LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    cdp1223 wrote:
    rrivers wrote:

    Um, no, because the quote of mine you reference mentions part of the show I liked. It really amazes me how you people feel so threatened by anything negative said about this show. If you watched the show objectively and didn't try to justify it to yourselves you would see how far it has fallen or at the very least be able to take it when someone says they didn't like an episode.

    Uh oh....."you people" has been invoked. :?
    In all seriousness, I feel that this conversation is not going to go anywhere just because at the core of it is the fact that some people just watch TV/films differently. Some people enjoy criticizing the things they watch (this is not a dig at you) and enjoy debating the relative merits of a piece even if they speak harshly about it. Other people just enjoy being able to take in a TV show/film as it is presented and enjoy a bit of escapism, and while they discuss the piece, they may be more apt to simply enjoy it for what it is. This divide becomes particularly evident with cult TV shows such as Lost, or The Wire for example. People become fiercely devoted to the show and can become apologists of a sort, fighting for "their show" when dissenting opinions are raised. I think long running cult series just become a treasured piece of art for some people, it is just impossible to look at things objectively, as you say. In fact, you can't view anything objectively by nature of the media/viewing experience. So anyway, that's my two cents.
    I completely respect your right to voice complaints or fears about the direction of the show. But when it becomes antagonistic and contrarian, it makes it quite difficult to take.

    Very well put. I never meant to be antagonist, nor did I post negative things for attention or to be a troll. I simply stated problems I have with the show. Being the only person many weeks voicing displeasure with the show would make me contrarian to what everyone else thinks. You make good points about how people view media (i.e. being fiercely loyal). I've been on both sides where everything a show, band, etc. does I want to defend (as Pearl Jam fans I'm sure we all can relate to that!) and obviously, in this case, I find fault with Lost. I am glad many people here are still enjoying the show and, frankly, am jealous because I used to look forward to this show so much. Hopefully in the future we can debate the show more civilly. I will certainly make an effort on my end. Cheers! :D
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  • igotid_8
    igotid_8 Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 510
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Uh oh....."you people" has been invoked. :?
    In all seriousness, I feel that this conversation is not going to go anywhere just because at the core of it is the fact that some people just watch TV/films differently. Some people enjoy criticizing the things they watch (this is not a dig at you) and enjoy debating the relative merits of a piece even if they speak harshly about it. Other people just enjoy being able to take in a TV show/film as it is presented and enjoy a bit of escapism, and while they discuss the piece, they may be more apt to simply enjoy it for what it is. This divide becomes particularly evident with cult TV shows such as Lost, or The Wire for example. People become fiercely devoted to the show and can become apologists of a sort, fighting for "their show" when dissenting opinions are raised. I think long running cult series just become a treasured piece of art for some people, it is just impossible to look at things objectively, as you say. In fact, you can't view anything objectively by nature of the media/viewing experience. So anyway, that's my two cents.
    I completely respect your right to voice complaints or fears about the direction of the show. But when it becomes antagonistic and contrarian, it makes it quite difficult to take.

    Very well put. I now admire you.
    And I don't give a damn if someone doesn't like the show anymore. Nor do I care if they look down upon me for doing so.
    Lost has been batsh*t crazy from the pilot episode. Why would it change now?
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Glad my points were well received. I didn't intend to "speak for the group" but I felt like there was just a disconnect in viewing habits, rather than any actual animosity so I wanted to speak up.
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,893
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!
    At least not until next Tuesday night when half of us are happy Kate paraded around jail in a thong in a sideways flash and the other half are pissed cause Kate had dialogue.





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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Poncier wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!
    At least not until next Tuesday night when half of us are happy Kate paraded around jail in a thong in a sideways flash and the other half are pissed cause Kate had dialogue.





    :mrgreen:
    HA!!!
    Man....I hope she bites it. Big Time!
    (But not before that jail thong scene you mention up yonder.... :think: :shock:
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Glad my points were well received. I didn't intend to "speak for the group" but I felt like there was just a disconnect in viewing habits, rather than any actual animosity so I wanted to speak up.
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!

    To quote Cartman, "You guys are my best friends!"

    Great job mediating, cdp1223!!!!
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  • jervin007
    jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Poncier wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!
    At least not until next Tuesday night when half of us are happy Kate paraded around jail in a thong in a sideways flash and the other half are pissed cause Kate had dialogue.





    :mrgreen:

    Haha. When are they going to kill Kate off anyway! After all, she isn't even a candidate!

    Bracing myself for the attack. :-)
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    rrivers wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Glad my points were well received. I didn't intend to "speak for the group" but I felt like there was just a disconnect in viewing habits, rather than any actual animosity so I wanted to speak up.
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!

    To quote Cartman, "You guys are my best friends!"

    Great job mediating, cdp1223!!!!
    Haha....deep inside this thick skull of mine there is a little pocket of tact and good will. :mrgreen:
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    cdp1223 wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Glad my points were well received. I didn't intend to "speak for the group" but I felt like there was just a disconnect in viewing habits, rather than any actual animosity so I wanted to speak up.
    Man, I've got the warm n fuzzies for you guys now. :lol: Let's never fight again!

    To quote Cartman, "You guys are my best friends!"

    Great job mediating, cdp1223!!!!
    Haha....deep inside this thick skull of mine there is a little pocket of tact and good will. :mrgreen:
    I'm glad this thread has taken a friendly turn. :D

    I too have found things I didn't like this season and it hasn't often been the source of amazement that it was the first 2 seasons. I think I may also have mentioned that in seasons 4 & 5, I went through long stretches of being very frustrated with Lost. What's been surprising to me is that when I've gone back and watched some of those episodes long after the fact, they have a lot more to offer than I thought at the time I originally saw them. My perspective has changed because of what I've seen since then and I can see so much better where the writers were going with it. Doesn't mean I LOVE all those older episodes, just that I have renewed appreciation for how well thought out this show has been, for the most part.

    I'm looking forward, when it's all over, to going back to the beginning and watching it all.
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    as i post before ill be sad when this finnish,i watching now the last night episode of flashforward,,its great show
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  • MK1980
    MK1980 Nottingham, UK Posts: 291
    Go Desmond!!! A little bit of an eye for an eye - running over Locke after 'Locke' had pushed him down a well.
    Seems to me everyone in the parellel life is getting everything they ever wanted, yet they're still not completely happy...the island chooses who the island chooses ;)
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    TONIGHT!!!!

    The trailer for this one was my favorite ever...
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Black Diamond wrote:
    TONIGHT!!!!

    The trailer for this one was my favorite ever...

    Hopefully it is a good one- I think that tonights epsidoe is about Jack again. Maybe with Locke at the Hospital. The preview was crazy.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Black Diamond wrote:
    TONIGHT!!!!

    The trailer for this one was my favorite ever...
    Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing?

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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    rrivers wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    rrivers wrote:

    After seeing the show decline every week and, at this point, actually dreading watching the show this is somewhat true. That being said, if the show was actually engaging and interesting and not the same thing every week (Look! Sawyer's a good guy! Desmond and Widmore are friends! Jack's a good father! Hurley's lucky! We get it: things are different in the "sideways world".) I would be more than willing to enjoy it.


    or you'd be on here complaining that they should show more of what it was like for other major characters in the 'sideways world' ;)

    Um, no, because the quote of mine you reference mentions part of the show I liked. It really amazes me how you people feel so threatened by anything negative said about this show. If you watched the show objectively and didn't try to justify it to yourselves you would see how far it has fallen or at the very least be able to take it when someone says they didn't like an episode.


    who here is threatened by it?? you're a funny guy :lol::lol::lol:

    you also like to generalize maybe a wee too much?
    don't compete; coexist

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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    TONIGHT!!!!

    The trailer for this one was my favorite ever...
    Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing?

    83040e193c1f61ef5883052b3c08d344.jpg
    :shock: :shock:
    No pictures of the insects please...
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  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    who here is threatened by it?? you're a funny guy :lol::lol::lol:

    you also like to generalize maybe a wee too much?
    It's ok! We've all kissed and made up! Go back a few pages for the gushy feelings. :roll: :mrgreen:
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    cdp1223 wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    TONIGHT!!!!

    The trailer for this one was my favorite ever...
    Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a blowing?

    83040e193c1f61ef5883052b3c08d344.jpg
    BTW, is that Sean Connery in the upper left :lol:
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Pepe Silvia wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Pepe Silvia wrote:


    or you'd be on here complaining that they should show more of what it was like for other major characters in the 'sideways world' ;)

    Um, no, because the quote of mine you reference mentions part of the show I liked. It really amazes me how you people feel so threatened by anything negative said about this show. If you watched the show objectively and didn't try to justify it to yourselves you would see how far it has fallen or at the very least be able to take it when someone says they didn't like an episode.


    who here is threatened by it?? you're a funny guy :lol::lol::lol:

    you also like to generalize maybe a wee too much?

    Why are you still fighting with me? Everyone made up. :D Cheers!
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    rrivers wrote:

    Why are you still fighting with me? Everyone made up. :D Cheers!


    i wasn't trying to fight with you and i posted that before reading the rest of the thread ;)
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

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    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'

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