Whites Five Times Richer Than Blacks In U.S

know1 wrote:

rebornFixer wrote:

know1 wrote:

Good article, but my question is did they say how they identified people as white or black? I've still never seen a quantifiable definition.

In most studies, race is self-identified (whatever you think you are). There is no more objective definition, in part because no one is actually "pure". Obama is "black", even though he's at least half Caucasian.

I know that's how it's defined and that's exactly why it's time to get rid of those labels. They mean nothing.

how some defines and identifies themselves means nothing....

that is crazy, that the best way to create the definition, better then me telling someone what they are

Byrnzie wrote:

acoustic guy wrote:

I bet my paycheck that some here think that this means most whites are racist, and/or because of this study, the ones who make more should give it to the black community.

I know you are out there so let it rip...

And why is this study done in the first place? What does it mean? That the Government should make changes to our lives so all people of different colors can make the same amount?
i don't like studies like this...Pointless. All it does is start shit.

I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?

Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.

catefrances wrote:

stereotypes do have some basis in fact. but its lazy fact imo.

That's not a bad way to put it ... Some and lazy being the operative words. Our brains are hardwired to form abstract generations, which we then use to make heuristic or "quick and dirty" rule of thumb decisions about other people. This process produces accurate judgments some of the time, but its also the source of ignorant judgments in the absense of evidence around an individual case. BOTH sides of the racism argument use these heuristic judgments, by the way ... Check out that thread about the Obama assassination example that the teacher in Arkansas used. My view is that the debate about race would be better served if people relied more on logical reasoning, and less on stereotypes and emotions.

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I take it you're white? I also take it that you don't give a shit about minorities being unfairly treated in your society?[/quote]
Well let me say this...I think their is a reason for Stereo Types. They were invented because many times they are cruel but somewhat true. Like it or not, yea yea I am a horrible person for saying that but they are what they are because someone noticed a pattern amongst individual races.
My race as well.[/quote]

Of course there's a reason for stereotypes. Stereotypes, Prejudices & bigotry make it easier for dim-witted people to cope with reality and justify discrimination and the oppression of others.

By the way, Hitler and his ilk also noticed patterns amongst individual races. You should check those studies out some time. And then when you're done stroking yourself off over them you can read about how those studies and others like them were all proven to be politically motivated and scientifically baseless and defunct.[/quote]
By the way....LOVE the Profile Pic! I wonder how many here know who that is.

Please explain how?

I saw this story in the news several days ago, I am really not that surprised about it. What I don't like is them coming at it only from the racial standing of blacks and whites. I feel one of the largest problems in our society is income inequality suffered by all races living in depressed areas or simply have very low incomes, even some people who make "decent" money. Our system is designed to reward those with more and simply sustain those with less.

Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.

Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.

lgoose420 wrote:

I saw this story in the news several days ago, I am really not that surprised about it. What I don't like is them coming at it only from the racial standing of blacks and whites. I feel one of the largest problems in our society is income inequality suffered by all races living in depressed areas or simply have very low incomes, even some people who make "decent" money. Our system is designed to reward those with more and simply sustain those with less.

Education is definitely a part of the equation and the fixes, they majority of the black population lives in inner cities with typically host the most troubled schools. Again it really doesn't need to be a black and white thing because whites, Latino, Asian at that same school are starting with the same disadvantage the blacks are given. So yes let’s fix education so every one is on an equal playing field when presented with the opportunity for higher education.

Another potential part of the solution is involvement as long as we remain silent, and content with treatment we receive, the divide will continue to grow. It will not stop till we are a two class system rich and poor. As long as we are a free market capitalist society these things will not change.

yes its not as if all this money is flowing freely among white people. its CERTAIN white people. You're no more likely to tap into that money as a white guy as any other race if you dont belong to that group that has the money.

like my little dirt stain hometown. its 100% white, the people are poor. they were born poor, live poor and will die poor except for a few exceptions. yet this study suggests that they somehow have it better than the blacks in the next town over because their race happens to be the same as the people who control the wealth. its a false assumption.

HeidiJam wrote:

Parenting is the Key here, Education system could be better but that is not the problem, Actually physically going to school is the problem. Taking your son out of school to get the new Jordan's that hit the street at footlocker does nothing but reinforce their thought process that school is not important and having nice clothes and cars are. Living off welfare and foodstamp will never teach anyone how to manage money and gain welth. When you have generations living off welfare and foodstamps then the problem continues to expand.
Spend time with your kids, know what they are doing and who their friends are, and continually to ask them questions about school and challenge their mind.

I have not yet had the fortune of children and thus try not to speak about parenting. However I remember my child hood and I know for a fact that my parents 9 times out of 10 where no where near by when I was at my worst, but in reality my mother never strayed far I had a cell phone only if I picked up her calls every time she called and that was often. Still I managed to go against the good I was taught from time to time using only my free will. So I think you point while useful to the overall argument, it is far from the solution! IMO