College Football 2008
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South of Seattle wrote:I'd love Utah to beat Florida. Watch Urban Meyer cry.
honestly, it doesn't look like anybody can beat Florida right now. they're rolling on both sides of the ball. there next two games are FSU and Bama which should be two exciting games.6/11/08 WPB
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stylo17 wrote:honestly, it doesn't look like anybody can beat Florida right now. they're rolling on both sides of the ball. there next two games are FSU and Bama which should be two exciting games.
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Oklahoma took down Tx Tech! wow!
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South of Seattle wrote:The Bama game will be awesome
hell yeah. I think UF is just way too fast for everyone else.
What's the new Top 5 of the BCS now that Texas Tech is getting destroyed?6/11/08 WPB
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stylo17 wrote:hell yeah. I think UF is just way too fast for everyone else.
What's the new Top 5 of the BCS now that Texas Tech is getting destroyed?
IMO
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. USC
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South of Seattle wrote:IMO
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. USC
6. Utah
I like that a lot, but can you really put USC at #5 when they aren't even #1 in their own conference?6/11/08 WPB
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stylo17 wrote:I like that a lot, but can you really put USC at #5 when they aren't even #1 in their own conference?
They have a better record than Oregon St.
Plus after next weekend. Oregon st. won't be number one in the conference. :cool:NERDS!0 -
cutback wrote:being a sc fan i'm torn.....on the one hand, i love nothing more than going to the rose bowl game and watch sc humiliate some poor big 10 team
however, this year, i'd prefer to be an at large bcs team and go against florida or alabama....and humiliate them
Oddly, as an Ohio State fan, I was happy to see Penn State win for similar reasons. If Oregon St. gets the Rose Bowl bid, that's going to be a shit game... similar to when Illinois landed in the Rose Bowl despite not deserving any CS bid. I much prefer Ohio State in the Capital One Bowl, likely against Alabama or Georgia (I'm sure Florida will beat Alabama, they are so dominant right now it is unbelievable). OSU gains nothing from beating Oregon St. in the Rose Bowl, and nobody needs a chance to regain credibility like Ohio State does right now. Plus, it'd be a chance to break their SEC-bowl game curse. I hope Florida wins out though... I can't handle watching them dismantle OSU again!she was underwhelmed, if that's a word0 -
stylo17 wrote:I like that a lot, but can you really put USC at #5 when they aren't even #1 in their own conference?
Can you really put Oklahoma ahead of Texas when Texas already beat Oklahoma? It's not like BCS rankings ever make complete sense she was underwhelmed, if that's a word0 -
I don't think OSU could beat either UGA or Bamaunifiedscene wrote:I much prefer Ohio State in the Capital One Bowl, likely against Alabama or Georgia (I'm sure Florida will beat Alabama, they are so dominant right now it is unbelievable). OSU gains nothing from beating Oregon St. in the Rose Bowl, and nobody needs a chance to regain credibility like Ohio State does right now. Plus, it'd be a chance to break their SEC-bowl game curse.I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...
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NewDamage wrote:I don't think OSU could beat either UGA or Bama
Perhaps, perhaps not, but even playing them well gets them more respect than anything they could do to Oregon St. Nobody thought Michigan could beat Florida in the Capital One bowl last year either.she was underwhelmed, if that's a word0 -
Ohio State can't get any respect in that regard unless they defeat an SEC team. Even if they played them close, and lost, the media would still harp on their inability to defeat an SEC team. I don't think they'd get embarrassed by either Bama or UGA in the fashion they did against the Gators or LSU, however.unifiedscene wrote:Perhaps, perhaps not, but even playing them well gets them more respect than anything they could do to Oregon St. Nobody thought Michigan could beat Florida in the Capital One bowl last year either.
Otherwise, how can you really say they don't get respect? They are media darlings much like So. Cal. They were pre-season #2, based on what? They are currently the highest ranked 2-loss team. All they have to do every year is win out in the Big 10. Let's be honest, with their talent level it shouldn't be that difficult. There are good teams in the Big 10 (MSU, Northwestern, Iowa) but no one outstanding. You can argue Penn State, and they are having a great season, but they aren't consistently dominant.
They'll probably meet UGA though, considering I think the loser of the SEC title game will receive an at-large berth in a BCS game.I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...
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NewDamage wrote:Ohio State can't get any respect in that regard unless they defeat an SEC team. Even if they played them close, and lost, the media would still harp on their inability to defeat an SEC team. I don't think they'd get embarrassed by either Bama or UGA in the fashion they did against the Gators or LSU, however.
Otherwise, how can you really say they don't get respect? They are media darlings much like So. Cal. They were pre-season #2, based on what? They are currently the highest ranked 2-loss team. All they have to do every year is win out in the Big 10. Let's be honest, with their talent level it shouldn't be that difficult. There are good teams in the Big 10 (MSU, Northwestern, Iowa) but no one outstanding. You can argue Penn State, and they are having a great season, but they aren't consistently dominant.
They'll probably meet UGA though, considering I think the loser of the SEC title game will receive an at-large berth in a BCS game.
They were the pre-season #2 because they went to the title game last year with a very young/rookie team... they returned a lot of people from that team. That said, they only got to that game last year because the Big Ten was weak, and their team this year is good, but not great. I say they don't get respect because people love to hate them. There is no team as reviled as Ohio State that I can think of. They brought part of it on themselves... they choked against Florida, big time. It wasn't even a game. That hurt them. Then they slipped in last year and people were outraged due to the bad taste in their mouth from the prior season. It wasn't their fault, but god knows you didn't hear about how Oklahoma and WVU choked and blew their shot at the title game, only about how OSU snuck in unfairly and got beat by a team nobody thought they could beat. It's a weird case of being overrated and disrespected. The polls give them too much credit, the fans not enough. Though they should be the highest ranked 2-loss team... both of those losses were to top-10 teams ahead of them in the polls.
I think a strong showing against an SEC team is good for Ohio State. Not as good as a win. But they could lose by a field goal to Georgia and it will be better for them than going to the Rose Bowl and beating Oregon St by 30. I'm not saying that would happen, I'm just saying it's how it is.she was underwhelmed, if that's a word0 -
unifiedscene wrote:They were the pre-season #2 because they went to the title game last year with a very young/rookie team... they returned a lot of people from that team. That said, they only got to that game last year because the Big Ten was weak, and their team this year is good, but not great. I say they don't get respect because people love to hate them. There is no team as reviled as Ohio State that I can think of. They brought part of it on themselves... they choked against Florida, big time. It wasn't even a game. That hurt them. Then they slipped in last year and people were outraged due to the bad taste in their mouth from the prior season. It wasn't their fault, but god knows you didn't hear about how Oklahoma and WVU choked and blew their shot at the title game, only about how OSU snuck in unfairly and got beat by a team nobody thought they could beat. It's a weird case of being overrated and disrespected. The polls give them too much credit, the fans not enough. Though they should be the highest ranked 2-loss team... both of those losses were to top-10 teams ahead of them in the polls.
I think a strong showing against an SEC team is good for Ohio State. Not as good as a win. But they could lose by a field goal to Georgia and it will be better for them than going to the Rose Bowl and beating Oregon St by 30. I'm not saying that would happen, I'm just saying it's how it is.
One could argue that Oklahoma State should be ranked ahead of Ohio State. Their two losses were to the #1 and 2 teams at the time (Texas and Texas Tech, respectively) and they play in a much tougher conference.
I have to admit I was very surprised when my Gators dismantled Ohio St. in the title game two years ago. That Florida team was good, but I didn't think they were a championship team going in. A lot of people thought Michigan should have gotten the nod, and of course the Gators only made it because UCLA defeated So. Cal.
I think the hostility from fans definitely comes from seeing them as overrated. Many college football fans, especially from this part of the country, don't respect the Big 10. We have a tendency to see the SEC as the be all, end all of college football. Hell, even my alma mater, THE USC Gamecocks jumped all over Ohio State in the Outback Bowl in the 2001/2002 season and then were able to survive a late comeback. Then the Buckeyes went on their title run the following season. It goes back a bit. The Gamecocks beat them 2 years in a row, plus with what Florida and LSU did against them in the biggest game of the year, shows the country whether fairly or unfairly that they are the best team in a 2nd tier conference. If they somehow manage to defeat a well-respected SEC program like Georgia in the postseason, I agree some of that might let up a bit.I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...
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NewDamage wrote:One could argue that Oklahoma State should be ranked ahead of Ohio State. Their two losses were to the #1 and 2 teams at the time (Texas and Texas Tech, respectively) and they play in a much tougher conference.
I have to admit I was very surprised when my Gators dismantled Ohio St. in the title game two years ago. That Florida team was good, but I didn't think they were a championship team going in. A lot of people thought Michigan should have gotten the nod, and of course the Gators only made it because UCLA defeated So. Cal.
I think the hostility from fans definitely comes from seeing them as overrated. Many college football fans, especially from this part of the country, don't respect the Big 10. We have a tendency to see the SEC as the be all, end all of college football. Hell, even my alma mater, THE USC Gamecocks jumped all over Ohio State in the Outback Bowl in the 2001/2002 season and then were able to survive a late comeback. Then the Buckeyes went on their title run the following season. It goes back a bit. The Gamecocks beat them 2 years in a row, plus with what Florida and LSU did against them in the biggest game of the year, shows the country whether fairly or unfairly that they are the best team in a 2nd tier conference. If they somehow manage to defeat a well-respected SEC program like Georgia in the postseason, I agree some of that might let up a bit.
Good point, I'd forgotten Ok St.
I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder I suppose. The Ohio State team that showed up to play Florida 2 seasons ago is not the team that had played all season and anyone who saw them that year knows it. But they went into the championship and it was clear from about play 2 that they had been listening to and believing their own hype and acted like Florida should have just surrendered. Losing their biggest speed threat (Ginn) on the first play didn't help. But the bottom line was Ohio State looked like shit, and Florida tore them apart. They beat OSU in every aspect of that game. It was a humiliation for the program, given how much hype had led up to that point. Michigan got dismantled by USC that year as well, I think. So it was a piss poor showing for the country's 1-2 Big Ten teams.
I'm not a huge partisan though. The Big Ten is weak these days, no doubt. And OSU's bowl record against the SEC speaks for itself. My problem is that against any other conference, OSU does just fine, and generally against the SEC the Big Ten does fine. Plus, Oklahoma's bowl game record is pathetic and they also walked into a title game or two only to get smoked... but nobody talks shit about them or says they don't belong playing with the big guys. If they hadn't choked in the Big 12 championship, they'd have been getting their asses handed to them by LSU last season.
When it comes down to it though, the only way to change it is on the field, and so far OSU hasn't done that. Maybe they'll have better luck against Georgia. I hope so. The good news is that Pryor seems to be giving the team some swagger for the first time since that game against Florida. He's currently their best asset and biggest liability.
I pity Alabama and whoever wins the Big 12. Florida looks pretty unstoppable these days.she was underwhelmed, if that's a word0 -
Agree with everything but the Pryor statement. Beanie Wells is their greatest asset. He can make our weak line look good.Thats one aspect of the team thats lacking. Glad Brewster got the shot to jell with Pryor though.Long time believer of too much media attention place on the Bucksunifiedscene wrote:Good point, I'd forgotten Ok St.
I have a bit of a chip on my shoulder I suppose. The Ohio State team that showed up to play Florida 2 seasons ago is not the team that had played all season and anyone who saw them that year knows it. But they went into the championship and it was clear from about play 2 that they had been listening to and believing their own hype and acted like Florida should have just surrendered. Losing their biggest speed threat (Ginn) on the first play didn't help. But the bottom line was Ohio State looked like shit, and Florida tore them apart. They beat OSU in every aspect of that game. It was a humiliation for the program, given how much hype had led up to that point. Michigan got dismantled by USC that year as well, I think. So it was a piss poor showing for the country's 1-2 Big Ten teams.
I'm not a huge partisan though. The Big Ten is weak these days, no doubt. And OSU's bowl record against the SEC speaks for itself. My problem is that against any other conference, OSU does just fine, and generally against the SEC the Big Ten does fine. Plus, Oklahoma's bowl game record is pathetic and they also walked into a title game or two only to get smoked... but nobody talks shit about them or says they don't belong playing with the big guys. If they hadn't choked in the Big 12 championship, they'd have been getting their asses handed to them by LSU last season.
When it comes down to it though, the only way to change it is on the field, and so far OSU hasn't done that. Maybe they'll have better luck against Georgia. I hope so. The good news is that Pryor seems to be giving the team some swagger for the first time since that game against Florida. He's currently their best asset and biggest liability.
I pity Alabama and whoever wins the Big 12. Florida looks pretty unstoppable these days.
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I actually think Oklahoma matches up better against the Gators than anybody else. Both offenses are efficient as hell. The knock on the Big 12 has been the defensive play of its top teams, and that might make the difference in a UF/OU matchup. But if Florida had a tough time getting pressure on Bradford then it could get interesting. In the end I think Texas will get the nod in the Big 12 south. Then of course if Mizzou somehow beats them things will get really crazy.unifiedscene wrote:I'm not a huge partisan though. The Big Ten is weak these days, no doubt. And OSU's bowl record against the SEC speaks for itself. My problem is that against any other conference, OSU does just fine, and generally against the SEC the Big Ten does fine. Plus, Oklahoma's bowl game record is pathetic and they also walked into a title game or two only to get smoked... but nobody talks shit about them or says they don't belong playing with the big guys. If they hadn't choked in the Big 12 championship, they'd have been getting their asses handed to them by LSU last season.
When it comes down to it though, the only way to change it is on the field, and so far OSU hasn't done that. Maybe they'll have better luck against Georgia. I hope so. The good news is that Pryor seems to be giving the team some swagger for the first time since that game against Florida. He's currently their best asset and biggest liability.
I pity Alabama and whoever wins the Big 12. Florida looks pretty unstoppable these days.
I agree that Pryor has great potential. Things should get interesting in the Big 10 in the coming years, as Rodriguez gets his recruits in at Michigan.
As far as a OSU/UGA matchup, pressuring Stafford is the key. Create turnovers and UGA has one helluva time playing catch up. Alabama and Florida showed that. Plus they have struggled against middle-of-the-road SEC teams Kentucky and Auburn the last couple of weeks.I am lost, I'm no guide. But I'm by your side...
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