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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    It would actually shock me if Ortiz is NOT on the list. I posted the pics of him as a Twin, where he's about 160 pounds. Now check out his HR totals, starting with 2000

    AB HR
    415 10
    303 18
    412 20
    448 31
    582 41
    601 47
    558 54

    and now his knee is falling apart, just like McGwire's and Giambis

    You make a good argument, but in 1997 when that picture was taken he hit 31 home runs in 539 at bats in the minors. He was hurt in 98 and in 99 he hit 30 home runs in 476 at bats. You could easily argue that he hard a hard time adjusting to the major leagues because the Twins wanted him to focus more on playing small ball and the fact he wasn't an everyday player for his power numbers being low the first few seasons in the majors.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • sennin
    sennin Posts: 2,146
    Saturnal wrote:
    Pretty well-mixed between average and great players. That doesn't make much of a case against steroid use. Steroids don't hit the ball for ya.

    About 75% of the time steriods are used to recover from working out and to recover from injuries quicker....NOT to get bigger and stronger necessarily.

    That's why you see guys on the list who aren't in the best of shape....or would be considered powerful men. They got injured, took some roids, and were back on the field 4 days after shoulder surgery.
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Solat13 wrote:
    You make a good argument, but in 1997 when that picture was taken he hit 31 home runs in 539 at bats in the minors. He was hurt in 98 and in 99 he hit 30 home runs in 476 at bats. You could easily argue that he hard a hard time adjusting to the major leagues because the Twins wanted him to focus more on playing small ball and the fact he wasn't an everyday player for his power numbers being low the first few seasons in the majors.

    cmon man u know papi juiced

    everybody did
  • Rayne
    Rayne Posts: 99
    I'm gonna wait for an official release....but TEK?! NO!!! Say it ain't so!
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  • Rayne
    Rayne Posts: 99
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    gosh i love that guy

    ......'scuse me while I Yak.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    cmon man u know papi juiced

    everybody did

    Well, he wasn't on your list, but I guess we'll find out in a half hour or so.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well, he wasn't on your list, but I guess we'll find out in a half hour or so.


    im curious to see how true this list i got is


    but besides lists,, i mean cmon the boy juiced

    not everybody who juiced is gonna be on the list
  • ReleaseMe...
    ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
    Rayne wrote:
    ......'scuse me while I Yak.
    haha you would be saying the same thing as me if he won 2 mvps while on your team
    Mansfield II: # 23, since '03

    routine was the theme..

    there aint gonna be any middle any more
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    here we go
  • Drop The Leash 10
    Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    only one current Sox!!!!!!!!!!! :D
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • roar
    roar Posts: 1,116
    each of the 30 clubs has players involved...nice.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/12/13/mitchell.report.pdf
  • Character Zero
    Character Zero Posts: 96
    I don't know why everyone thinks the Mitchell report is the definitive yes or no on some of these guys.
    There are reports that the Mitchell crew got ahold of many agents and players and requested to speak with them, then when the player wanted to know what for the investigators would not tell them. That is a shady investigation if you ask me.
    Second of all the investigation is going to have a lot to prove in terms of how accurate their information is. They were talking on espn radio this morning that some guys may be implicated because at one point in their careers they wrote checks to Radomski. The Mitchell investigation asked players about checks they had written as much as 10 years ago and they didn't remember. It is commonplace in base for players to buy meals and that nature for their teamates and clubhouse attendants to go pick them up. Some guys could get implicated in this because they wrote a check for this ass jack to pick up pizza for the team 10 years ago.
    I'm skeptical about this report for sure. I'm sure many of the people on the list did do roids, but they are going to have to cover how they found it pretty clearly.
    I was taught a month ago to bide my time and take it slow, but then I learned just yesterday to rush and never waste a day. Now I'm convinced the whole day long that all I've learned is always wrong. Things are true that I forget, but no one taught that to me yet
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,013
    no way is that list not bias only 1 current red sox i agree with nypj1 ortiz looks like he fucking eats steroids for breakfast, like i said the whole record books should just have *****************************across the last 20yrs .....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    this is like watching paint dry
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    So the report is out but i'm looking for a list of people named. Has anyone seen a site that has posted that yet?
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Now it doesn't matter anymore does it?

    You can't take HRs away from Bonds when he faced pitchers that were doing steroids also.

    This needs to go away before it destroys the game any further. It's probably too late.

    I've criticized Bonds and Sosa and Mac for years but now, I'm taking it all back. It just doesn't fucking matter now does it?

    Let the records stand. It's now a moot point.

    Doesn't our government have other issues more relevant to oversee?
    the Minions
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    No "Pujols" found in the document....whew
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,712
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Now it doesn't matter anymore does it?

    You can't take HRs away from Bonds when he faced pitchers that were doing steroids also.

    This needs to go away before it destroys the game any further. It's probably too late.

    I've criticized Bonds and Sosa and Mac for years but now, I'm taking it all back. It just doesn't fucking matter now does it?

    Let the records stand. It's now a moot point.

    Doesn't our government have other issues more relevant to oversee?
    Should it be reclassified as 'sports entertainment'?
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    this is like watching paint dry

    typical politician....love to hear themselves talk...:)

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