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DP13
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  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    A lot of great points; except for the shorter shows; keep brining it all night boys.
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  • chikevin
    chikevin Posts: 421
    a8l wrote:
    Things I would like to see for the '08 tour:

    1. 4. Close the damn show with Alive, Porch or Betterman/SIFL. Free World and Baba are awesome, but getting to be predictable. Even the crapola country shows my wife drags me to bust out new closers every tour. If the boys can't come up with some new and exciting covers to close the show, what is so wrong with bringing down the house with the music we all came to hear? If the old stand byes are a must; Why not use Baba to close the first set, or have the first "fast one" of the night be RITFW???? Now that would be cool.6. Shorter shows. Yep, I said it... the shows are too long and looser than a well, a Bon Jovi groupie. Lolla, while not terribly long in actual songs played, drug on embarrassingly long. Leave the audience wanting more, not wanting a chair. A three hour marathon is awesome, but not so much when it is expected every night. I honestly remember my friends telling me last tour that they were "saving energy for the second encore". I am not looking for much cut off, but you want to know my favorite shows of the past few years??? The PJ opening for Petty shows where we got 18-20 songs... I was left feigning for more and all that was really cut out when you got down to it, was a BoomBoom Crazy Mary solo, an Ed ukulele fuckup fest, A political rant that has flip flopped more over the years than (insert politician) and the now expected brutal death of eight tambourines. Really, I toyed with putting this in my list and I am not 100% sure I am right, but I think cutting 20 minutes would actually be a good thing. And I'd hate to break it to you guys but by the next tour PJ may need a "bigger name" opener to help sell out the arenas. That addition will move the opener slot from a 45 minute set to a full hour, thus cutting the PJ set to closer to 120 minutes.
    admit i didn't read the entire post, but more of a skim and these are the two points that stood out to me most.
    as much as i love release as an opener and YL as the perfect closer, would be nice to vary things a bit. IMO, it's ed. he just can't move past that kinda stuf.
    additionally...you said shorter shows. that was as far as i needed to go. didn't read any further. we are blessed with longer shows from our favorite band.

    i know...kinda simplistic views to your long post, but...what can i say...i'm 50/50 with ya in my response.
  • cd21miller
    cd21miller Columbia, MO Posts: 302
    in some circles, your words might be considered blasphemy.

    disagree -- play all night long. pretty sure 99% of the people on this board are going to say the same. 12-14 shows a year is what we get now? play the whole damn catalog. besides, i need the piss break on the RVM interlude between verses 2-3!

    agree -- hey, ed...let's live a little. why couldn't release be a nice opener for the encore? how about a new fun cover like RITFW that would freshen things up a bit? i've always heard jeff talk about covering an old school AC/DC song...how much fun would that be?

    agree -- give mike more juice. no way should that man be hidden.

    no comment -- the whales? uhh... all i know is that i would be fat and happy, too if i was a front row guy all the time. ;-)
  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    a8l wrote:

    6. Shorter shows.

    you realize you can go home earlier ;)
    PJ: 9/29/04, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/18/13, 8/7/16
    eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
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  • 12345AGNST1
    12345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    shorter sets? what are you? brain dead? :D
    5/28/06, 6/27/08, 10/28/09, 5/18/10, 5/21/10
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  • einatshaul
    einatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Shorter shows?>?????? Delete thread!!!

    Kiddin', but yeah, make 'em tighter, just 4 hours long :)
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  • yellowled24
    yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    How To Make Friends And Influence People.....

    you have no idea.....most of what you said puzzled me. We all know you want a reaction, but whingeing about the "whales in the first 5 rows" is ridiculous! Being a 10c member entitles you to have those good seats, plus if they are such big fans to be going to every show then let them be!!
    If I could be a whale up the front I would, 'cept im skinny and cant afford to go to every show :rolleyes:

    Uh, also, play shorter shows? :confused: Are you mad??
    "....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    I wish I could be in the front row......

    in fact, I just want to go to a show this tour!!! :(
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • einatshaul
    einatshaul Posts: 2,219
    a8l wrote:
    Turn Mike up! Not the mic, but Mike! I can't hear the guy live unless I plug my ears to drown out the drone. Turn him up....! I mean waaaay up. And in a side bar it would be great if McCready could revert to his '98-'02 form. (And yes I understand there might be factors outside of his control affecting his play, if that is the case I understand).

    This is the only thing I agree with. The rest is not cool.
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  • hiding103006
    hiding103006 Posts: 452
    i agree with pretty much everything here, except... shorter shows.

    man pearl jam is a fantastic live band, and they've built up that reputation because of a great live prowess. if i'm going to see this band, i want to see as many songs as they can fit into 2 1/2 hours (or however long).

    short shows are for opening acts, and old men.



    and also... Lollapalooza was.... "embarassing" ?!?!?!???
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  • einatshaul
    einatshaul Posts: 2,219
    Calling people fat is not cool... Grow up.
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  • Keiran
    Keiran Posts: 393
    a8l wrote:
    40+, fat, white, females in the front rows at a PJ show.

    Damn, that's good to know. I've never been to a PJ show before but if I'm ever lucky enough to attend - at least I know I'll fit in.

    Did someone forget to take their anti-asshat pill tonight?
    I wish a guy like Eddie, would like me.
  • yellowled24
    yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    Keiran wrote:
    Damn, that's good to know. I've never been to a PJ show before but if I'm ever lucky enough to attend - at least I know I'll fit in.

    Did someone forget to take their anti-asshat pill tonight?
    :D LMFAO!!!!
    "....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
  • BlackCorduroy
    BlackCorduroy Posts: 1,374
    you had me until shorter shows.. thats just plain crazy
  • given2fly10
    given2fly10 Posts: 485
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    I wish I could be in the front row......

    in fact, I just want to go to a show this tour!!! :(
    go to europe if ya wanna be in the front row, crowds sound way better on boots. west coast, i'll see ya there :)
    And he still gives his love, he just gives it away, The love he receives is the love that is saved, And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky, A human being that was given to fly

    no bed=no brian

    coke sucks
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    "less whales..."

    haha, wow...good stuff.

    anyway, i would like to hear YL toward the end of the set, before the first encore.


    Esther's here and she's sick?

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  • hopethatuchoke
    hopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    Fantastic post other than the shorter shows part. With everything else you hit the nail right on the head so hard there is blood coming out. What's also great about it is all the kiss ass apologists haven't started calling you an asshole (yet). Get ready for it, i'm sure once the sun comes up they will stop by to call you a jerk.
  • acutejam
    acutejam Posts: 1,433
    Wow -- a few good points in there (Mike LOUDER; c'mon Jeff you've played it a million times, stop cuttin into the chorus a few bars early...)

    You overlooked the craptacular "quality" shirts of recent years... I have Hanes Beefy Tees from the 80s (and apparently SO DO THEY) that are still going strong and STILL FIT. After airfare, hotel, tickets, meals and what not, yeah -- I actually am willing to take out the second mortgage and drop $80 - $140 for a pro jersey or something substantial with a PJ on it ... that fits me.

    Esp if I can't come home and buy a boot!
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Comparing '06 to '03 to '00.. '06 was the TIGHTEST by far, so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about or what single crappy boot you're basing this info on.
  • given2fly10
    given2fly10 Posts: 485
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Comparing '06 to '03 to '00.. '06 was the TIGHTEST by far, so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about or what single crappy boot you're basing this info on.
    the 00 boots are alot better, the band was finally a band and it showed, the europe leg of 00 is better then 06 by a mile.
    And he still gives his love, he just gives it away, The love he receives is the love that is saved, And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky, A human being that was given to fly

    no bed=no brian

    coke sucks

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