But you notice that none of this whining, excuses, racism card is associated with Boller - the QB - the most prominent postion on the field. Or from the white head coach?
Dude, I mean the answer is right in your statement.
Perhaps because the white guys weren't the subject of racist comments from the white officials. Yeah maybe.
how much more clutching and grabbing were the patriots gonna get away with? if it were for all these penalties the ravens had, patriots should've blown this game out. but they didn't... maybe it's because the ravens did indeed play a good game.
give the credit to the ravens dude. just be happy your team won.
I don't recall any major non calls on the Pats, at least no major complaining from Balt. WR's, Bolller or coaches - no replays, etc.
Of course we're happy. Pats fans here are giving credit to the Ravens - they played great, it's just the Pat hating dweebs here are whining about too many penalties and timeouts, etc. They feed into the whining thug Raven players.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
Dude, I mean the answer is right in your statement.
Perhaps because the white guys weren't the subject of racist comments from the white officials. Yeah maybe.
lol, and how HUGE would this scenario be if it was a WHITE official saying that?
Dude, I mean the answer is right in your statement.
Perhaps because the white guys weren't the subject of racist comments from the white officials. Yeah maybe.
no I meant the Whining - no dumb quotes from Boller or Billick. Despite all their critics, those guys are being classy. I loved the kisses to Harrison.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
This situation should not be overlooked. You're in Baltimore Ryan, so I'm sure there is more info on this there...is there any proof of this that can be sent to the league (I read that one of the officials was calling the defenders "boy"), and if so that official should be fired immediately.
The Bart Scott show is on tonight and I usually listen to it on my way to bowling, but I can't b/c my car is in the shop...maybe it'll be on the bus. The flag throwing incident has to be one of the top funniest things I have seen on the football field in quite sometime...it almost made it worth watching the Pats win again. Anyway I will do my best to pay attention to this, since my job is to look at, among other things, racism in sports.
Also let's not forget that the Pats definitely cheated in the past so while the Jets thing didn't help them in that particular game, who's to say tendencies weren't noted from prior games. I hate him for many reasons but Belichek is a very organized coach, and to think that their prior indescretions haven't helped him to this point is kind of silly don't you think?
Anyway the Steelers do hit hard just not Ravens hard (they were at full 13-3 strength this week with both DBs, JO, and others back). However, their offense is about 1000 times better than B'more's so who knows. I just don't see the Pats losing to them for some reason...mostly b/c every time the Pats look down under Belichek they come back and beat the crap out of whoever they play the next week.
no I meant the Whining - no dumb quotes from Boller or Billick. Despite all their critics, those guys are being classy. I loved the kisses to Harrison.
I don't recall any major non calls on the Pats, at least no major complaining from Balt. WR's, Bolller or coaches - no replays, etc.
Of course we're happy. Pats fans here are giving credit to the Ravens - they played great, it's just the Pat hating dweebs here are whining about too many penalties and timeouts, etc. They feed into the whining thug Raven players.
i'm referring to the holding that happens on every play for every team. i thought it was widely known. something that we've come to accept about football. just like basketball and flopping. soon it will be baseball and steroids. j/k
i didn't think much about the ravens penalties... but i can sympathize for their frustrations. wouldn't you be pissed? i would. ravens played superb against them... they really did. i guess if they were going to have all these penalties and not be able to stop the patriots on the 4th down conversions than they should've thought of winding the clock down when they had those 2 earlier possessions. i still feel that the patriots should've lost... just like the cowboys should've lost to the bills. cowboys got very very very lucky on that game... so did the patriots.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
I don't recall any major non calls on the Pats, at least no major complaining from Balt. WR's, Bolller or coaches - no replays, etc.
Of course we're happy. Pats fans here are giving credit to the Ravens - they played great, it's just the Pat hating dweebs here are whining about too many penalties and timeouts, etc. They feed into the whining thug Raven players.
besides Ray-Murder, who may or may not have been present for the death of another human, who on that defense is actually a thug? Just because they play rough (football is a contact sport) doesn't make you a thug. If you are going to argue that then the Pats are just as thug-like, if not more so than the Ravens, (Merriweather, Harrison, late-hit Wilfork, and others). The thing that makes your defense great-ish (not quite but pretty damn good) is that it can be intimidating.
That and T.O. pouring popcorn into his facemask on Thursday made for very funny bookends to this weekend's football.
I'm still waiting for him to go off and do something just ridiculous like fake-use the football as a heroin needle against the Eagles or something. He's been too well behaved this season for me to feel comfortable.
yes I did - some black players unfortunately don't help curtail racism or stereotyping by their actions - even from black officials. If indeed that is the case here allegedly.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
besides Ray-Murder, who may or may not have been present for the death of another human, who on that defense is actually a thug? Just because they play rough (football is a contact sport) doesn't make you a thug. If you are going to argue that then the Pats are just as thug-like, if not more so than the Ravens, (Merriweather, Harrison, late-hit Wilfork, and others). The thing that makes your defense great-ish (not quite but pretty damn good) is that it can be intimidating.
This is quite true, and intimidation is clearly part of the Raven's game plan as well as the Pat's. (especially Harrison).
The Ravens hit hard, their D when healthy is still at or near the top of the league. Belichick just gushes over Ed Reed (funny quotes from Brady this week saying Reed better run after the game ends or Belichick is gonna try and sneak him on to the plane, and Belichick would like to adopt Reed, "Ed Belichick").
The 2 defenses and the coaches are not that dissimilar. Be certain that Belichick would enjoy a week where he had a bye week with the Pats and was given the Ravens' defenive coordinator job for one game.
You can't be a finesse player in 9 of the 11 defensive positions. (CB to an extent can be, Deion Sanders had a hall of fame career while never making a real tackle).
Both teams are sore today, I guarantee.
besides Ray-Murder, who may or may not have been present for the death of another human, who on that defense is actually a thug? Just because they play rough (football is a contact sport) doesn't make you a thug. If you are going to argue that then the Pats are just as thug-like, if not more so than the Ravens, (Merriweather, Harrison, late-hit Wilfork, and others). The thing that makes your defense great-ish (not quite but pretty damn good) is that it can be intimidating.
i wouldn't be intimidated by any football pro-bowler if i were a football player and as big as them. i'd probably have the same spirit that a dude like steve smith of the panthers, or marion barber of the cowboys. i wouldn't be scared for shit. even if the game were close... i think i'd be the kind of player that would play at best. that being said, i can't understand why teams allow other teams to beat them mentally.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
besides Ray-Murder, who may or may not have been present for the death of another human, who on that defense is actually a thug? Just because they play rough (football is a contact sport) doesn't make you a thug. If you are going to argue that then the Pats are just as thug-like, if not more so than the Ravens, (Merriweather, Harrison, late-hit Wilfork, and others). The thing that makes your defense great-ish (not quite but pretty damn good) is that it can be intimidating.
I'm referring to the players getting into the official faces in a threatening manner, throwing the flag into the stands, lying flat in the middle of the field in disbelief, etc. Yes, certainly there are Pats players who have pulled similar crap in the past.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
I think Owens when he is not pulling the off field crap like he did in Philly is quite entertaining.
When he grabbed the pom-poms from a 49er cheerleader after scoring a few years back, it was perhaps the funniest celebration I've ever seen. The popcorn was a very funny image as well.
The man is a great talent, and if he focuses on football and having fun, he's a joy to watch.
I don't condone the placing of the ball on the star at Dallas when he was Niner, thats too much of a direct taunt, but its kind of funny to see how Cowboy fans love him so much now. Pain has no memory.
I think Owens when he is not pulling the off field crap like he did in Philly is quite entertaining.
When he grabbed the pom-poms from a 49er cheerleader after scoring a few years back, it was perhaps the funniest celebration I've ever seen. The popcorn was a very funny image as well.
The man is a great talent, and if he focuses on football and having fun, he's a joy to watch.
I don't condone the placing of the ball on the star at Dallas when he was Niner, thats too much of a direct taunt, but its kind of funny to see how Cowboy fans love him so much now. Pain has no memory.
all of those things are funny and entertaining - but I hate to see it because so many people use those shenanigans against black people. Did you see Moss's postgame interview? He had the pimp suit and shades and said some funny things. He is really smart and articulate though just from hearing him speak. I guess this is off topic.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
I think Owens when he is not pulling the off field crap like he did in Philly is quite entertaining.
When he grabbed the pom-poms from a 49er cheerleader after scoring a few years back, it was perhaps the funniest celebration I've ever seen. The popcorn was a very funny image as well.
The man is a great talent, and if he focuses on football and having fun, he's a joy to watch.
I don't condone the placing of the ball on the star at Dallas when he was Niner, thats too much of a direct taunt, but its kind of funny to see how Cowboy fans love him so much now. Pain has no memory.
woah woah woah...i became a fan of TO because of the star celebration, that was the best thing ever. but then again i am a fan of any athlete who tries to break the norm even if its against my team.
Did you see Moss's postgame interview? He had the pimp suit and shades and said some funny things. He is really smart and articulate though just from hearing him speak. I guess this is off topic.
But is that really any different than say Joe Namath wearing the big fur coat in the 70's?
I think Owens when he is not pulling the off field crap like he did in Philly is quite entertaining.
When he grabbed the pom-poms from a 49er cheerleader after scoring a few years back, it was perhaps the funniest celebration I've ever seen. The popcorn was a very funny image as well.
The man is a great talent, and if he focuses on football and having fun, he's a joy to watch.
I don't condone the placing of the ball on the star at Dallas when he was Niner, thats too much of a direct taunt, but its kind of funny to see how Cowboy fans love him so much now. Pain has no memory.
i could be kicked out of philly for saying this, but i still love TO. he IS a joy to watch and a great talent - you summed it up well.
even when he was taunting us here in philly a few weeks back....well what did people expect? if you don't want him to celebrate, keep him out of the end zone.
woah woah woah...i became a fan of TO because of the star celebration, that was the best thing ever. but then again i am a fan of any athlete who tries to break the norm even if its against my team.
I like most of his celebrations, find him original and funny...but that was just too much of a taunt for me.
Though I must admit I found it quite funny when he scored there as an Eagle and placed the ball on the little star in the end zone. To me that was a very clever move. Running to midfield as a Niner was over the line I thought.
i could be kicked out of philly for saying this, but i still love TO. he IS a joy to watch and a great talent - you summed it up well.
even when he was taunting us here in philly a few weeks back....well what did people expect? if you don't want him to celebrate, keep him out of the end zone.
what was t.o.'s celebration on the eagles a few weeks ago?? i don't remember.
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i could be kicked out of philly for saying this, but i still love TO. he IS a joy to watch and a great talent - you summed it up well.
even when he was taunting us here in philly a few weeks back....well what did people expect? if you don't want him to celebrate, keep him out of the end zone.
T.O. and Moss are going to end up as 2 of the most prolific WR's ever to play the game and we have the opportunity to watch them both concurently (and possibly against each other in this year's Super Bowl). Both have had their off field issues, but this season shows that in the right situation, with their focus on the game, they are 2 unbelievable talents. Watching Tom Brady throw to Randy Moss has been something great to see here in NE, even after 3 SB wins, this seems to be even more fun to watch.
ETA: and when the Pats' enjoyed some popcorn in Dallas in response to T.O.'s pregame comments, Owens was not the one who got upset, he took it in stride...Patrick Crayton on the other hand can expect to get jacked up if Dallas plays NE in the Super Bowl.
what was t.o.'s celebration on the eagles a few weeks ago?? i don't remember.
i think he just did that eagle flap thing he did while he was here. then he also got fined for waving a personalized "Terrell Owens Touchdown Towel" on the sidelines.
I like most of his celebrations, find him original and funny...but that was just too much of a taunt for me.
Though I must admit I found it quite funny when he scored there as an Eagle and placed the ball on the little star in the end zone. To me that was a very clever move. Running to midfield as a Niner was over the line I thought.
I was kind of hoping his first TD celebration as a Cowboy would be him kissing the star or something along those lines.
Sorry to high-jack your Patriots thread.
I do agree with your points about TO and Moss though. They are amazing to watch this year now that both are seemingly focused on nothing but football for once.
did the Patriots sell their souls to the devil? come on now, how the fuck is a team this lucky? From the tuck rule to last nights game, I have never seen a team have this many breaks go their way. its fucking unreal to me. four fourth down stops and they dont even stop them. that doesnt even make sense! then, to call that a TD? he was juggling that. watch the video. its there for your own two eyes to see as clear as day.
Giants beat them week 17. remember I said that. I want alllllllllllllllllll the glory for being the only one bold enough. you will all laugh and say this is a stupid thing to say, and I am an idiot, etc, etc, etc. i watch all the giants games and all the patriot games (I get cable from both markets) but the giants front four get pressure. as we have seen the past two weeks, that is the key. throw in a blitz here and there, make them pay for catching the ball, and the Giants have a real shot. the patriots have zero run game. zip. nothing. lets see them go 5 wide december 23rd when its windy and 10 degrees on thursday night.
patriots should hope colts get home field by the way (not going to happen unless they give it to them), as the patriots are the ones built to win in a dome this year and the colts are built to win outdoors. jags have a very good shot to beat them in foxboro if it comes down to it.
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Next week will probably be they're best bet at losing. The Steelers have a great running and passing game, and should be able to do the same things rushing as baltimore did, but then we wont see the Kyle Boller mistakes out of Roethlesbereger
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did the Patriots sell their souls to the devil? come on now, how the fuck is a team this lucky? From the tuck rule to last nights game, I have never seen a team have this many breaks go their way. its fucking unreal to me. four fourth down stops and they dont even stop them. that doesnt even make sense! then, to call that a TD? he was juggling that. watch the video. its there for your own two eyes to see as clear as day.
Giants beat them week 17. remember I said that. I want alllllllllllllllllll the glory for being the only one bold enough. you will all laugh and say this is a stupid thing to say, and I am an idiot, etc, etc, etc. i watch all the giants games and all the patriot games (I get cable from both markets) but the giants front four get pressure. as we have seen the past two weeks, that is the key. throw in a blitz here and there, make them pay for catching the ball, and the Giants have a real shot. the patriots have zero run game. zip. nothing. lets see them go 5 wide december 23rd when its windy and 10 degrees on thursday night.
patriots should hope colts get home field by the way (not going to happen unless they give it to them), as the patriots are the ones built to win in a dome this year and the colts are built to win outdoors. jags have a very good shot to beat them in foxboro if it comes down to it.
FS keep praying maybe try getting on your knees and see if they will come through.
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Perhaps because the white guys weren't the subject of racist comments from the white officials. Yeah maybe.
I don't recall any major non calls on the Pats, at least no major complaining from Balt. WR's, Bolller or coaches - no replays, etc.
Of course we're happy. Pats fans here are giving credit to the Ravens - they played great, it's just the Pat hating dweebs here are whining about too many penalties and timeouts, etc. They feed into the whining thug Raven players.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
no I meant the Whining - no dumb quotes from Boller or Billick. Despite all their critics, those guys are being classy. I loved the kisses to Harrison.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
so it was a black official? that makes it better?
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
Also let's not forget that the Pats definitely cheated in the past so while the Jets thing didn't help them in that particular game, who's to say tendencies weren't noted from prior games. I hate him for many reasons but Belichek is a very organized coach, and to think that their prior indescretions haven't helped him to this point is kind of silly don't you think?
Anyway the Steelers do hit hard just not Ravens hard (they were at full 13-3 strength this week with both DBs, JO, and others back). However, their offense is about 1000 times better than B'more's so who knows. I just don't see the Pats losing to them for some reason...mostly b/c every time the Pats look down under Belichek they come back and beat the crap out of whoever they play the next week.
I do not know which one was supposed to have said the stuff.
i didn't think much about the ravens penalties... but i can sympathize for their frustrations. wouldn't you be pissed? i would. ravens played superb against them... they really did. i guess if they were going to have all these penalties and not be able to stop the patriots on the 4th down conversions than they should've thought of winding the clock down when they had those 2 earlier possessions. i still feel that the patriots should've lost... just like the cowboys should've lost to the bills. cowboys got very very very lucky on that game... so did the patriots.
yes I did - some black players unfortunately don't help curtail racism or stereotyping by their actions - even from black officials. If indeed that is the case here allegedly.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
The Ravens hit hard, their D when healthy is still at or near the top of the league. Belichick just gushes over Ed Reed (funny quotes from Brady this week saying Reed better run after the game ends or Belichick is gonna try and sneak him on to the plane, and Belichick would like to adopt Reed, "Ed Belichick").
The 2 defenses and the coaches are not that dissimilar. Be certain that Belichick would enjoy a week where he had a bye week with the Pats and was given the Ravens' defenive coordinator job for one game.
You can't be a finesse player in 9 of the 11 defensive positions. (CB to an extent can be, Deion Sanders had a hall of fame career while never making a real tackle).
Both teams are sore today, I guarantee.
it's just stupid IMO.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
I'm referring to the players getting into the official faces in a threatening manner, throwing the flag into the stands, lying flat in the middle of the field in disbelief, etc. Yes, certainly there are Pats players who have pulled similar crap in the past.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
When he grabbed the pom-poms from a 49er cheerleader after scoring a few years back, it was perhaps the funniest celebration I've ever seen. The popcorn was a very funny image as well.
The man is a great talent, and if he focuses on football and having fun, he's a joy to watch.
I don't condone the placing of the ball on the star at Dallas when he was Niner, thats too much of a direct taunt, but its kind of funny to see how Cowboy fans love him so much now. Pain has no memory.
all of those things are funny and entertaining - but I hate to see it because so many people use those shenanigans against black people. Did you see Moss's postgame interview? He had the pimp suit and shades and said some funny things. He is really smart and articulate though just from hearing him speak. I guess this is off topic.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
even when he was taunting us here in philly a few weeks back....well what did people expect? if you don't want him to celebrate, keep him out of the end zone.
Though I must admit I found it quite funny when he scored there as an Eagle and placed the ball on the little star in the end zone. To me that was a very clever move. Running to midfield as a Niner was over the line I thought.
ETA: and when the Pats' enjoyed some popcorn in Dallas in response to T.O.'s pregame comments, Owens was not the one who got upset, he took it in stride...Patrick Crayton on the other hand can expect to get jacked up if Dallas plays NE in the Super Bowl.
I was kind of hoping his first TD celebration as a Cowboy would be him kissing the star or something along those lines.
Sorry to high-jack your Patriots thread.
I do agree with your points about TO and Moss though. They are amazing to watch this year now that both are seemingly focused on nothing but football for once.
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Giants beat them week 17. remember I said that. I want alllllllllllllllllll the glory for being the only one bold enough. you will all laugh and say this is a stupid thing to say, and I am an idiot, etc, etc, etc. i watch all the giants games and all the patriot games (I get cable from both markets) but the giants front four get pressure. as we have seen the past two weeks, that is the key. throw in a blitz here and there, make them pay for catching the ball, and the Giants have a real shot. the patriots have zero run game. zip. nothing. lets see them go 5 wide december 23rd when its windy and 10 degrees on thursday night.
patriots should hope colts get home field by the way (not going to happen unless they give it to them), as the patriots are the ones built to win in a dome this year and the colts are built to win outdoors. jags have a very good shot to beat them in foxboro if it comes down to it.
FS keep praying maybe try getting on your knees and see if they will come through.
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