LOST- 6th and Final Season (NO SPOILERS)

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  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    loved the premiere, but i always love lost. agree that it's getting even weirder, though...more new characters, more questions...no answers!

    i liked the exchange with jack and locke in the airport... "nothing is irreversible". also interesting to see how miserable their lives are/would have been if they never crashed. is the whole season supposed to be these two parallel dimensions or whatever was going on?
  • DeLukin
    DeLukin Posts: 2,757
    I definitely think the premier was designed to convince people who thought the show might go out with a whimper that it's definitely not. It's going to be a wild mind-bending ride right up until the end, which I'm glad to see. So even though it was a little over-the-top in places it should simmer down in the coming weeks. I was a little disappointed that they killed off Juliet because she added a lot of character depth, but maybe the parallel-universe thing will help balance her loss. Who knows, though. I've learned to not speculate when it comes to this show.
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    nfanel wrote:
    loved the premiere, but i always love lost. agree that it's getting even weirder, though...more new characters, more questions...no answers!

    i liked the exchange with jack and locke in the airport... "nothing is irreversible". also interesting to see how miserable their lives are/would have been if they never crashed. is the whole season supposed to be these two parallel dimensions or whatever was going on?


    Yes this season is going to focus on the parallel 2004 and 2007 timelines. This is a pretty good interview with the Lindelof and Cuse. Apologies if this was already posted.
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/02/lost-premiere-damon-carlton/
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    i love pearl jam people but this today makje me crazy!!!!!!!what a great show,,really in the back of my head is the thought that is gonna end and really i dont see any other show ever will be loved the same..
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,127
    well not too many answers
    and a long list of questions
    Why was Kate hanging from a tree directly after the bomb?
    Why is the imploded Swan station still there?
    How does Juliet know "it" worked?
    Why is Jacob's nemesis disappointed with the Others?
    How does Jacob know about Jin's meeting with the French team in 1988?
    Why does Charlie try to kill himself?
    Why does he think he was "supposed to die?"
    Who are the Temple Dwellers sending the signal to?
    What exactly do the flares signal?
    Why do the Others think that Jacob's nemesis is coming to the Temple?
    Why couldn't he enter the Temple while Jacob was alive?
    What is the significance of the blood on Jack's neck in the plane bathroom?
    Where is the coffin containing Christian Shephard?
    What is the significance of the hand-carved ankh inside the guitar case?
    How did Dogan know that the ankh contained a message?
    What did the message say?
    How did the translator know what Jacob's letter meant without looking at it?
    What is the significance of the water in the Temple?
    Why is it no longer clear?
    What are the "risks" that Dogan mentions?
    Why do the Others wait for the hourglass to run out when holding Sayid under water?
    What is the ash?
    What is Miles contemplating when he looks at Sayid's body?
    Where does Richard recognize Jacob's nemesis from?
    Why was Richard in chains?
    Why does Jacob's nemesis want to go home?
    Where/When is home?
    Where is Jacob's nemesis taking Richard?
    How did Desmond end up on Flight 815, and where did he go?
    Why Jack didn't remember Desmond inside Oceanic 815, whereas he did remember him instantly at [Swan|the Swan]] station?
    What are the specific causes of the changes in the alternate reality?
    Why is the Island underwater?
    Why are the Others at the Temple in trouble if Sayid dies?
    What exactly does Desmond really know?
    How was Sayid resurrected?


    many they better start answering some the questions instead of more open ended stuff!
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Ok episode. Not great. Not a big fan of the "sideways" flashes/alternate reality. Seems like something that is a good idea on paper ("Hey we've done flashbacks, flashforwards...what direction can we go now?") but in practice might not work too well.

    I read the article in EW with Lost on the cover and they hinted that the answer Charlie asked in the first season, "Where are we?" might not be answered. They compared it to the midichlroian (sp?) explanation for the force in The Phantom Menace saying something like sometimes when you explain things too much it becomes tedious (I'm paraphrasing). This would really be disappointing to me. It's really the only question I want answered.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    Get_Right wrote:
    well not too many answers
    and a long list of questions
    Why was Kate hanging from a tree directly after the bomb?
    Why is the imploded Swan station still there?
    How does Juliet know "it" worked?
    Why is Jacob's nemesis disappointed with the Others?
    How does Jacob know about Jin's meeting with the French team in 1988?
    Why does Charlie try to kill himself?
    Why does he think he was "supposed to die?"
    Who are the Temple Dwellers sending the signal to?
    What exactly do the flares signal?
    Why do the Others think that Jacob's nemesis is coming to the Temple?
    Why couldn't he enter the Temple while Jacob was alive?
    What is the significance of the blood on Jack's neck in the plane bathroom?
    Where is the coffin containing Christian Shephard?
    What is the significance of the hand-carved ankh inside the guitar case?
    How did Dogan know that the ankh contained a message?
    What did the message say?
    How did the translator know what Jacob's letter meant without looking at it?
    What is the significance of the water in the Temple?
    Why is it no longer clear?
    What are the "risks" that Dogan mentions?
    Why do the Others wait for the hourglass to run out when holding Sayid under water?
    What is the ash?
    What is Miles contemplating when he looks at Sayid's body?
    Where does Richard recognize Jacob's nemesis from?
    Why was Richard in chains?
    Why does Jacob's nemesis want to go home?
    Where/When is home?
    Where is Jacob's nemesis taking Richard?
    How did Desmond end up on Flight 815, and where did he go?
    Why Jack didn't remember Desmond inside Oceanic 815, whereas he did remember him instantly at [Swan|the Swan]] station?
    What are the specific causes of the changes in the alternate reality?
    Why is the Island underwater?
    Why are the Others at the Temple in trouble if Sayid dies?
    What exactly does Desmond really know?
    How was Sayid resurrected?


    many they better start answering some the questions instead of more open ended stuff!
    i believe in each of this answers we will have many questions again!!!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,892
    Get_Right wrote:
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    What is the significance of the hand-carved ankh inside the guitar case?
    The combination of ankh and guitar can add up to only onE thing...it foretells of an invasion...


    The Vinnie Vincent Invasion!!!

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    aa.Vinnie.Vincent.jpg
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    rrivers wrote:
    Ok episode. Not great. Not a big fan of the "sideways" flashes/alternate reality. Seems like something that is a good idea on paper ("Hey we've done flashbacks, flashforwards...what direction can we go now?") but in practice might not work too well.

    I read the article in EW with Lost on the cover and they hinted that the answer Charlie asked in the first season, "Where are we?" might not be answered. They compared it to the midichlroian (sp?) explanation for the force in The Phantom Menace saying something like sometimes when you explain things too much it becomes tedious (I'm paraphrasing). This would really be disappointing to me. It's really the only question I want answered.
    Where are we?" is like ARE WE DEAD???
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,127
    Poncier wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    [
    What is the significance of the hand-carved ankh inside the guitar case?
    The combination of ankh and guitar can add up to only onE thing...it foretells of an invasion...


    The Vinnie Vincent Invasion!!!
    that is effing funny!
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,892
    nfanel wrote:
    also interesting to see how miserable their lives are/would have been if they never crashed.
    Except for Hurley who proclaimed to Sawyer on the plane that he was "the luckiest guy in the world". And Boone didn't seem too misearble either.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    nfanel wrote:
    loved the premiere, but i always love lost. agree that it's getting even weirder, though...more new characters, more questions...no answers!

    i liked the exchange with jack and locke in the airport... "nothing is irreversible". also interesting to see how miserable their lives are/would have been if they never crashed. is the whole season supposed to be these two parallel dimensions or whatever was going on?

    I'm not sure if everyone in the new flight was miserable. I mean Bernard and Rose looked happy, Hurley thought of himself as the luckiest man in the world, Sawyer didn't try and con Hurley, and Jack was still trying to do the impossible.

    I did really like the scene with Jack and Locke.

    I also thought it was cool to see what the smoke monster was and how the man in black used the form of Locke and Smokey to get Ben to kill Jacob.

    There are a lot of things I liked out of the episode, but the one thing I really want more of is to see what happens with Fake Locke and Richard.
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  • FirstExit
    FirstExit Los Angeles Posts: 973
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    FirstExit wrote:
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.

    The plane ride scenes we saw last night were from 2004 and the on-island scenes were from 2007. I think your phrasing has confused me...I don't see them as flashforwards or flashbacks, but rather as parallel timelines, just showing different points.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    FirstExit wrote:
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.
    But Juliet set off the bomb already and knew it worked.. I think they split into two alternet planes of existance. Maybe once everything on the island is resolved they will merge. The characters seem to be interacting and helping eachother out after the plane landed. Maybe they are meant to help eachother and have a role in fixing eachothers lives. At this point them still on the island maybe symbolic of whats happening in reality (them landing without crashing).. just a thought.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    FirstExit wrote:
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.
    But Juliet set off the bomb already and knew it worked.. I think they split into two alternet planes of existance. Maybe once everything on the island is resolved they will merge. The characters seem to be interacting and helping eachother out after the plane landed. Maybe they are meant to help eachother and have a role in fixing eachothers lives. At this point them still on the island maybe symbolic of whats happening in reality (them landing without crashing).. just a thought.

    this is sort of what I think, they will eventually merge in a way, but it is two sperate realities. That they were all supposed to meet and be a part of each others lives and that time will correct itself no matter what.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • FirstExit
    FirstExit Los Angeles Posts: 973
    cdp1223 wrote:
    FirstExit wrote:
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.

    The plane ride scenes we saw last night were from 2004 and the on-island scenes were from 2007. I think your phrasing has confused me...I don't see them as flashforwards or flashbacks, but rather as parallel timelines, just showing different points.

    It's in 2004, but it's in 2004 without them ever crashing. Therefore Farraday's plan was successful.
  • cdp1223
    cdp1223 Posts: 1,131
    FirstExit wrote:
    cdp1223 wrote:
    FirstExit wrote:
    I think the plane ride is after everything on the island happens. It's a flashforward, but it's a flashforward to the past. What I'm getting at is sometime during the season, Jack/the rest of the members of the island will achieve their ultimate goal of setting everything back to normal, in turn flashing themselves back to 2004 and forgetting everything. Flight 815 will be just a normal flight from Sydney to LAX.

    The plane ride scenes we saw last night were from 2004 and the on-island scenes were from 2007. I think your phrasing has confused me...I don't see them as flashforwards or flashbacks, but rather as parallel timelines, just showing different points.

    It's in 2004, but it's in 2004 without them ever crashing. Therefore Farraday's plan was successful.

    Agreed.
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    Poncier wrote:
    Get_Right wrote:
    [
    What is the significance of the hand-carved ankh inside the guitar case?
    The combination of ankh and guitar can add up to only onE thing...it foretells of an invasion...


    The Vinnie Vincent Invasion!!!

    1067196755_IZVinnie00.JPG
    aa.Vinnie.Vincent.jpg
    ha!!! leave it to you.....
  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I think they split into two alternet planes of existance. Maybe once everything on the island is resolved they will merge. The characters seem to be interacting and helping eachother out after the plane landed. Maybe they are meant to help eachother and have a role in fixing eachothers lives. At this point them still on the island maybe symbolic of whats happening in reality (them landing without crashing).. just a thought.
    so they're basically stealing the idea behind the gwenyth paltrow movie "sliding doors". :o

    i like that idea, though...that they'll all help each other fix their lives...

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