Palin Quits
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prfctlefts wrote:weenie wrote:An aversion to demonstrated lack of common sense and intellect? Definitely!
Just because you disagree with her Politics you think she lacks common sense and intellect ? Or maybe it's because the way she speaks you feel this way.
Not because I disagree with her politics, but because she presented herself as someone who was "fit" to be second in command of this country yet couldn't present a logical or coherent understanding of any the real issues. When she debated Biden, every response she had revolved around morality and patriotism. She tries to appeal to the emotions of folks rather than provide logical, workable solutions. Bush took us to war using the same tactics - no well-thought out solutions, just emotional statements and jingoism.
As pointed out earlier in this thread regarding her recent speech, she doesn't appeal to emotions or philosophies very well either. All that bull about not wanting to be a lame duck and waste Alaskans time was a really sorry excuse for whatever it is she's trying to delay revealing.
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weenie wrote:prfctlefts wrote:weenie wrote:An aversion to demonstrated lack of common sense and intellect? Definitely!
Just because you disagree with her Politics you think she lacks common sense and intellect ? Or maybe it's because the way she speaks you feel this way.
Not because I disagree with her politics, but because she presented herself as someone who was "fit" to be second in command of this country yet couldn't present a logical or coherent understanding of any the real issues. When she debated Biden, every response she had revolved around morality and patriotism. She tries to appeal to the emotions of folks rather than provide logical, workable solutions. Bush took us to war using the same tactics - no well-thought out solutions, just emotional statements and jingoism.
As pointed out earlier in this thread regarding her recent speech, she doesn't appeal to emotions or philosophies very well either. All that bull about not wanting to be a lame duck and waste Alaskans time was a really sorry excuse for whatever it is she's trying to delay revealing.
I disagreed with John McCain's politics, but I respected him, and still do.
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JR8805 wrote:Sarah Palin. The woman who ran for governor of Alaska so she could quit as soon as a better financial opportunity, a better position, or a big scandal came along. Besides, people are mean to her. Boo hoo. Wow. They're mean in poltics--they notice stuff. As the country song goes, she'll love Alaska forever or until something better comes along. And this person wanted/wants to be President of the US? What would she do if elected and things got rough or she felt she could make more money on the talk circuit? She'll "love the US forever or until something better comes along" is the track record she's leaving behind her. She's a backstabbing, self-absorbed, lying quitter who can't stick with simpler commitments she makes to voters. Republicans who worked with her say she a "whack job." She refused/couldn't study up for a televised event because something that should have taken her 20 minutes--what voters thought of her back home--was more important and time consuming than what a country full of voters might think of McCain if she wasn't prepared. There's a person with the right priorities. She imagines she's presidential material because she IS a whack job--a woman who refers to herself as "Your Heavenly Father" in friendly emails. It seems to me that if she runs, Obama's going to have so much material he won't know what to put in a "Who would you want answering the phone at 3 a.m.?" ad. A deluded,narcissistic quitter just doesn't seem like the best person for the job, although I can't think of anyone else who could better gift wrap political ads to the Democrats.
i agree with most of what you have said here. the emails are coming out now between palin and the mccain advisors and she comes off like a loose cannon and very selfish. it was all about her and protecting her husband that her and mccain could not put on a united front. what we are hearing now is that her and mccain did not get on well, in addition to the staffers for both candidates.
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what i do disagree with is the fact that she will provide the dems alot of ammo for ads. she will provide it, but the dems will not use it against her for fear of being so hard on a woman, and then having a possible voter backlash on their hands. that would be palin's only advantage in all of this. i think the dems would let the media do that dirty work and appear to be above all of it and have nothing to do with it. if i were a strategist that is how i would handle it.
at any rate i still say she has about as good a chance at getting the nomination as i do. and i am as far from a republican as i can be."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
JB811 wrote:Funny how the left are always the ones crying about hate. I can see the hypocrisy flowing in this thread.
Hate where do you see hate? She does speak in garbled in circle sentences that appear to make no sense. At times shes hard to to listen to but when she speaks many on the right listen. To me she brings a lightened atmosphere to the table when she speaks and I like her for that.
This abrupt departure signals to me something more is amidst maybe through investigations it maybe revealed. I wish her the best she'll need it if she wishes to continue in government.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.0 -
JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
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weenie wrote:JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.
Once again, +1. The woman does scare the shit out of me. Not because she's a serious threat, but just that the republicans are so far off the reservation that they think she's a legit candidate and that there are citizens out there that agree. She represents everything that fucked our country up so bad over the last 8-9 years... blind patriotism, wilful ignorance of reality, gross incompetence, cowboy down home hokum disguised as some sort of salt of the earth credibility... and it scares me that they seem to still be ok with that.0 -
weenie wrote:JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.
That really is what it came down to a fear that she would be second in charge with an older fellow like McCain as President. However, as much she felt she would do things different and shake Washington DC up those in power would put her in place if she ever came to power. Something like what's happening to Obama he has to play the political game even though he may want to do things in the name of change.
Peace*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)0 -
+2soulsinging wrote:weenie wrote:JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.
Once again, +1. The woman does scare the shit out of me. Not because she's a serious threat, but just that the republicans are so far off the reservation that they think she's a legit candidate and that there are citizens out there that agree. She represents everything that fucked our country up so bad over the last 8-9 years... blind patriotism, wilful ignorance of reality, gross incompetence, cowboy down home hokum disguised as some sort of salt of the earth credibility... and it scares me that they seem to still be ok with that.
i agree with every word you have said there..0 -
http://www.palinaspresident.us/
Someone forwarded this to me and there is new stuff added since I last visited.
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lol this is pretty good. i like the oil derricks inthe white house lawn. and pretty much most of the rest of it lol..wolfbear wrote:http://www.palinaspresident.us/
Someone forwarded this to me and there is new stuff added since I last visited."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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This morning it sounds as if Palin's going to be the new National Chairperson of the Republican Party. That's how the Dems handled Howard Dean when he became an embarrassment, made him National Chairman of the party. :shock:~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
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is she so important person?"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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She is important only because she has the potential to have a negative impact on the US and the world (like Bush did). However, a large group of people in this country who believe she would make a good leader (religious right) have power. Even though most of us realize it would be a mistake to place her in such a position, power often trumps logic when it comes to politics.
Our constitution clearly states that church and state are to be separate, but a lot of folks ignore that fact in support of an agenda termed "morality". In my opinion, morality is religion in disguise. I'm more interested in ethical behavior. Who's qualified to be judging morality? Palin likes to parade her good old fashioned American morals and values out as the solution to everything. There is nothing substantive about her.~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
Henry David Thoreau0 -
this is a free world,,everybody has his believes,and his opinion,,opinion is like asses,,everybody has one,,morality is in the plan to put people in system orders too.i was in 2008 in usa,exactly in new york..i see that people in the states live more not free like my country,,and there is alot of fear of alot of things,,here in Greece the way of life is different,,we are more calm,,with more slow rythm of life,,for sure new york isnt the place to judge all usa,but generally i think there is an "inside job" put things in peoples minds there..weenie wrote:She is important only because she has the potential to have a negative impact on the US and the world (like Bush did). However, a large group of people in this country who believe she would make a good leader (religious right) have power. Even though most of us realize it would be a mistake to place her in such a position, power often trumps logic when it comes to politics.
Our constitution clearly states that church and state are to be separate, but a lot of folks ignore that fact in support of an agenda termed "morality". In my opinion, morality is religion in disguise. I'm more interested in ethical behavior. Who's qualified to be judging morality? Palin likes to parade her good old fashioned American morals and values out as the solution to everything. There is nothing substantive about her."...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”0 -
i don't see how she can have a real shot when she's leaving her job nearly 3 years before she would be elected.
someone mentioned her complaining about being treated different as a woman, i remember when she was first made VP the daily show played clips of her getting onto Clinton for saying basically the same thing and how Clinton needed to stop complaining about itdon't compete; coexist
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I thought Rush would be the next Chairman of the Rep. Party.weenie wrote:This morning it sounds as if Palin's going to be the new National Chairperson of the Republican Party. That's how the Dems handled Howard Dean when he became an embarrassment, made him National Chairman of the party. :shock:
And speaking of Palin becoming that, since the party itself is trying to separate itself from extremists like Rush, it doesn't exactly make much sense to make her Chairwoman...0 -
+1. She scares a lot of people.soulsinging wrote:weenie wrote:JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.
Once again, +1. The woman does scare the shit out of me. Not because she's a serious threat, but just that the republicans are so far off the reservation that they think she's a legit candidate and that there are citizens out there that agree. She represents everything that fucked our country up so bad over the last 8-9 years... blind patriotism, wilful ignorance of reality, gross incompetence, cowboy down home hokum disguised as some sort of salt of the earth credibility... and it scares me that they seem to still be ok with that.0 -
weenie wrote:JB811 wrote:If it isn't hate it is fear because the left views her as a serious threat, which if that were the case it would explain why so many are intent with attacking her. Personally I don't pay any mind to someone that isn't worthy of my time, and candidates who are running against one that I choose that have no chance of winning don't get much attention.
I feel the attacks on her are way overdone and unjustified. And to be really honest I wouldn't vote for her anyway, not because of what she has or has not done but because I'm looking for someone else to step up.
Fear is definitely more like it. I was scared shitless that a person like her, with absolutely no grasp of what's really going on, would be second-in-charge of this country.
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Jeanwah wrote:
I thought Rush would be the next Chairman of the Rep. Party.weenie wrote:This morning it sounds as if Palin's going to be the new National Chairperson of the Republican Party. That's how the Dems handled Howard Dean when he became an embarrassment, made him National Chairman of the party. :shock:
And speaking of Palin becoming that, since the party itself is trying to separate itself from extremists like Rush, it doesn't exactly make much sense to make her Chairwoman...
I'm not sure that many members of the Republican Party view her as an extremist. I think they see her as representing the Mom, home and apple pie constituency - even though she is a real flake. I guess all we can do is wait and see what her big news is. :?~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
Mohandas K. Gandhi
~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
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