2007 Yankees

1STmammal2wearPants · February 2007

watch out for matsuzaka.

Bathgate66 · February 2007

1STmammal2wearPants wrote:

watch out for matsuzaka.

dont believe the hype. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Red Sox better watch out for Kei Igawa , who led all of Japan Leagues in strikeouts and who throws a few crazy pitches in his arsenal as well.

intodeep · February 2007

So anyone else upset with this kid already?

the guy hasn't seen an infirmary he doesn't like. him and Pavano must hang out together.

Champagne Breakfast · February 2007

not an A-Rod fan but mark my words....
A-ROD is gonna go off this year. Possible contract year for him, he seems focused and from what I read he's already blasting the hell out of the ball.
Monster year

Bathgate66 · February 2007

LOL
New Derek Jeter Collectible Topps Card

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/501111p-422573c.html

President and Mantle pop up on Topps' gag baseball card

BY ANTHONY McCARRON
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Topps takes a swing at comedy with its Derek Jeter card, digitally adding President Bush and Mickey Mantle.

It's hard to Topps this one: The card company has issued a Derek Jeter baseball card with a smiling President Bush in the stands.
But there's something very wrong with that picture: Bush wasn't really at the game that day.

A not-so-careful analysis of the card makes it clear that Bush was digitally superimposed - his right arm extended in a waving motion and his left arm seemingly missing.

The mischievous elves at Topps then played another version of Where's Waldo - sticking a picture of Mickey Mantle in the dugout.

The Mick is depicted in uniform, holding a bat as though he were back from the dead and preparing to pinch hit.

"Somewhere in between the final proofing and its printing, someone at our company - and we won't name names - thought it would be funny to put in Bush and Mantle," said Clay Luraschi, a spokesman for Topps.

When the cards were proofread, Luraschi said, "We couldn't do anything but laugh.

"Okay, it's in the set and it's funny," Luraschi conceded. "It's caused quite a stir."

Jeter's card, No. 40 in the set, instantly becomes part of the card-collecting hobby's "long tradition of silly little error cards or odd prints that have taken on a lot of mileage in hobby lore," said T.S. O'Connell, the editor of Sports Collector's Digest, a 33-year-old weekly publication.

"For collectors, there's a real giggle factor for something like that," O'Connell said.

It's possible the Jeter card could join cards such as the 1969 Topps Aurelio Rodriguez, which features a photo of a bat boy instead of the Angels infielder, and the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken, which showed Cal Ripken's little brother holding a bat that had an obscenity scrawled on the handle, as hobby icons.

Of course, as O'Connell says, printing the wacky card is also "benign guerrilla marketing, however it was done, accident or otherwise."

Alex Gregg, owner of Alex's MVP Cards on the upper East Side, said the images of Bush and Mantle could slightly bump up the value of the Jeter card; the card's currently going for about $2 on eBay.

If a collector got both Jeter and Bush to autograph the card, it could send the value skyrocketing, Gregg said.

"It could be worth $500. Who knows?" Gregg said.

While the card has made news in the card collectors' world, Jeter is apparently in the dark.

Asked about the card, Jeter said, "Oh yeah? I haven't heard anything about it. I have no idea."

Luraschi said Topps hasn't heard anything from the Bush administration about the card - even though using the likeness of Bush for a commercial enterprise requires the White House's permission.

A White House spokesman would only say, "I'll decline to comment at this point."

It's unclear whether the card will ever be corrected - Luraschi said a decision hasn't been made whether to erase Bush and Mantle in the cards that will be sold as part of complete sets.

"I'm not sure George has seen the card," Luraschi said. "I'd be happy to send him a box."

bostonlou · February 2007

was reading stuff last night

they want to know if it's too early for this joke

"If A-Rod was in the plane with Cory Lidle, they wouldn't of hit anything"

Bathgate66 · February 2007

bostonlou wrote:

was reading stuff last night

they want to know if it's too early for this joke

"If A-Rod was in the plane with Cory Lidle, they wouldn't of hit anything"

:eek:d'oh:eek:

NCBRI · February 2007

Champagne Breakfast wrote:

not an A-Rod fan but mark my words....
A-ROD is gonna go off this year. Possible contract year for him, he seems focused and from what I read he's already blasting the hell out of the ball.
Monster year

All I care about is whether he does it in the postseason. That's when this team has needed him the most and he has failed the most. Although, in fairness, he isn't the only one who has fallen durring the playoffs over the last few years.

gregkitefan · February 2007

BetterManningNYG wrote:

wang was the cy young runner up last year. he's a legitimate #1 starter regardless of strikeout totals. his lack of strikeouts help keep his pitch count down, which allows torre to rest the bullpen when he pitches. every rotation needs a guy like that.

Was Wang really that good last year or really lucky.
Josh Beckett had 19 quality starts and Wang had 18 quality starts.
Lots of runs and a great closer can make you look better than you really are.
I'm not saying Beckett is a better starter than Wang, but Wang is not A #1 starter.

intodeep · February 2007

gregkitefan wrote:

BetterManningNYG wrote:

wang was the cy young runner up last year. he's a legitimate #1 starter regardless of strikeout totals. his lack of strikeouts help keep his pitch count down, which allows torre to rest the bullpen when he pitches. every rotation needs a guy like that.

Was Wang really that good last year or really lucky.
Josh Beckett had 19 quality starts and Wang had 18 quality starts.
Lots of runs and a great closer can make you look better than you really are.
I'm not saying Beckett is a better starter than Wang, but Wang is not A #1 starter.

I'm a yankee fan and i like wang... but i like him as our 4th starter.. or perhaps a number 3 guy. Maybe the guy will prove me wrong and I would be happy because i like him on the team and I like him as a player, but in a must win game i'd not bet the farm with wang on the mound

But i don't want to sound negative i think he will have a fine year. i coudl see him easily putting up 13-15 wins this season and being a great contributor.

JSBE · February 2007

intodeep wrote:

I'm a yankee fan and i like wang...

must...control...urge...to...make...obvious...joke...

BetterManningNYG · February 2007

gregkitefan wrote:

Was Wang really that good last year or really lucky.
Josh Beckett had 19 quality starts and Wang had 18 quality starts.
Lots of runs and a great closer can make you look better than you really are.
I'm not saying Beckett is a better starter than Wang, but Wang is not A #1 starter.

a few red sox fans have suggested in this thread that he was lucky last year, but you might think differently if you had watched him pitch on a start-to-start basis. when he's on his game, nobody makes solid contact against him. he'll give up a lot of bloop singles, but very few extra base hits... and he induces a lot of double plays.

i really don't believe that the yankees' run support or closer had much of an impact on his 3.63 ERA (which is a very impressive number for an AL east pitcher). you could make that argument for his win total, but didn't beckett also have a great closer last year? papelbon?

and judging by the fact that he managed to win 16 games despite a 5.01 ERA, i would assume that beckett had more than his fair share of run support as well.

and the only reason beckett isn't a yankee right now because they refused to give up wang for him. a good decision, i think.

you can argue against wang as a true number one if you want. but in an era where good pitching is hard to find, i'll gladly take a guy like that (19-6, 3.63 ERA, cy young runner up) as my number one.

BetterManningNYG · February 2007

JSBE wrote:

must...control...urge...to...make...obvious...joke...

dammit... you win this round...

c'mon guys, we have to be better than that...

EDIT: you'll notice in my posts that i have specifically avoided this type of language.

BetterManningNYG · February 2007

Bathgate66 wrote:

It's possible the Jeter card could join cards such as the 1969 Topps Aurelio Rodriguez, which features a photo of a bat boy instead of the Angels infielder, and the 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken, which showed Cal Ripken's little brother holding a bat that had an obscenity scrawled on the handle, as hobby icons.

lol... the infamous billy ripken "FUCK FACE" card. one of my all time favorites. i think i still have it somewhere.

Bathgate66 · February 2007

BetterManningNYG wrote:

lol... the infamous billy ripken "FUCK FACE" card. one of my all time favorites. i think i still have it somewhere.

hilarious

you have got to scan that image for us,...

Fighting Hellfish · February 2007

The misconception about Wang is that he's a softtosser because he doesn't strike people out. But he consistently throws 93, 94, and can even get it up there to 96 on occasion

Bathgate66 · February 2007

he gets alot of ground outs too, no ?

Fighting Hellfish · February 2007

yes, thanks to a devastating sinker.

NCBRI · February 2007

When is the first full spring training game? I read that Pavano will see his first action Sunday against Philly. Between him and Igawa, no one knows what to expect this season. I still think Hughes will be up by the All Star Break.

pjscreamer · February 2007

Two Leftys in starting rotation plus Wang and Moose plus a wild card who 5 starter looking good first preason tomorrow baby.

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