***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

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  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    That said, I don't think they can beat the Yankees, Boston or Tampa in a 7 game series.

    Can too.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited April 2010
    The Fixer wrote:
    Nothing is fucked here. And I'm not gonna lie, the Braves are nearly hitting wayyy overrated level the way everyones pushing them. Heyward's going to be a stud, but they don't have enough of a bullpen, too many what-if's with their rotation, and that lineup still doesn't impress me till it does something. Writers and the such are just trying to find something - anything - to make the NL East look competitive. I still like the Marlins more too.

    Everything in April works in the Phils favor - even with Blanton out - except for a lot of road games. Luckily, they're against no one good for the most part.

    the braves are legit. their rotation is scary and their bullpen is pretty solid. wagner, saito, medlen...you could make the argument that those 3 are all better than anyone in the phils pen. The braves main question mark is gonna be can they keep enough core guys healthy. that's a big if.

    the phils are still the favorites to take the division, but don't sleep on atlanta.

    Hudson AND Jurrjens have been ridiculously injury proned. And Lowe was a TOTAL BUST last year. Wagner and Saito - two more that you don't know what you're going to get out of them over an entire season. Too many what-if's to be overrating them.

    um, jurrjens has never had an injury (don't give me the ST crap, that doesn't count). hudson has averaged 226 innings per year over his 11 year career. I don't think either of them are injury prone.

    ok, I'm done...I'm starting to sound like a braves fan. I'm just saying the braves will get the wild card and give the phils a run for their money this year. the NL is so bad the phils should still cruise into the playoffs
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Stop stressing, the Phillies are fine and should come out of the NL easily, they have had a lot of breaks go their way the last 2 years but they are so much better than the rest of the NL.

    That said, I don't think they can beat the Yankees, Boston or Tampa in a 7 game series. Tampa scares the hell out of me this year.

    no one cares about the AL in this thread. go away
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    That said, I don't think they can beat the Yankees, Boston or Tampa in a 7 game series.

    Can too.

    haha, fair enough. You guys have an exciting season ahead of you. I would imagine we are still talking at the end of October.

    I would be worried about the Phillies pitching if I were you and as a Yankees fan I am worried about age catching up to a few players at the same time. I do think we are in the same place at the end of October, minus some fucking awesome shows at the Spectrum.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the braves are legit. their rotation is scary and their bullpen is pretty solid. wagner, saito, medlen...you could make the argument that those 3 are all better than anyone in the phils pen. The braves main question mark is gonna be can they keep enough core guys healthy. that's a big if.

    the phils are still the favorites to take the division, but don't sleep on atlanta.

    Hudson AND Jurrjens have been ridiculously injury proned. And Lowe was a TOTAL BUST last year. Wagner and Saito - two more that you don't know what you're going to get out of them over an entire season. Too many what-if's to be overrating them.

    um, jurrjens has never had an injury and hudson has averaged 226 innings per year over his 11 year career. neither of them are injury prone.

    ok, I'm done...I'm starting to sound like a braves fan. I'm just saying the braves will get the wild card and give the phils a run for their money this year. the NL is so bad the phils should still cruise into the playoffs

    So I guess you don't recall Jurrjens shoulder problems last year, or the ones he had to work out of this offseason? Or the multiple DL stints by Hudson...just sayin...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Stop stressing, the Phillies are fine and should come out of the NL easily, they have had a lot of breaks go their way the last 2 years but they are so much better than the rest of the NL.

    That said, I don't think they can beat the Yankees, Boston or Tampa in a 7 game series. Tampa scares the hell out of me this year.

    no one cares about the AL in this thread. go away


    Fair enough, although cant fans of the best two teams in baseball talk a little shit from time to time? Point is, Phillies don't have the pitching to match up with any of these teams in my opnion, unless you had kept Lee........
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    That said, I don't think they can beat the Yankees, Boston or Tampa in a 7 game series.

    Can too.

    haha, fair enough. You guys have an exciting season ahead of you. I would imagine we are still talking at the end of October.

    I would be worried about the Phillies pitching if I were you and as a Yankees fan I am worried about age catching up to a few players at the same time. I do think we are in the same place at the end of October, minus some fucking awesome shows at the Spectrum.

    Let's play 162 and then see where we're at....

    Pitching doesn't scare me too much...maybe a little at the back of the rotation without the needed security blankets....but I think the back of the bullpen is vastly improved, granted Lidge needs to show up somewhere between his '08 & '09 forms - preferably closer to '08. That's just another astute observation I publish in "Duh Magazine."
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Hudson AND Jurrjens have been ridiculously injury proned. And Lowe was a TOTAL BUST last year. Wagner and Saito - two more that you don't know what you're going to get out of them over an entire season. Too many what-if's to be overrating them.[/quote]

    um, jurrjens has never had an injury and hudson has averaged 226 innings per year over his 11 year career. neither of them are injury prone.

    ok, I'm done...I'm starting to sound like a braves fan. I'm just saying the braves will get the wild card and give the phils a run for their money this year. the NL is so bad the phils should still cruise into the playoffs[/quote]

    So I guess you don't recall Jurrjens shoulder problems last year, or the ones he had to work out of this offseason? Or the multiple DL stints by Hudson...just sayin...[/quote]

    jurrjens has started 31 and 34 games respectively the last 2 years. the ST shit was precautionary. he isn't an injury concern and he always pitches lights out vs the phils.

    hudson may be breaking down a little...he had major arm surgery in 2008 that effected his IP totals for 08-09.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Let's play 162 and then see where we're at....

    Pitching doesn't scare me too much...maybe a little at the back of the rotation without the needed security blankets....but I think the back of the bullpen is vastly improved, granted Lidge needs to show up somewhere between his '08 & '09 forms - preferably closer to '08. That's just another astute observation I publish in "Duh Magazine."

    I hear you, that is why they play 162 games in 180 days. I would be worried about Lidge and his velocity but no need to get into that now. Hamels really is the key to the Phllies success and I don't know if I would want to put my season on the arms of such a, well you can fill in the blank. If Cole is fine, they have a shot, if not, no shot.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Fair enough, although cant fans of the best two teams in baseball talk a little shit from time to time? Point is, Phillies don't have the pitching to match up with any of these teams in my opnion, unless you had kept Lee........[/quote]

    The phils bullpen is loaded with question marks and they are a SP injury away to being in big trouble (I'm not worried about blanton, DLing him is absolutely the right move). They have zero high level pitching prospects to trade or bring up if someone goes down.

    It's a phillies thread...we will worry about the yanks if both teams get back to the WS. Go play in the yankees thread
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.

    My girlfriend is on that trip, probably should not have said that, haha.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.

    I sold my tix for tomorrow night. I didn't get much money for them, but I have no desire to go watch brian bocock and andy tracy.

    This will be the last weekend without baseball until November. That is money
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    The Fixer wrote:

    It's a phillies thread...we will worry about the yanks if both teams get back to the WS. Go play in the yankees thread

    No Yankees fans on the board right now to bullshit with and I love talking baseball.
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.

    My girlfriend is on that trip, probably should not have said that, haha.

    Sweet. I'll ask around for the chick with the psycho pearl jam fan boyfriend. Then hit on her. :thumbup:

    Hey, I welcome this Yankee douche in here any time. At least he lives in Philly, and he's good people.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    It's a phillies thread...we will worry about the yanks if both teams get back to the WS. Go play in the yankees thread

    No Yankees fans on the board right now to bullshit with and I love talking baseball.

    I love baseball too...I think it is far and away the best sport. I've been fiending for the season to start ever since victorino made the last out of the WS. I've got tickets to over 35 phillies home games this year and I usually hit a few road games each year...I've seen them play in pitts, balt, miami, chicago, boston, ny (citi field), and LA (dodger stadium). I fucking love it

    Not trying to be a dick, but I'm sick of hearing shit from yankee fans. most of my family is from NY. fuckers have been giving me an earfull for the last 5 months.

    I agree with you that tampa is gonna have a good year. Upton bounces back and has a huge year...Bossman Jr could go 40-40
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,531
    The Fixer wrote:
    I sold my tix for tomorrow night. I didn't get much money for them, but I have no desire to go watch brian bocock and andy tracy.

    This will be the last weekend without baseball until November. That is money

    I DO have a desire to be at the ballpark on a sunny day looking at girls in powder blue. :mrgreen:
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.

    My girlfriend is on that trip, probably should not have said that, haha.

    Sweet. I'll ask around for the chick with the psycho pearl jam fan boyfriend. Then hit on her. :thumbup:

    Hey, I welcome this Yankee douche in here any time. At least he lives in Philly, and he's good people.

    I apologize if I was being a douche. I'm sensitive to this yankee bullshit.

    any of you guys hitting the MSG shows? just booked my hotel and train today
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    I sold my tix for tomorrow night. I didn't get much money for them, but I have no desire to go watch brian bocock and andy tracy.

    This will be the last weekend without baseball until November. That is money

    I DO have a desire to be at the ballpark on a sunny day looking at girls in powder blue. :mrgreen:

    touche
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,026
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Either way - it's going to be FUCKING 80 DEGREES ON SATURDAY. And I don't care that it's an exhibition game. It's a part of my Sunday package(which is a fucking scam), and what else better to do on a beeeeyoooteeefull Saturday????

    Oh, and 80 on Monday in DC. Our group(Quimby's gig) will be pulling into the parking lot 24 buses strong! This weekend is looking to be fucking phenomenal.

    My girlfriend is on that trip, probably should not have said that, haha.

    Sweet. I'll ask around for the chick with the psycho pearl jam fan boyfriend. Then hit on her. :thumbup:

    Hey, I welcome this Yankee douche in here any time. At least he lives in Philly, and he's good people.

    Haha, fair enough. She digs guys that are into pearl jam. Good luck, haha.
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