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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    jervin007 wrote:
    So do you remember how Ben tells Charles Widmore that he is going to kill Penny? Well, if you pay attention to the setting when Ben called Jack (and he is all beaten up) you would that he is on the water. My latest theory is that Ben goes to the boat and kills Penny,getting his ass kicked by Desmond in the process. He escapes, but it was all in an effort to get Desmond on his course back to the island.
    I dunno. Ben running afoul of Desmond is similar to my theory of Sayid trying some ninja moves on him. Do you seriously think Ben could get the better of Desmond? Especially after discovering Ben had killed Penny? I'd find it more believable that that's how Ben looked after Penny was through with him. He may have succeeded in killing her but she fought him till his bug eyes nearly popped out. :shock:
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  • jervin007 wrote:
    So do you remember how Ben tells Charles Widmore that he is going to kill Penny? Well, if you pay attention to the setting when Ben called Jack (and he is all beaten up) you would that he is on the water. My latest theory is that Ben goes to the boat and kills Penny,getting his ass kicked by Desmond in the process. He escapes, but it was all in an effort to get Desmond on his course back to the island.
    I dunno. Ben running afoul of Desmond is similar to my theory of Sayid trying some ninja moves on him. Do you seriously think Ben could get the better of Desmond? Especially after discovering Ben had killed Penny? I'd find it more believable that that's how Ben looked after Penny was through with him. He may have succeeded in killing her but she fought him till his bug eyes nearly popped out. :shock:
    You got to remember Ben is a tricky little bastard. I mean if he still has that whacking pole he used on those two guys in the desert, he could've easily taken out Desmond when his guard was down.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,886
    Benry a tricky bastard? Nah can't be so. ;)
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,886
    There's one thing that makes little sense about Benry killing Penny at the marina, which is definitely what they are making us think happened.

    How long would it take to sail a 30' sailboat from London to LA? Even using the Panama Canal and getting some nice hurricane force winds I doubt Desmond and Penny could sail it in 3 days time(even if little Charlie manned the spinnaker). Desmond had to have flown to LA to get there in the time he did.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Poncier wrote:
    There's one thing that makes little sense about Benry killing Penny at the marina, which is definitely what they are making us think happened.

    How long would it take to sail a 30' sailboat from London to LA? Even using the Panama Canal and getting some nice hurricane force winds I doubt Desmond and Penny could sail it in 3 days time(even if little Charlie manned the spinnaker). Desmond had to have flown to LA to get there in the time he did.

    I think he did fly, with Penny and their baby.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,886

    I think he did fly, with Penny and their baby.
    Which is why I think the marina pay phone scene may be a red herring.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Poncier wrote:

    I think he did fly, with Penny and their baby.
    Which is why I think the marina pay phone scene may be a red herring.

    I agree
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    This is something that has been bothering me - what airline would accept reservations for 4 members of the Oceanic 6 on the same flight heading to the South Pacific?

    I mean Jack, Hurley, Sayid and Sun all presumably would be using their real names and Kate would have to be using some sort of fake id because she's still under probation and can't leave the state.

    Wouldn't some sort of red flag go up on the airline computers not letting them be on the same flight sort of how like brothers can't be on the same ship in the navy for example?

    I just can't see how any airline would allow all of them to purchase tickets for the same flight.
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  • chromiam
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    It's Aijira Airlines... where destiny calls.... what else do you need to know??? ;)
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Solat13 wrote:
    This is something that has been bothering me - what airline would accept reservations for 4 members of the Oceanic 6 on the same flight heading to the South Pacific?

    I mean Jack, Hurley, Sayid and Sun all presumably would be using their real names and Kate would have to be using some sort of fake id because she's still under probation and can't leave the state.

    Wouldn't some sort of red flag go up on the airline computers not letting them be on the same flight sort of how like brothers can't be on the same ship in the navy for example?

    I just can't see how any airline would allow all of them to purchase tickets for the same flight.

    With today's economy, they will let anyone on the plane
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Solat13 wrote:
    This is something that has been bothering me - what airline would accept reservations for 4 members of the Oceanic 6 on the same flight heading to the South Pacific?

    I mean Jack, Hurley, Sayid and Sun all presumably would be using their real names and Kate would have to be using some sort of fake id because she's still under probation and can't leave the state.

    Wouldn't some sort of red flag go up on the airline computers not letting them be on the same flight sort of how like brothers can't be on the same ship in the navy for example?

    I just can't see how any airline would allow all of them to purchase tickets for the same flight.

    They're not related so the brothers example doesn't really fit. I was going to say I remember Oceanic gave them all free flights forever, but then I remembered they weren't on an Oceanic flight.

    If they all bought tickets at different times, I could see how no one would notice especially if it is an out of the way airline.

    Anyway, that is one thing with the show that I am willing to let slide if the episodes would improve.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Anybody else not really into the next episode. I just want to get more info on the island and don't care that much about what happened with John when he was off.
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Among the lame moments in last week's episode (there were many), did anyone else think it was strange that Jack didn't have anything of his dad's that he could give to Locke? I mean, no little memento that he could part with? A watch or something? ANYTHING? Then he goes to see his grandfather (who looks younger than his father) who JUST HAPPENS to have a pair of dad's shoes! :roll: What are the odds? OK, this is Lost so I guess the odds are pretty good. But really, granddad has kept these shoes around for 3 years, WTF? Then he's so attached to them that he just lets Jack take them. :roll: Good thing too cuz Jack hasn't been looking around for anything else to give to Locke. Then, incredibly enough, when Jack goes to put the shoes on Locke they are a PERFECT FIT! What ARE the odds? Oh, yeah . . . . Doncha know Lock is gonna be grateful for those wingtips when he gets back to the island . . . . :roll:

    I know, I know, Lost is supposed to stretch things but the more I think about last week the more things bother me: the build-up to the meeting in the church was pretty much for nothing, Kate agreed to go with no explanation and Jack just accepted it, nobody asked about what happened to Ben--they've got a lot of gaps to fill in with this one.
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Poncier wrote:

    I think he did fly, with Penny and their baby.
    Which is why I think the marina pay phone scene may be a red herring.
    Why did Ben want everybody to meet at the marina before they even knew Desmond was in town?
    Maybe he got afoul of some Colombian drug lord. :twisted:
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  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Anybody else not really into the next episode. I just want to get more info on the island and don't care that much about what happened with John when he was off.

    I can see that. This has happened to me in the past, where I wasn't into an episode or two and then an episode will come on (usually one I'm not that excited about) and it will blow me away. I have been hoping that will happen with this week's episode, but I have been waiting for that to happen for the last four episodes.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers
    rrivers Posts: 3,698
    Among the lame moments in last week's episode (there were many), did anyone else think it was strange that Jack didn't have anything of his dad's that he could give to Locke? I mean, no little memento that he could part with? A watch or something? ANYTHING? Then he goes to see his grandfather (who looks younger than his father) who JUST HAPPENS to have a pair of dad's shoes! :roll: What are the odds? OK, this is Lost so I guess the odds are pretty good. But really, granddad has kept these shoes around for 3 years, WTF? Then he's so attached to them that he just lets Jack take them. :roll: Good thing too cuz Jack hasn't been looking around for anything else to give to Locke. Then, incredibly enough, when Jack goes to put the shoes on Locke they are a PERFECT FIT! What ARE the odds? Oh, yeah . . . . Doncha know Lock is gonna be grateful for those wingtips when he gets back to the island . . . . :roll:

    I know, I know, Lost is supposed to stretch things but the more I think about last week the more things bother me: the build-up to the meeting in the church was pretty much for nothing, Kate agreed to go with no explanation and Jack just accepted it, nobody asked about what happened to Ben--they've got a lot of gaps to fill in with this one.

    Good post. Not to mention, the whole thing about having to have something from his dad is just lame and just wastes time having Jack running around trying to find something from his dad. If you can get past that, then your points about the shoes are very valid.

    Your point about the church is dead on. That is really something I was disappointed in. Here is a point where we think we might be really getting some real answers or something very exciting is going to happen and it was just a complete letdown.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    rrivers wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    This is something that has been bothering me - what airline would accept reservations for 4 members of the Oceanic 6 on the same flight heading to the South Pacific?

    I mean Jack, Hurley, Sayid and Sun all presumably would be using their real names and Kate would have to be using some sort of fake id because she's still under probation and can't leave the state.

    Wouldn't some sort of red flag go up on the airline computers not letting them be on the same flight sort of how like brothers can't be on the same ship in the navy for example?

    I just can't see how any airline would allow all of them to purchase tickets for the same flight.

    They're not related so the brothers example doesn't really fit. I was going to say I remember Oceanic gave them all free flights forever, but then I remembered they weren't on an Oceanic flight.

    If they all bought tickets at different times, I could see how no one would notice especially if it is an out of the way airline.

    Anyway, that is one thing with the show that I am willing to let slide if the episodes would improve.

    I just can't buy that. If they're celebrities like they were portrayed in Season 4, their names would be in every airline's database. Sort of how like there is a do not fly list for people after the whole Patriot Act i.e. why Cat Stevens can't fly anymore in the U.S. There is no way an airline would allow those four to fly on the same plane.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13 wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    This is something that has been bothering me - what airline would accept reservations for 4 members of the Oceanic 6 on the same flight heading to the South Pacific?

    I mean Jack, Hurley, Sayid and Sun all presumably would be using their real names and Kate would have to be using some sort of fake id because she's still under probation and can't leave the state.

    Wouldn't some sort of red flag go up on the airline computers not letting them be on the same flight sort of how like brothers can't be on the same ship in the navy for example?

    I just can't see how any airline would allow all of them to purchase tickets for the same flight.

    They're not related so the brothers example doesn't really fit. I was going to say I remember Oceanic gave them all free flights forever, but then I remembered they weren't on an Oceanic flight.

    If they all bought tickets at different times, I could see how no one would notice especially if it is an out of the way airline.

    Anyway, that is one thing with the show that I am willing to let slide if the episodes would improve.

    I just can't buy that. If they're celebrities like they were portrayed in Season 4, their names would be in every airline's database. Sort of how like there is a do not fly list for people after the whole Patriot Act i.e. why Cat Stevens can't fly anymore in the U.S. There is no way an airline would allow those four to fly on the same plane.
    Why wouldn't they allow them to fly on the same plane? You're assuming that everybody would be superstitious about them. I know that when they all got on a new plane it crashed, but that was only because it was that specific plane, at that specific time. If they had gotten on any other plane together it wouldn't have crashed.
  • shit, I get more about the show from reading these posts than I do when watching the show! :D
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    shit, I get more about the show from reading these posts than I do when watching the show! :D
    I know! I'm hooked on this thread! :lol:
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."