2007 New England Patriots

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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    elvistheking44 wrote:
    Wow...I just checked out the Pats schedule to see if they had a legite shot at going unbeaten....They should....what a week ass schedule they have had all year....aside from the Colts and Cowboys who have they played? They should beat the Dolphins, Jets, Bills twice by a shitload of points...come on! Aside from possibly the Steelers and maybe Giants who else do they play...nobody! IF they do go unbeaten there should be two asterisks by them....caught as cheaters and pussy ass schedule!

    based on 2006 team records, the pats had the 3rd toughest schedule.

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  • Flagg
    Flagg Posts: 5,856
    jimed14 wrote:
    A 10-0 49ers team lost to a 3-7 Rams team back in the 90s .... it can happen.

    Which is why they continue to play well into the 4th quarter, to keep their focus, to continue to improve.

    Yet, people still whine about running up the score.

    People just don't get it.


    It can happen, but it won't. They are going undefeated unless they are playing all third-stringers against the Giants in week 17, and then, maybe.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Poncier wrote:
    Have you seen the schedule of the 1972 undefeated Miami Dolphins?
    2, count 'em 2 teams with winning records, and they were 8-6.
    Tha Pats will have played a team that should be 14-2 (Dallas), probably 13-3 (Colts), both on the road, as well as a probable 11-5 Pittsburgh team and likely 10 or 11 win Giant team. Additionally Cleveland, SD, Was and Phil may all be .500 or better.
    So its not as weak as you perceive.

    and the pats whooped the chargers when people still thought they were going to be a super bowl contender and not a pathetic pretender.

    also, in 1972 there was no salary cap. there was no free agency. the defensive rules were no where near as strict as they were today.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    JSBE wrote:
    and the pats whooped the chargers when people still thought they were going to be a super bowl contender and not a pathetic pretender.

    also, in 1972 there was no salary cap. there was no free agency. the defensive rules were no where near as strict as they were today.

    not sure where you're going with the comments about the defensive rules being different in 72, that applys to all teams ...

    but indeed, the free agency and salary cap rules allowed teams like Miami, and more notably Pittsburgh to amass juggernaut teams and not lose ANY of their talent to other teams ... huge difference to the current ladscape of pro football.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    jimed14 wrote:
    not sure where you're going with the comments about the defensive rules being different in 72, that applys to all teams ...

    but indeed, the free agency and salary cap rules allowed teams like Miami, and more notably Pittsburgh to amass juggernaut teams and not lose ANY of their talent to other teams ... huge difference to the current ladscape of pro football.

    to be honest, i'm not sure where i was going with that either. i was more in the flow of typing than thinking i guess...but i guess i just meant to say it was a different style of game.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    COULD BE THE GREATEST FOOTBALL TEAM OF ALL TIME. they will probably go undefeated and squash some records and win the super bowl.








    * fined in the beginning of the year for cheating.
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    jlew24asu wrote:

    * fined in the beginning of the year for cheating.

    ok. they were caught taping defensive signals (aka cheating). we get it. they were fined and lost a draft pick. move on already.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    JSBE wrote:
    ok. they were caught taping defensive signals (aka cheating). we get it. they were fined and lost a draft pick. move on already.

    what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.
  • rearviewmiror
    rearviewmiror Posts: 894
    What a joke, an asterisk? Because they got caught cheating against the lowly Jets? So the rest of the season post cheating is deserving of an asterisk because of the 1st half vs. the Jets?

    Wow, again this is one of the reasons they are pounding teams so bad, people piling on.
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  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    I hate the patriots. They are not even in my conference (GIANTS), but their fans are obnoxious and I am surrounded by them (I live in MA) and no team should be this good.

    Its like the niners and cowboys back in the day. they were the best so they were not liked. nobody likes a winner who keeps on winning.

    that said, asterisk my ass. they were caught week two, doing the same shit they all do. Besides, they are not just beating teams with last minute field goals, they are embarrassing them. seriously, teams cannot stop them at all. they score at will. its fucked up. I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. 85 bears were all defense. the niner teams and cowboy teams were balanced, but they didnt dominate like this. if they keep this up, they have to be considered the greatest team of all time. they are not winning 24-20 games (minus colts), they are winning 56-10, 38-7, 52-7, etc. Domination.

    GO JAGS!
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    I hate the patriots. They are not even in my conference (GIANTS), but their fans are obnoxious and I am surrounded by them (I live in MA) and no team should be this good.

    Its like the niners and cowboys back in the day. they were the best so they were not liked. nobody likes a winner who keeps on winning.

    that said, asterisk my ass. they were caught week two, doing the same shit they all do. Besides, they are not just beating teams with last minute field goals, they are embarrassing them. seriously, teams cannot stop them at all. they score at will. its fucked up. I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. 85 bears were all defense. the niner teams and cowboy teams were balanced, but they didnt dominate like this. if they keep this up, they have to be considered the greatest team of all time. they are not winning 24-20 games (minus colts), they are winning 56-10, 38-7, 52-7, etc. Domination.

    GO JAGS!

    for the record ... 49ers, cowboys .... cheated.

    went outside the rules of salary cap to get the teams they had .... no asterisks there.

    none of this means diddly poo(1) if they don't win the superbowl ...

    so, what will be the spread when they play the Dolphins? 20? 24? off the board?


    (1) - Jim Mora quote there ...
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  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    no team should be this good. ...
    seriously, teams cannot stop them at all.
    they score at will.
    its fucked up.
    I have watched the NFL since I was born 33 years ago, and I have never seen a team this awesome. .

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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.

    a figurative asterisk (aka "*") is one of the dumbest things ever created.

    it is what the media creates to drum up controversy and viewer/readership and what haters of certain players, teams, coaches, etc create to use as a crutch when trying to explain or rationalize their hatred of a player, team, coach, etc.

    does anyone that dislikes the pats have anything constructive to offer to the argument other than "they are cheaters?"

    yeah, i didn't think so.

    pats fans have accepted the unfortunate fact that they were caught breaking nfl rules (videotaping defensive signals, aka - cheating) because the commish handed down his fine to the pats, to belichick and took away their 2008 first round draft pick (but thanks 49ers for sucking ass this year, bob kraft will send you a thank you card and a gift basket for the top 5-10 pick next year).
  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).



    Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    JSBE wrote:
    pats fans have accepted the unfortunate fact that they were caught breaking nfl rules (videotaping defensive signals, aka - cheating) because the commish handed down his fine to the pats, to belichick and took away their 2008 first round draft pick (but thanks 49ers for sucking ass this year, bob kraft will send you a thank you card and a gift basket for the top 5-10 pick next year).

    actually, with the Jets and the Rams winning this week, and the 49ers still losing, we may be up to a #2 pick by now! :D

    it does highlight something ... the pats are just smart ... smug and cocky, yeah ... but, c'mon ...

    they traded thier #1 pick in 2007 (28 overall) to the 49ers last year for the 49ers first round pick in 2008 and the 49ers 4th round pick in the 2007 draft.

    Oh, then the Pats turned around and traded that EXACT same 4th round pick to Oakland for Randy Moss. And now, they'll probably be in the top 5 of the '08 draft, which they'll turn into a bunch of other good stuffs (no way they keep that pick) .... the depth they've achieved by trading down has been unbeleivable.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what are you getting defensive for? they cheated. plan and simple. this team will go down in history as one of the best ever. and will have an asterisk. deal with it.

    Stick to politics....I tell you what if and when they win the SB you put that **** on the Patriots cause I can Gaaurantee the League will never place it on them. This ain't Barry Bonds and baseball, it's football the modern day version of a gladiator sport.

    Rock NEP, Rock on.

    Peace
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Corey Erven wrote:
    they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).



    Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.

    Since you appear to consider them not that good, at you feel that they're good enough to reach the AFC championship.

    We shall see.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    g under p wrote:
    Stick to politics....I tell you what if and when they win the SB you put that **** on the Patriots cause I can Gaaurantee the League will never place it on them. This ain't Barry Bonds and baseball, it's football the modern day version of a gladiator sport.

    Rock NEP, Rock on.

    Peace


    The asterisk has already been placed.

    "modern day gladiator sport" ..............where we throw a yellow kleenex when a quarterback gets touched in the head.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Corey Erven wrote:
    they have played two good teams all year and barely won both games. colts lost the game (pats didnt really win it) and dallas fought with them up until the fourth quarter (score didnt show how close of a game it really was).



    Im calling a patriots loss in the afc championship.

    Must be a Stillers fan ?
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  • UpSideDown
    UpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Must be a Stillers fan ?


    No way, hate the squeelers.

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