No Texas shows again, why?!!!

Flagg wrote:

SolarWorld wrote:

So let me get this straight guys... Pearl Jam should detour off their planned Tout and play Texas, at a loss, just to make some whinny fans on a message board happy? Is that it?

Look dude, sorry. But you have no clue what their profit and loss system is. You think you do, but you don't. A loss? Let's see some figures. Let's see them!! I am sick of people on here that think they know everything about how a band operates their finances just because they are fans.

Detour?? You realize Houston is right down the road from NO right? Going from NO to KC and St. Louis and Coumbia is a bigger detour.

Detour huh? What a fucking joke.

Oh and another thing. Everyone ignores they fact that EVERY BAND IN THE WORLD can manage it but poor, broke, destitute Pearl Jam has to pinch pennies I guess.

After all they have families!

Gotta agree with you there. Houston is the fourth, largest city in the US, with one of the biggest outdoor bowls in all of the Ticketmaster/Live Nation Portfolio. There would be no loss in coming here. And they could play an outdoor show in early May, with no weather issues. The city is a 6 hour drive from New Orleans, and is physically less of a drive than heading to KC. They could easily do three nights in a row here in Houston and sell out the place all nights. There is a good economy here, and people have money to spend, there is no loss coming here. Whoever tells you otherwise is full of it.

As for saying that they won't come here because of W or because it's a red state, that really undermines the integrity of the band for me. Do they not think that they still don't have fans that agree with their opinions here? I mean, personally, Texas is the last area of the world I want to live in, but with the recent downturn of the economy I literally had nowhere else in North America to move if I wanted to continue to have a secure job.... should I be punished for that??? And it's not even that bad for me, I've only lived here since 2007 and I can afford to spend some money to go other places to see PJ play, but what about their fans around here that can't??? How is that fair to them.

I gotta say, I still love PJ, and I will be flying to Boston to catch their shows and the Hartford show, and if I hear any complaints from any locals (like I did when I went to MSG in 08) about how much it sucks trying to go see PJ in their home town cause it's so difficult to get tickets cause of all the tourists taking vacations to go see the Jam, well I seriously might lean off and belt you in the face. But hopefully I'll be in a better mood about it by then, and just go pound another beer instead.

I'm sorry, but I can't defend the band in for not coming to Texas to play real PJ shows. It's ridiculous that they screw fans down here like that... and this coming from a Canadian....


Just my 2 cents.... If Tool can come through and make a profitable tour in the south, there is absolutely no reason PJ can't.

shep

MrSmith wrote:

SolarWorld wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Yep, you've got it all figured out. Why doesn't PJ just hire you? :roll:

Cause they figured it out before I did, I'm also not trying to tell them how to do their jobs like you are. Call up Curtis, tell them its so easy to play Texas. He might respond with something like, well the guys dont really like Texas and the South. So what then? You going to come on here and complain about that?

i like that you stick ideas no matter how ridiculous they sound

+1

After reading everyone's perception as to why they don't play Texas the only conclussion i can come up with is they must really not like Texas ...why else then

They will hit Austin again (probably Stubbs or maybe Antone's) in about 20 years for a reunion tour. I can wait.

its all about the $$$ people face it, pearl jam will make way more money up north, I even remember Mike saying in an interview a couple of years back, that they don't sell well in the south. Came right out of the mans mouth, do you guys need more proof? Pearl Jam only tours where they will make big money.

ummmmm, its not about the money, I have been to all the TX shows on the last tours, and they have all been sellouts... Dallas, Houston, and for all you tx bashers San Antonio is in texas as well... Not sure why they don't tour here, but I am sure it's not because of the various Bushes... Eddie actually lived here at one point, and he still has family here(or at least as of 2003)....I guess we are kind of a island in the middle of the southern border, not much around here to make it worthwhile for them to come thru...As for the rest of you folks who like to talk shit about texas, I can understand how you are pissy about our great schools, housing, health care, medical centers, and music scene(SXSW & ACL), so I apologize.. I am glad I am going to take my great education and economic well being and bounce around the NE this may and see a bunch of shows!!! Kiss My Texas ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like I said in another post last night, I heard from someone that Ed is playing an acoustic solo show at sxsw. And it comes from people who work at the bar of said show. It is possible considering people do surprise stuff at sx all the time unannounced

well i went from dissappointment to anger to just not giving a fuck about em. 90% of my love for PJ is the live shows, and since it looks like the days of real US tours are behind us, i guess its just time to move on. those Greatful Dead style mega tours just never materialised hahah. stupid families and kids.

Look Texas, just face it... he just isn't that into you anymore like he once was... yes, I know he should have talked to you about it and told you how he feels, but, well you know - duh, he is a guy... time to move on, find a new band... there are plenty of other fish in the sea... I hear creed and nickelback are single - they're nice boys, why don't you try them... don't worry, you'll love again... it'll be ok and you'll be better for the experience... remember it's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all...

...sorry couldn't resist.

I must admit, I probably get to see Pearl Jam more in my home venue here in Australia than Texans do. But Pearl Jam have also shown they will listen to fans. The 98 Perth Tour Petition was my experience of this. We'd been left off the Aussie tour. A few months out, Brad played in Perth and a petition which contained 10 or 15 thousand signatures was handed to Stone. A few weeks later two Perth shows were added to the Aussie tour. They were they were especially good shows. Yeild Tour - c'mon!!!

Anyway, my advice is to get active away from the 10c forum. Start an old fashioned petition, get it signed but as many people as you can. Forget an online petition - do a real one, something that impresses the band, shows real support because people bothered to put pen to paper, someone got active to get it happening. Visit the colleges, the record stores, the local live music venues - other concerts.

There are already rumours or at least speculation/chatter of a Fall US tour - probably a better time to tour the south anyway. Get a real petition to the band that in the event of a fall tour they come your way, that will do a hell of a lot more good that anything else.

Good luck guys. Hope you get your shows.

To say it's about the money is ridiculous.

They're playing KC, St. Louis, Buffalo, Colombus, Bristol and they played SLC last fall. Not exactly Major Markets.

I for one am happy that the midwest gets some shows. It's been longer for them than it has been for Texas.

We all know they announce shows in clumps. I mean they didn't play Seattle proper in about that long except for a couple of impossible shows like Showbox and Benaroya.

Sucks for my Texas friends but it is what it is.