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  • Lukin66
    Lukin66 Posts: 3,063
    I want to see a performance of No Way
    deep, deep blue of the morning
    gets to me every time
  • ECM
    ECM Posts: 1,687
    there are alot of people that share these same opinions..... don't agree with all of them, but whatever..... that's how you feel....

    however, this tour the 1st 2 rows are random and no transfers.... so the vibe should switch up night to night in regards to his "whales up front" comment.....

    AND this guy should NOT be banned..... he didn't point out any person in particular.... nice to get different view points on the board
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  • krobbinz
    krobbinz Posts: 187
    Shorter shows?!!! Holy poop, thats a bit far fetched.

    Even as a 33 year old with chronic arthritis in one knee I would LOVE to be a part of a 3 hour + show!

    I think Lolla was a great show, I took two friends that were non-Pearl Jam fans prior to the show and now we are planning on making the 15 hour drive to Bonnaroo to get another dose!
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  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    All I remember about the 40+ year old white women up front is that I was treated to a front row ticket in Halifax and I will always love them for that.

    They are good people.
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I usually tend towards sharing of the front rows when the Senority thing crops up...
    ...
    But, after reading some of these messages... there are alot of young shitheads here with a strong sense of self-entitlement. That is the typical stereo-type of your generation... way to go in proving that the stereo-type exists.
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  • pjbounce
    pjbounce Posts: 1
    I'm calling troll.

    You stated on 8/02/2006 that you had seen 51 shows.
    On 08/04/2007 it was 25+, which could mean 51.
    But, on 11/13/2007, you said you had seen 100+ shows. That would mean almost every show from that date forward, even though as you say 97 was the peak for you.

    Secondly, you state you have never been closer than the 12th row, and your number is 111,xxx. Anyone that watched that information on touring fans the last few tours knows that your number would get you closer than the 12th row most nights. It would definitely get you closer than the 12th row when(as you say you were) you were the first one in your block in 2003.

    Finally, there were many GA shows after 8/4/2007, you could have been in the front row for all of those. Even if you didn't want to be in front for the GA shows, when you went to the shows in Australia (which you would have had to do according to your posts), your number would have definitely been before the 12th row.
  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Should the fans on this tour in Rows 1-2 be worried that "the whales" are in Rows 3-4?
  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    pjbounce wrote:
    I'm calling troll.

    You stated on 8/02/2006 that you had seen 51 shows.
    On 08/04/2007 it was 25+, which could mean 51.
    But, on 11/13/2007, you said you had seen 100+ shows. That would mean almost every show from that date forward, even though as you say 97 was the peak for you.

    Secondly, you state you have never been closer than the 12th row, and your number is 111,xxx. Anyone that watched that information on touring fans the last few tours knows that your number would get you closer than the 12th row most nights. It would definitely get you closer than the 12th row when(as you say you were) you were the first one in your block in 2003.

    Finally, there were many GA shows after 8/4/2007, you could have been in the front row for all of those. Even if you didn't want to be in front for the GA shows, when you went to the shows in Australia (which you would have had to do according to your posts), your number would have definitely been before the 12th row.


    Wow.....you really care that much Inspector Gadget?
  • HailRoad24
    HailRoad24 Posts: 133
    I agree with the original poster in that PJ has become fairly predictable, especially on the 2006 tour. When I say predictable, I mean, we know we are going to get a solo in Even Flow, Alive, and Porch. Then, we know we will get a jam in RVM, Crazy Mary, and Daughter. Come on guys, chop the fat off of those songs, tigthen them up, and then throw in NEW solos and jams on other songs. RVM is killer in the #2 slot in the set without a long jam. Hell, lead off a show with a sharp, tight Even Flow. And like the OP said, end the show with Betterman/SIFL, or Smile more often, or even a pile-driving Porch.

    MITS, 1/2 Full, LBC, and others are prime for some seriously powerful jams.

    They've become a little vanilla in their live samplings of songs. It's time for a little shake up.
    -PUSH ME AND I WILL RESIST!
  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I agree with 99.4 % of this post.
    NERDS!
  • Spencer
    Spencer Posts: 867
    pjbounce wrote:
    I'm calling troll.

    You stated on 8/02/2006 that you had seen 51 shows.
    On 08/04/2007 it was 25+, which could mean 51.
    But, on 11/13/2007, you said you had seen 100+ shows. That would mean almost every show from that date forward, even though as you say 97 was the peak for you.

    Secondly, you state you have never been closer than the 12th row, and your number is 111,xxx. Anyone that watched that information on touring fans the last few tours knows that your number would get you closer than the 12th row most nights. It would definitely get you closer than the 12th row when(as you say you were) you were the first one in your block in 2003.

    Finally, there were many GA shows after 8/4/2007, you could have been in the front row for all of those. Even if you didn't want to be in front for the GA shows, when you went to the shows in Australia (which you would have had to do according to your posts), your number would have definitely been before the 12th row.

    None of that makes any of what he said any less valid, though. Who cares how many shows he's been to or not been to?!

    Agree with you 110%, original poster dude; you've the nail on the head, etc.

    ESPECIALLY on the shorter shows. Shorter shows = more intense shows, it's true - check out 2005.11.25: another short(ish) show but just an intense experience, not a dull second.
  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    spencer wrote:
    None of that makes any of what he said any less valid, though. Who cares how many shows he's been to or not been to?!

    Agree with you 110%, original poster dude; you've the nail on the head, etc.

    ESPECIALLY on the shorter shows. Shorter shows = more intense shows, it's true - check out 2005.11.25: another short(ish) show but just an intense experience, not a dull second.

    + I think about 3% of all Ten club members use that touring fans website.
    NERDS!
  • URthekey
    URthekey Posts: 1,914
    For the convience off all not wanting to sift through the OP's lengthy post, I have read between the lines and will summarize what he really wants to say to PJ:

    1. "I want your songs to sound the same as they do on the album."

    2. "Turn Mike up, unless he CAN'T play good for medical reasons, then I'll deal"

    3. "Put stuffed suits, corporate whores and supermodels in the front rows, it doesn't matter if they are real fans, they'll LOOK better."

    4. "You should ask me to write the setlists, I'll do a better job because I know what the real fans really want"

    5. "I couldn't get a poster last tour so I'm bitter"

    6. "Can we get this show over with, I need to be in bed by 10:30 or I'll be cranky in the morning. Oh and Ed, just shut up and sing, I get all the political and social information I need from Fox 5 news."
  • kh65
    kh65 Posts: 946
    I know there is some repetition in their shows. But I need to remind everyone that the "experiment" for the '03 Boston shows was not just the acoustic "pre-set". The reason for that was the curfew that venue imposes because of sound and neighbors (10 p.m.) so the band went on early. The reason was they were planing EVERY SONG they played that tour WITHOUT REPEATING any over the 3 nights. It was 105 songs and they needed to get them all in.

    There I got that off my chest. :)
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  • zeroenvy
    zeroenvy Posts: 40
    Alot of the things he mentioned is part of the reason's i got so into pearl jam. Part of the reasons i'm excited to see them.. Sounds like you've seen them waay to many times and are getting bored.
    6/27/08!
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I hate the original post with a white-hot passion.

    Except for No. 5. I'm all for that.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    elvistheking44 wrote:
    Problem solved...........

    GO TO FEWER SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I took a ten year break from 98 to 07, saw the Europe shows and was blown away once again.

    You have things to bitch about because youve been to way to many shows!

    This is the key. go to fewer shows. Stop buying boots.

    I've been to 14 shows since '95. I've heard Baba all of once. So it isn't overplayed to me. Just one example.

    Also, during my 14th show, on the '06 tour, I heard songs from Ten and Vs. that I had never heard live before. How's that for mixing it up?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    wow

    How could I have missed this,
    2 things

    1 You mentioned PJ snobs, they are out there, but easy to deal with, nothing a quick eye roll cant bear humor with, you on the other hand are an onnoxious snob, calling people out on their weight, wtf, you trashed the band. You put down every single thing the band does and "INSERT YOUR REQUEST" and expect changes?


    2 You mentioned being half the age, and 99% of the fans on this board relating too. I hate to break it to you, but there really are only about 200 consistant users that frequent this board since the dreadfull 06 tour you trashed. I have met maybee 20, and convert with prob 20 more, and consistantly read about another 20'posts, and I can tell you maybee 5 people on this board put themselves on your obnoxious level. It would be a very loneley front row with your posey in it.


    GET SOME HELP DUDE, FOGET ABOUT PEARL JAM, THAT IS FOR FUN AND ENTERTAINMENT, YOU NEED TO STRAIGHTEN YOUR JUDGEMENTS OUT AND ENJOY LIFE.
    Some people have religion I have Pearl Jam.


    no more shows
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    chikevin wrote:
    admit i didn't read the entire post, but more of a skim and these are the two points that stood out to me most.
    as much as i love release as an opener and YL as the perfect closer, would be nice to vary things a bit. IMO, it's ed. he just can't move past that kinda stuf.
    additionally...you said shorter shows. that was as far as i needed to go. didn't read any further. we are blessed with longer shows from our favorite band.

    i know...kinda simplistic views to your long post, but...what can i say...i'm 50/50 with ya in my response.


    WELL IVE SEEN THEM OVER 30 TIMES AND THEY OPENED WITH RELEASE TWICE
    AS FAR AS LED, I JUST LEAVE EARLY
    Some people have religion I have Pearl Jam.


    no more shows
  • nowayimfaithfull
    nowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    cd21miller wrote:
    in some circles, your words might be considered blasphemy.

    disagree -- play all night long. pretty sure 99% of the people on this board are going to say the same. 12-14 shows a year is what we get now? play the whole damn catalog. besides, i need the piss break on the RVM interlude between verses 2-3!

    agree -- hey, ed...let's live a little. why couldn't release be a nice opener for the encore? how about a new fun cover like RITFW that would freshen things up a bit? i've always heard jeff talk about covering an old school AC/DC song...how much fun would that be?

    agree -- give mike more juice. no way should that man be hidden.

    no comment -- the whales? uhh... all i know is that i would be fat and happy, too if i was a front row guy all the time. ;-)


    They do add covers, driven to tears, waiting on a friend, there were a few more, they have more covers than any band that plays out.
    mike had numerous solos in 06, he just chose to do them with inside job, and differant songs
    Some people have religion I have Pearl Jam.


    no more shows

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