Conclusion: Nickelback blow!...are not inspiring young bands
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LikeAnOcean wrote:Why are you so concerned with what is making them happy?
I'm not really sure where you're getting this from? Could careless what makes them happy, I was simply saying that they have no clue what else is out there besides Top 40 music2006: Albany
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OK, that I can understand. Exposure.. unfortunately, cheaper catchy stuff catches on better becuase people have short attention spans. Most people don't like to be challenged by music and even you and I have a limit of how much we want to be challenged.Drop1The0Leash wrote:LikeAnOcean wrote:Why are you so concerned with what is making them happy?
I'm not really sure where you're getting this from? Could careless what makes them happy, I was simply saying that they have no clue what else is out there besides Top 40 music
To me, most, not all, but most pop music is just god awful boring. I still need something relatively familiar, but with just enough of an edge to it that it can still paint a new imaginary landscape for me.Post edited by LikeAnOcean on0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:
OK, that I can understand. Exposure.. unfortunately, cheaper catchy stuff catches on better becuase people have short attention spans.Drop1The0Leash wrote:LikeAnOcean wrote:Why are you so concerned with what is making them happy?
I'm not really sure where you're getting this from? Could careless what makes them happy, I was simply saying that they have no clue what else is out there besides Top 40 music
I thought the word ignorant would have gotten my point across which by definition means lacking in knowledge; unlearned. But yes that goddamn pop music is catchy and hooks those little teen bastards in. Thats the way it rolls ma dude2006: Albany
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I think its ignorant to assume they'll all learn something off the music we like. I'm sure you could find a lot who would open their minds to a new musical spectrum if exposed, but still many would not make the connection.Drop1The0Leash wrote:
I thought the word ignorant would have gotten my point across which by definition means lacking in knowledge; unlearned. But yes that goddamn pop music is catchy and hooks those little teen bastards in. Thats the way it rolls ma dude0 -
Honestly, who gives a shit about how many people like Nickelback. I never understood why posts like this pop up all the time. Does it make you guys feel good calling down Nickelback fans? Man, there are a lot of elitist pricks on this board.
Oh, and for the record, I don't like Nickelback.0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:
I think its ignorant to assume they'll all learn something off the music we like. I'm sure you could find a lot who would open their minds to a new musical spectrum if exposed, but still many would not make the connection.Drop1The0Leash wrote:
I thought the word ignorant would have gotten my point across which by definition means lacking in knowledge; unlearned. But yes that goddamn pop music is catchy and hooks those little teen bastards in. Thats the way it rolls ma dude
I'm not saying everyone should like the music I like. There is so much amazing music out there and you gotta explore and find out what fits you and doesnt fit you. I don't like all music but explored and found what I liked and disliked. You cant let top 40 radio and TV be you're main source for what kinda music is out there.2006: Albany
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donovanfromwpg wrote:Honestly, who gives a shit about how many people like Nickelback. I never understood why posts like this pop up all the time. Does it make you guys feel good calling down Nickelback fans? Man, there are a lot of elitist pricks on this board.
Oh, and for the record, I don't like Nickelback.
Yes that is exactly what we are trying to do, talk down to the thousands of Nickleback fans that come and read the Pearl Jam forum so we can feel good about our elitist selves :roll:2006: Albany
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Johnny Sitar wrote:Niko80 wrote:vedpunk wrote:bootlegger10 - Just because most people have no taste in music, doesn't make it right. Pearl Jam appeals to a higher class of music fan. Pearl Jam never meant to make music for the sole purpose of selling records to the most people. They make music that has integrity and artistic achievement.
I was waiting for this agruement to come, that pj's music appeals to 'smarter people'. The thought of us belonging to a higher class of music lovers is a stupid and selfish arguement. I put it in the same lame category as the people who sits on the first rows at shows waiting for rare b-sides to wake up. This is a 'hollier than thou' attitude and it belongs nowhere. Surely not all nickleback fans are idiots for listening to them. Come on..
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It's still all relative.Drop1The0Leash wrote:LikeAnOcean wrote:
I think its ignorant to assume they'll all learn something off the music we like. I'm sure you could find a lot who would open their minds to a new musical spectrum if exposed, but still many would not make the connection.Drop1The0Leash wrote:
I thought the word ignorant would have gotten my point across which by definition means lacking in knowledge; unlearned. But yes that goddamn pop music is catchy and hooks those little teen bastards in. Thats the way it rolls ma dude
I'm not saying everyone should like the music I like. There is so much amazing music out there and you gotta explore and find out what fits you and doesnt fit you. I don't like all music but explored and found what I liked and disliked. You cant let top 40 radio and TV be you're main source for what kinda music is out there.
Last night while hanging out with my buddy's younger buddy, he thought I was so musically informed because I knew who a handful of popular 70s rock bands were.. I mean, he got excited when I recognized Boston.. I was tempted to start quizzing him on a handful of Indie artists I love.. It's weird because of all my friends, I'm the only person who listens to Indie and unpopular music. I've been finding them on my own thanks to the internet and streaming independant radio stations. They're all stuck replaying and loving the same 90s alternative radio hits, which I got tired of years ago.0 -
I can't believe so many people waste so much time even thinking about something like this...who f#$%ng cares?!?!?!?
music, the best thing on earth, goes down to one simple matter: you like it or you don't. period. all the rest of anyone's thoughts or arguments are born from there (realted to harmony, inspiration, energy, romance, activism...whatever...).
and when it comes down to that (liking something or not), you just don't go arround classifying people for their musical taste...that's just as disgusting as racism. Enjoy what you like and let the others do the same.
Pearl Jam is my favourite band by far...but I mean, really by far, in every sense. And I like Nickelback too. Yeah, they make some catchy, more "commercial type" tunes, but I still like their riffs and enjoy listening to them...so what? Do I have to feel awkward because of that????
gimme a break...just let anyone listen to whatever they like...and if you don't like something in particular, you're all free souls, you just can choose not to listen to it, and that's it...big deal!
I'm sure that Ed and the rest of the guys think pretty much this way...
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larabi74 wrote:I can't believe so many people waste so much time even thinking about something like this...who f#$%ng cares?!?!?!?
music, the best thing on earth, goes down to one simple matter: you like it or you don't. period. all the rest of anyone's thoughts or arguments are born from there (realted to harmony, inspiration, energy, romance, activism...whatever...).
and when it comes down to that (liking something or not), you just don't go arround classifying people for their musical taste...that's just as disgusting as racism. Enjoy what you like and let the others do the same.
Pearl Jam is my favourite band by far...but I mean, really by far, in every sense. And I like Nickelback too. Yeah, they make some catchy, more "commercial type" tunes, but I still like their riffs and enjoy listening to them...so what? Do I have to feel awkward because of that????
gimme a break...just let anyone listen to whatever they like...and if you don't like something in particular, you're all free souls, you just can choose not to listen to it, and that's it...big deal!
I'm sure that Ed and the rest of the guys think pretty much this way...
peace to all!
You just wasted a lot of time writing this.........2006: Albany
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vedpunk wrote:As Ron Burgandy once said, "agree to disagree".
When in Rome...
and of course my previous comment on NIckelback is my opinion alone.0 -
I quite enjoy looking at http://www.allmusic.com discography on Nickelbacks load of crap. Then go to their PJ ratings.
It can be difficult to get both critical and huge commercial success, bands like PJ and Radiohead have the critical side while like Creed, Nickelbank have no critical value whatsoever with bland slick rubbish.
Reminds me of the very good indie film that very few will ever see while the awful blockbusters pack them in.Post edited by elderman on0 -
I was at best buy testing out an iPod dock, using my iPod. I was playing pearl jam, pretty loudly in fact. This kid who works at best buy, maybe age 17-18 comes over and says, "Smashing Pumpkins?" I said, no this is pearl jam.
He goes, "oh, never heard this song before."
I was playing Betterman.
Enjoy your day, everyone.Turn this anger into
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Vedd Hedd wrote:I was at best buy testing out an iPod dock, using my iPod. I was playing pearl jam, pretty loudly in fact. This kid who works at best buy, maybe age 17-18 comes over and says, "Smashing Pumpkins?" I said, no this is pearl jam.
He goes, "oh, never heard this song before."
I was playing Betterman.
Enjoy your day, everyone.
How can you even think betterman sounds anything like Smashing Pumpkins? Thats just awful 2006: Albany
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Pearl Jam vs Nickelback (the drama continues!)
dont ever put Nickelback in the same sentence as Pearl Jam.0 -
hopethatuchoke wrote:vedpunk wrote:Hopethatuchoke.......You are 100% incorrect.....again.
NickelBack are only relevant in the "general dumb, soccer mom, pop loving public" because they sell more albums as a POP GROUP. This doesn't mean that decent up and coming ROCK bands look up to them for inspiration. NickelBack will be forgotten in 20 years and will be remembered as just a skidmark on the face of rock music. Pearl Jam have already reached LEGENDARY status and will be inducted in the Rock HOF.
Nah, I am correct. Just check out the numerous people agreeing with me. Sometimes the truth hurts.
And The Beatles, Stones, Zep, and The Who are legendary. Pearl jam are just a great band who aren't legendary to the average person outside this message board. Their biggest mistake was sabotaging their career in the mid-90's. But even if they didn't do that, how many bands anymore hit the top and stay there for a prolonged period? The odds are so against that happening.
What disgusts me about Nickelback is, I assumed they would come and go like another Limp Bizkit but here we are TEN YEARS after How You Remind Me Came out and they are still selling millions of albums and selling out tours. They have had a longer period of world fame than pearl jam has. Yuck!
Hopethatyouchoke is 100% right here. Young bands, and up and coming rock musicians are mostly inspired by what is presented to them via the radio, internet, ect. At this time in music history, they are much more likely to be exposed to nickelback then they are pj. Is this wrong, sad and depressing? Yes. But its true. Just like when I was 13 and heard Alive on the radio i was inspired. PJ had their time in the limelight, but that has past. Now a days you may hear some old pj songs, maybe a few spins of the new stuff, but radio is over saturated with shit like nickelback.
To me (us) PJ is the best band to ever play. But your average 13-18 year old doesn't think this.
Hopethatyouchoke never said nickelback was better than pj.Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...0 -
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i dont know of any bands that would list Nickelback as an influence. plus, people who listen to rock dont listen to Nickelback. They are really no different than Avril Lavigne. they are for people who dont like rock music, but like to pretend they do from time to time. a typical Nickelback fan is most likely a Kenny Chesney fan, too.Gmoney wrote:hopethatuchoke wrote:vedpunk wrote:Hopethatuchoke.......You are 100% incorrect.....again.
NickelBack are only relevant in the "general dumb, soccer mom, pop loving public" because they sell more albums as a POP GROUP. This doesn't mean that decent up and coming ROCK bands look up to them for inspiration. NickelBack will be forgotten in 20 years and will be remembered as just a skidmark on the face of rock music. Pearl Jam have already reached LEGENDARY status and will be inducted in the Rock HOF.
Nah, I am correct. Just check out the numerous people agreeing with me. Sometimes the truth hurts.
And The Beatles, Stones, Zep, and The Who are legendary. Pearl jam are just a great band who aren't legendary to the average person outside this message board. Their biggest mistake was sabotaging their career in the mid-90's. But even if they didn't do that, how many bands anymore hit the top and stay there for a prolonged period? The odds are so against that happening.
What disgusts me about Nickelback is, I assumed they would come and go like another Limp Bizkit but here we are TEN YEARS after How You Remind Me Came out and they are still selling millions of albums and selling out tours. They have had a longer period of world fame than pearl jam has. Yuck!
Hopethatyouchoke is 100% right here. Young bands, and up and coming rock musicians are mostly inspired by what is presented to them via the radio, internet, ect.
will there be another Nickelback in the future? sure. but there always has been. but its not like the rock scene is gonna start sounding like them because they are popular, any more than they would try to sound like Miley Cyrus or Britney Spears.Post edited by LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun on0 -
A Karaoke show and a dancing show are two of the top rated TV shows so it doesn't surprise me that Nickleback is kicking PJ's ass in popularity.
Fun Fact: Matt Cameron played drums on a single by Nickleback's lead singer for the first Spiderman movie.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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