Tipping in the service industry

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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    They refill my drinks and take away the dirty plates, so I always leave 2-3 bucks.

    exactly
    hot tea is fresh and always coming
    used dirty plates are removed

    nice atmosphmere with that chinese style music
    all while relaxing like a big fat hog

    well worth a couple bucks left on the table
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    dunkman wrote:
    when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.


    wait....with you're disdain for america well documented, why on earth would you want to come here? ;)
  • They refill my drinks and take away the dirty plates, so I always leave 2-3 bucks.

    I have done pretty much aspect of the service industry from bar service to serving hors d'oeuvres to Prince Edward :rolleyes: :p and I hated doing buffett work, all that set up and crap and probably the most under appreciated server in the industry.

    If we want to talk about unfair wages almost everyone that works in seniors' homes are GROSSLY under paid. They should be making the millions not overpaid CEO's pissing people's money away.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    chadwick wrote:
    yeti sperm, good one.
    that is funny.

    at a self serve chinese buffet place i will (not every time) leave a couple extra bucks either on the table or at the register.

    reason being is this.
    i just ate like a hog, the food was great, and it only cost me 10 bucks.
    hence the common courtesy i try to spread.

    it is not required but i feel it is a good thing to do for myself and the restaurant just cause i'm a good fuckin guy.

    to each their own.

    what common courtesy? you paid the advertised price to eat at their restaurant... what courtesy did they give back? nothing... they charged you for the food.


    tip McDonalds staff do you?
    tip a bus driver?
    tip a dentist's lowly paid assistant?
    tip garbage men every week they do their job?
    tip the greenkeeper on a golf course over there do they?
    tip miners? what about farmhands? truck drivers?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    cutback wrote:
    wait....with you're disdain for america well documented, why on earth would you want to come here? ;)

    because dunkman wants to go to hollywood and become a porn star?

    he will be the first kilt wearing dude in american porn with a bulky bag-pipe, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    dunkman wrote:
    what common courtesy? you paid the advertised price to eat at their restaurant... what courtesy did they give back? nothing... they charged you for the food.


    tip McDonalds staff do you?
    tip a bus driver?
    tip a dentist's lowly paid assistant?
    tip garbage men every week they do their job?
    tip the greenkeeper on a golf course over there do they?
    tip miners? what about farmhands? truck drivers?

    i need a gd tip.
    how about tipping us broke ass poor ass college students?
    i'd like to come home everyday with some nice little wad on green in my pocket.
    but no, fuck no.
    i get screwed over ;)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    chadwick wrote:
    exactly
    hot tea is fresh and always coming
    used dirty plates are removed

    nice atmosphmere with that chinese style music
    all while relaxing like a big fat hog

    well worth a couple bucks left on the table


    all that says to me, and maybe its cultural, is that "hey look at me, I'm american, i will leave a small tip as i'm american and you're chinese and we are much richer than you"

    i know in your case you're not saying that... but thats how i 'see' it...

    I'd hate to be in a job that meant i had to be nice as fuck all the time in the hope they leave me a big tip... i'd feel like a cheap prostitute, hanging onto the hope of a nice tip from someone i couldnt really care about it. horrible.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    dunkman wrote:
    what common courtesy? you paid the advertised price to eat at their restaurant... what courtesy did they give back? nothing... they charged you for the food.


    tip McDonalds staff do you?
    tip a bus driver?
    tip a dentist's lowly paid assistant?
    tip garbage men every week they do their job?
    tip the greenkeeper on a golf course over there do they?
    tip miners? what about farmhands? truck drivers?

    I'm pretty sure we covered all things to 'justify' not tipping, last year Dunk :rolleyes: You are a master of non tipment, and the justification therefore of not feeling the need to partake in the custom of tip-itation, that the rest of mankind happily goes about without ever feeling any great ill, or side affects from may I add.
    You are, I am at odds to point out, simply a mean, tight fisted, stereotypical Scotsman ;):p:D
    Still, it's a personal choice :)
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    cutback wrote:
    wait....with you're disdain for america well documented, why on earth would you want to come here? ;)

    1. to revolutionise the food service industry
    2. you have immense rollercoasters
    3. to spread the word of Scotland.
    4. see if some people really are that fat in real life
    5. appear in a porno, in ohhh lets say, Hollywood
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    what common courtesy? you paid the advertised price to eat at their restaurant... what courtesy did they give back? nothing... they charged you for the food.


    tip McDonalds staff do you?
    tip a bus driver?
    tip a dentist's lowly paid assistant?
    tip garbage men every week they do their job?
    tip the greenkeeper on a golf course over there do they?
    tip miners? what about farmhands? truck drivers?


    are you talking about all restaurants now?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    jamie uk wrote:
    I'm pretty sure we covered all things to 'justify' not tipping, last year Dunk :rolleyes: You are a master of non tipment, and the justification therefore of not feeling the need to partake in the custom of tip-itation, that the rest of mankind happily goes about without ever feeling any great ill, or side affects from may I add.
    You are, I am at odds to point out, simply a mean, tight fisted, stereotypical Scotsman ;):p : D
    Still, it's a personal choice :)

    ah you get me wrong... its not that i wont tip, its that its expected I'll tip... and that irks me. i also dont like the 'defence' of the system on here... its a totally shit system and it cannot be justified to me. :) but i'm ok with tipping as a gesture but not because i might hurt someones feelings by tipping them 2.72$ less than they thought i was going to.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    are you talking about all restaurants now?

    i suppose.

    tip Wendy's staff?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    dunkman wrote:
    all that says to me, and maybe its cultural, is that "hey look at me, I'm american, i will leave a small tip as i'm american and you're chinese and we are much richer than you"

    i know in your case you're not saying that... but thats how i 'see' it...

    I'd hate to be in a job that meant i had to be nice as fuck all the time in the hope they leave me a big tip... i'd feel like a cheap prostitute, hanging onto the hope of a nice tip from someone i couldnt really care about it. horrible.


    i understand your view.
    this is why i couldn't do the job.
    and it is a difficult job working with the public.
    i have zero patience for most difficult people.
    i'd be like, fuck off...eat your damn food and get out.

    the chinese restuarant owners (if new to this country) probably do not pay taxes anyway
    they are most likely better off financially than i am.

    when foreigners’ like that move here they do not pay taxes for like 5-8 years.
    if memory serves me correctly, the government buys them a house and a car.

    at least that's how it was 15 years ago.
    (im not an expert at this stuff so do not quote me word for word, but i am close to being accurate i do believe so, yes.)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dunkman wrote:
    i suppose.

    tip Wendy's staff?


    No, because they make the actual minimum wage set by that state's standards. Servers do not.
  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    dunkman wrote:
    ah you get me wrong... its not that i wont tip, its that its expected I'll tip... and that irks me. i also dont like the 'defence' of the system on here... its a totally shit system and it cannot be justified to me. :) but i'm ok with tipping as a gesture but not because i might hurt someones feelings by tipping them 2.72$ less than they thought i was going to.

    Ok, fair enough. As long as you're not just a meanie ;)
    personally, I don't worry about expectations, or 'the system'..I do as I feel is right and proper.
    I used to always give the refuse guys a drink at xmas, but one time I was in the garden and I over heard one of them tell another to put back an old carpet I had put out to be taken, saying it wasn't their job.....ok, no tip for the refuse guys, let's play by the rule book if you want fellas.
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    No, because they make the actual minimum wage set by that state's standards. Servers do not.

    so you know what state pays which minimum wage then? this makes it even more complex... we have a national minimum wage here.. its easier... so a wendys guy in Idaho might earn less than one in Nebraska. so do you tip the Idaho guy the extra to make it up?


    and Crazy Mary has just said she gets $9 an hour basic wage... and yet she wants tips on top of that. the Wendys staff probably dont even get that as their basic minimum hourly wage and they guys bust a fucking gut.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    so you know what state pays which minimum wage then? this makes it even more complex... we have a national minimum wage here.. its easier... so a wendys guy in Idaho might earn less than one in Nebraska. so do you tip the Idaho guy the extra to make it up?


    and Crazy Mary has just said she gets $9 an hour basic wage... and yet she wants tips on top of that. the Wendys staff probably dont even get that as their basic minimum hourly wage and they guys bust a fucking gut.



    I'm going by Florida's min wages. It's 6-7 dollars an hour but servers make 3.77 dollars an hour.


    But servers also do more than the average fast food worker when it comes to customers. Around here anyway.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,822
    chadwick wrote:
    i understand your view.
    this is why i couldn't do the job.
    and it is a difficult job working with the public.
    i have zero patience for most difficult people.
    i'd be like, fuck off...eat your damn food and get out.

    the chinese restuarant owners (if new to this country) probably do not pay taxes anyway
    they are most likely better off financially than i am.

    when foreigners’ like that move here they do not pay taxes for like 5-8 years.
    if memory serves me correctly, the government buys them a house and a car.

    at least that's how it was 15 years ago.
    (im not an expert at this stuff so do not quote me word for word, but i am close to being accurate i do believe so, yes.)

    WTF, are you chanelling Archie Bunker?
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    WTF, are you chanelling Archie Bunker?

    no sir,
    it was just an experience i had at a job orientation many moons ago.
    i became friends with some asian islanders who were hired as i was to work
    at this certain company. they all told me this story i just typed out up above.
    no taxes, cars, and housing is the deal they all received.
    rather it is 100% fact, i do not know.
    it is only what i was told by them.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce