Conclusion: Nickelback blow!...are not inspiring young bands

helplessdancer

Newch91 wrote:

That's why most bands are just terrible and that's why rock music was almost dead, until Jack White came on the music scene and saved it. Pearl Jam and Jack White are keeping rock alive, along with Dave Grohl.

Sadly, music today is not about the music anymore. Artists just want to be rich and famous and they're all about the singles. Where the fuck is music that means something?! Where are the fucking albums?! Where's artwork that you can stare at for hours?! Thank God for PJ, Jack White, Radiohead, and Dave Grohl. They know how to make albums.

jack white is not the only guy who's saving rock. there are tons of him around, just they havent been heard by the masses yet.

and the music that really means something is in your local big city playing every single saturday night

as far as nickleback goes live and let live i heard miley tickets were harder to get on her last tour

Given to...

SSS81 wrote:

When Pearl Jam came tp Salt Lake City for the first time they didn't even sell out the E-Center (a medium sized arena). I talked to one of the ushers and found out that the week before they sold out for some emo-crap-band...I can't even remember the name anymore. Sad.

Wasnt the first time they have been to SLC. You are probably just too young and uninformed. Do your homework grasshopper.

Jo

Last November I was at the Airport, heading out for a 4 hr flight to the PJ concert in SYDNEY, and I was surrounded by Nickle Back Tee-shirts...............................really?

I was so relieved to see someone on the plane wearing his Pearl Jam wrist band from the concert 7 days earlier in Perth,........
really? Nickleback?

vedpunk

Hopethatuchoke.......You are 100% incorrect.....again.

NickelBack are only relevant in the "general dumb, soccer mom, pop loving public" because they sell more albums as a POP GROUP. This doesn't mean that decent up and coming ROCK bands look up to them for inspiration. NickelBack will be forgotten in 20 years and will be remembered as just a skidmark on the face of rock music. Pearl Jam have already reached LEGENDARY status and will be inducted in the Rock HOF.

bootlegger10

Millions of people like Nickleback. You guys get your army of a thousand and battle Nickleback's army of a million. I'd say Nickleback fans have a much stronger argument that PJ's music sucks than the other way around. Head to head more people will like Nickleback's music. No contest. Put the average fan in a room and have them listen to Backspacer and then listen to Nickleback and they'll choose Nickleback. That is why radio station's play them more than Pearl Jam. You think radio station's don't play Pearl Jam because they'd get a lot of people listening to the station? They don't play Pearl Jam because the average music fan doesn't care about Pearl Jam and don't want to have to listen to a record 20 times before they "get it".

Millions of people like Nickleback. That means they are doing something right.

vedpunk

bootlegger10 - Just because most people have no taste in music, doesn't make it right. Pearl Jam appeals to a higher class of music fan. Pearl Jam never meant to make music for the sole purpose of selling records to the most people. They make music that has integrity and artistic achievement.

i_lov_it

Listening to the LEAD singer of NICKELBACK.....is JUST Plain.......Well ""PAINFUL""...it's enough to 'Strip' Paint...hahaha

DewieCox

Nickelback are more popular and more influential b/c of it. PJ's music easily has more of an impact on the people that get "it".

Alotta bands that name PJ as an influence sound like Nickelback, strangely.

I don't think PJ's influence will ever be really obvious musically b/c their music is so pretty derivative of their influences.

release00

They are the worst band in America, probably the whole world. I don't know what I would do if I came. Face to face with any of them. Probably point and laugh

hopethatuchoke

vedpunk wrote:

Hopethatuchoke.......You are 100% incorrect.....again.

NickelBack are only relevant in the "general dumb, soccer mom, pop loving public" because they sell more albums as a POP GROUP. This doesn't mean that decent up and coming ROCK bands look up to them for inspiration. NickelBack will be forgotten in 20 years and will be remembered as just a skidmark on the face of rock music. Pearl Jam have already reached LEGENDARY status and will be inducted in the Rock HOF.

Nah, I am correct. Just check out the numerous people agreeing with me. Sometimes the truth hurts.

And The Beatles, Stones, Zep, and The Who are legendary. Pearl jam are just a great band who aren't legendary to the average person outside this message board. Their biggest mistake was sabotaging their career in the mid-90's. But even if they didn't do that, how many bands anymore hit the top and stay there for a prolonged period? The odds are so against that happening.

What disgusts me about Nickelback is, I assumed they would come and go like another Limp Bizkit but here we are TEN YEARS after How You Remind Me Came out and they are still selling millions of albums and selling out tours. They have had a longer period of world fame than pearl jam has. Yuck!

robbyblaylock

nickelback is a dime-a-dozen band that is so force-fed to top 40 stations that people will flock to them. they are going to be the next generations bon-jovi, in which mostly middle aged, think they are their daughter type moms are going to still go see to feel young again. they are your typical w.t. divorce rock band.

unfortunately, the machine behind them is alot bigger and richer than pearl jam.

made us stars

I love Pearl Jam, and love being a part of what seems to be a more intellectual and enlightened fan base.

But to everyone else, Nickelback's music is a hell of a lot more accessible (not to say that PJ's can't be).

Inhidingbert

I don't see many bands covering Nickelback songs or many legends of rock joining Nickelback on stage for songs. One of my favorite upcoming rock bands from the past year is The Gaslight Anthem, and they do a cover of "State of Love and Trust" which is pretty awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezdm300j7Ew

The_Giant_Midget

there isnt one person in my school that i know enjoys nickelback. ive showed my friends pearl jam and they seemed to get "it" rather quick and are actually coming msg 2. so im not sure who these fans are but theyre definitely not high school kids. if you listen to nickelback you'd basically get made fun of.

pjheasds8

I am just as much a part of the anti-N-back camp....can't believe I do have a smidge of respect for them for putting out that video. "If Everyone Cared". I'm sure they didn't "put it out", but I caught it one time at a bar on a big tv and it moved me. no way would i post the youtube link, but this thread made me watch it again, and it is just plain nice.

Still know that Pearl Jam is light years ahead of N-back in artistry and conviction.

captainwisejam

Doesn't half the message board shit their pants when Pearl Jam does something remotely commercial like having Target release their record or maybe playing a V.I.P show or releasing a ballad as their second single?

It's not like they're not trying, but I'm afraid too much time has passed on them.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

bootlegger10 wrote:

Millions of people like Nickleback. You guys get your army of a thousand and battle Nickleback's army of a million. I'd say Nickleback fans have a much stronger argument that PJ's music sucks than the other way around. Head to head more people will like Nickleback's music. No contest. Put the average fan in a room and have them listen to Backspacer and then listen to Nickleback and they'll choose Nickleback. That is why radio station's play them more than Pearl Jam. You think radio station's don't play Pearl Jam because they'd get a lot of people listening to the station? They don't play Pearl Jam because the average music fan doesn't care about Pearl Jam and don't want to have to listen to a record 20 times before they "get it".

Millions of people like Nickleback. That means they are doing something right.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. So you a big fan of Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne, Lady Gaga, The Black Eyed Peas, Blink 182, etc etc? That is the most ridiculous statement ever.

Pandering to the masses is sinking yourself to the lowest common denominator. And that's what Nickelback is.

Radio play does NOT equal quality.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

vedpunk wrote:

I was just sitting at home bored on a Sunday night and I ventured onto the Tickemaster website. I decided to check out Nickelback demand and available tickets in the same cities that Pearl Jam is playing. Nickelback has sold out almost all of the same cities. WTF!

THIS IS A SAD DAY IN MUSIC!!!!

Is the midwest full of mindless music enthusiasts? Do they not understand good music?

it's not a sad day in music. This is what I've come to understand over the years. Not everyone is going to like what you like, or what you think is quality music. Pearl Jam is, to me, and I'm guessing to you, a great band. THE band. But it doesn't bother me anymore (it used to) that bands like Nickelback outsell them. That's a fact of life. It's simple: people who aren't passionate about the MUSIC like Nickelback. People who are passionate about the next big thing, the teenage nasty euphimism songs, being told what is good and what they should like, who's playing the MTV Video awards, and who's on the soundtrack to the next big vampire movie, those are the Nickelback fans.

Most quality acts don't sell out arenas. By no means am I an indie snob. Hardly. But most of my favourite acts play theatres or smaller. I go to some arena shows still, but fanbase size means nothing.

Yes, Chad Kroeger is rich and famous, but remember, so was Vanilla Ice.

Niko80

vedpunk wrote:

bootlegger10 - Just because most people have no taste in music, doesn't make it right. Pearl Jam appeals to a higher class of music fan. Pearl Jam never meant to make music for the sole purpose of selling records to the most people. They make music that has integrity and artistic achievement.

I was waiting for this agruement to come, that pj's music appeals to 'smarter people'. The thought of us belonging to a higher class of music lovers is a stupid and selfish arguement. I put it in the same lame category as the people who sits on the first rows at shows waiting for rare b-sides to wake up. This is a 'hollier than thou' attitude and it belongs nowhere. Surely not all nickleback fans are idiots for listening to them. Come on..

Gary Carter

Niko80 wrote:

vedpunk wrote:

bootlegger10 - Just because most people have no taste in music, doesn't make it right. Pearl Jam appeals to a higher class of music fan. Pearl Jam never meant to make music for the sole purpose of selling records to the most people. They make music that has integrity and artistic achievement.

I was waiting for this agruement to come, that pj's music appeals to 'smarter people'. The thought of us belonging to a higher class of music lovers is a stupid and selfish arguement. I put it in the same lame category as the people who sits on the first rows at shows waiting for rare b-sides to wake up. This is a 'hollier than thou' attitude and it belongs nowhere. Surely not all nickleback fans are idiots for listening to them. Come on..

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