(PJ related) CBS: Video Relay Interpreters Companies Busted
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Sorry, blondie... but I thought about it some more...
The "helper" aka interpreters... for those who worked many hours on translating the songs...and working hard during the show.
It's not an easy job....so I think it's a nice acknowledgment, you know? Natalie told me it had never happened to her before at other concerts and she said it made her feel so good that Ed gave her a nod of acknowledgment. It really made her feel good about herself.
It's nice to be appreciated for all the hard work you've put into something and hoping it did something good, you know?
I do see what you mean, though, Blondie.
Not those people who are doing it so they can have the "look at me!" or only doing it for the purpose of getting attention, hoping to get something more out of it. :roll:
Big difference.JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
I thought you were upset ed sometimes pulls the interrupters on stage, no?
I see what you’re saying about CC for concerts. Good point.*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
No, not necessarily.... those particular interpreters from Texas, yes.
They were abusing their positions - using us as a vehicle of means in order to accomplish their goals. :P
They did not care about providing us access - their original attitude when I finally got to them at the stage at Lolla 07 on the first night was horrible. I explained the difficulty of seeing them and how I was having problems with the guy who wouldn't take me to them so that I could see them during the show.
They just shrugged me off with noses up in the air, saying "We are providing access to the whole crowd"
Then I said excuse me? You are involved in the Deaf Community, as I can tell from the way you are signing... you know better than that - we need close proximity in order to see you!
I've been trying to contact you for FOUR months! Then they realized who I was.... changed their faces right there.
But yet, they kept lying to me over and over... and one terp in particular was stalking EV the whole weekend.
So much shit went on that weekend.
I complained and told a whole bunch of people... including 10c. More than once.
Then again before ACL....told them it was those same interpreters.
Then what do I see? :P
That's why I got fucking pissed off at EV. I got the impression that he or 10c didn't take me seriously about the problems I faced with those interpreters both in 07 and 08 at Lollapalooza.
It was a slap to my face... sending a message to the interpreting community that they could get away with it and get rewarded.
In 2007, I filed with Department of Justice and a separate complaint with the Texas agency that oversees and certificates interpreters.
Nothing. They got away with it.JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
So unprofessional! :evil:
The DOJ is flooded with cases all because people don't act right and/or don't follow the ADA.
it's all right there people in the ADA.....now do right!*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
blondieblue227 wrote:So unprofessional! :evil:
The DOJ is flooded with cases all because people don't act right and/or don't follow the ADA.
it's all right there people in the ADA.....now do right!
*smirks* Yup.
DOJ sent me a letter saying they won't take the case...and recommended me to other agencies. :roll:
Funny, when I tried some of those agencies, they were no longer in service. so yeah, they are totally flooded.
I know some folks who are still waiting years...
That's why there are so many problems and some people know they can get away with it because of the flawed system. :(
Like you said, companies are finding loopholes in ADA and using them to their advantages.JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
WOW Mel thats awesome!!!
I hope that biatch from Lolla is one of the people who's ass gets nailed to the wall at some point!!
Keep up the good work!! Even if you don't see results for yourself, you will have MANY others for years to come that will benefit((hugs))
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz0 -
Thanks, Mel.
You've been very supportive since the beginning, always lending me your ears and shoulders whenever i wanted to rant about those terps!
Thanks for that! ((hugs))JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
IamMine wrote:covered in bliss wrote:A simple solution would be that Pearl Jam hires a full time Interpreter. Someone should travel with them to every show... A person that knows what's going on.... someone that disabled audience members can understand. I don't think anyone else does this...............pave the way, Pearl Jam!
Would that person be a tax deduction? Maybe?
It's not surprising that these people were busted. 90% of government paid workers are 'set'--- their jobs are too cushy.
That would be awesome...but that would require EV to do some work as a manager. Stone would have to step in and help.
I would love to be a fly on the wall for the interviews!
"OK, Jane... do 'Lukin'"
"Uh...right now? here?" *gets extremely nervous, her arms getting wobbly and numb*
"I'm just kidding! Do this one..."
Yes, it's tax deductible. Everything used to pay for the interpreters is tax deductible.
It would be a challenging for the band, I think... they could do a "one time tour" with selective cities just to see how this works out?See how the demand is and how the audience (both you and me) responds?
Guess it's up to Mr. Stone.
I really hope you've written to management explaining the situation and your concerns. The band doesn't need to be involved. A serious interpreter shouldn't be that hard to find. Tons of people already tour with the band.... what's another one?0 -
covered in bliss wrote:
I really hope you've written to management explaining the situation and your concerns. The band doesn't need to be involved. A serious interpreter shouldn't be that hard to find. Tons of people already tour with the band.... what's another one?
You're tempting me. :P
It's easier being mad at EV right now, wanting to kick his and those terps' asses and not trying that routine. Even though I know i'd get rejected.
It is just more complicated than that... it's not so simple...
And Blondie's paper is just pissing me off even more thinking about all those little details I forgot about at lolla - C3's asshole lawyer and my two lawyers. His attitude was patronizing and those 2 deaf lawyers were classy all the way. My veins were throbbing the whole time...and they were just being cool and classy. And they did all this work on donations, which isn't much...
I want to write a separate post giving those two lawyers a shout for all the hard work they did on the lolla case for 2008, but right now my daughter wants to hog my laptop (the other computer got fried :( ).
Thanks, covered in bliss.
I'll just stay mad for a while longer, ok?JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
All that pint up anger isn’t doing anybody good.
Write a letter to pj management.
If you really read my paper, you’ll see I really resent people with disabilities that just sit around and complain and don’t try to improve their situation. (that goes for all people really)
You’ve already done a lot, do a bit more. It’s no big deal.*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
blondieblue227 wrote:All that pint up anger isn’t doing anybody good.
Write a letter to pj management.
If you really read my paper, you’ll see I really resent people with disabilities that just sit around and complain and don’t try to improve their situation. (that goes for all people really)
You’ve already done a lot, do a bit more. It’s no big deal.
I totally agree Blondie!
Mel...By taking a defeatist attitude regarding Curtis Management you are admitting defeat without fighting.
In not even TRYING you are taking any chance of Curtis surprising you by doing the right thing away from them.
Are the odds in your favour??? No Is there a slight chance that SOME change my eventually come from writing a letter to Curtis Management?? Hell yes!
Mel all you can do is try! Then you can at least say you did EVERYTHING you could! That you never gave up no matter how much the odds were against you.
I KNOW you have it in you Mel. I'd be happy to proof read before you send it in too...and I'm sure Blondie would too...right Blondie??"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz0 -
:P Now my ass is the one getting kicked. :( Yes, i know you meant well....
Well, that is going to take a lot of thinking on how/what to write....
we are talking about asking them to take on additional responsibilities and more $$ to pay. Something that they are NOT required to do.
And secondly, getting enough support and/or interest to back me up on this. From my experience, not much... not even on the lolla case!!! Very few, to my surprise - they'd rather talk about it than going through the process with me.
I am not comfortable in signing off the letter.... that there are also others who would love to see this happening.
I do agree with you on one part - at least try. Sigh... it's not the management I'm mad at, Mel.... but whatever, I'm starting to sound ridiculous now.JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
Just to let you know... I emailed Bjorn Storm and asked for his feedback as an interpreter.
I also will be asking around, including the lawyer i worked with because he said I could contact him anytime and then give you the draft letter here to look at for feedback.JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
Sorry for another post tonight...but wanted to post this partial information related to the VRS situation that I got from one of my close friends, who is an activist and blogger.
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a ... 4764A1.pdf
Edward Lazarus, FCC Chief of Staff, said "This is, to my knowledge, the largest investigation that the FCC’s Inspector General’s Office has ever undertaken, and we could not have effectively pursued the indictments unsealed today without a terrific collaboration across many agencies."
:shock:JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
IamMine wrote:....and we could not have effectively pursued the indictments unsealed today without a terrific collaboration across many agencies."
See when people do come together, good things happen. the agencies. You can’t sit on the sidelines.
Look forward to proof reading!
"I had absolutely no idea if they had even received it or read it.
“I thought if you don’t ask, you don’t really know (what can happen).”
- melissa leckie
From Pearl Jam helps a Paralympian newstory: http://www.disaboomlive.com/forums/t/49706.aspx*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
blondieblue227 wrote:
See when people do come together, good things happen. the agencies. You can’t sit on the sidelines.
you always make very good points, blondie.blondieblue227 wrote:Look forward to proof reading!
Very cool...it will take time, though. But looking forward to your feedback!blondieblue227 wrote:"I had absolutely no idea if they had even received it or read it.
“I thought if you don’t ask, you don’t really know (what can happen).”
- melissa leckie
From Pearl Jam helps a Paralympian newstory: http://www.disaboomlive.com/forums/t/49706.aspx
Damn, how did i miss that story?
Now I feel like a total asshole.
If EV ever found out about this thread, he'd have every right to smirk at me. :P
*mutters*JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
hahahahaha!
you're not an asshole unless you don't write that letter.*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0 -
blondieblue227 wrote:hahahahaha!
Oh, I totally deserved it... especially what I did that nobody knows, other than hubby and 10c. :oops:
EV would be totally going "take that, bitch!" *flips the bird*blondieblue227 wrote:you're not an asshole unless you don't write that letter.
Maybe less of an asshole... :P
I will do that letter on behalf for others....to make it easier for EV to decide. :P
If it were for me, i'd say fuck off if i were him.:P
JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0 -
he would SO not say that.*~Pearl Jam will be blasted from speakers until morale improves~*0
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blondieblue227 wrote:he would SO not say that.
Really? Want to bet, blondie?
Want me to tell you what i did?
I could do that privately, if you'd prefer....JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
EV: It's your band.
~Q Magazine
"Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII0
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