2007 New England Patriots

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    bostonlou wrote:
    a few?

    and we can shrug it off because it never made a difference... and everyone did it ... we just got caught



    why do you come to this thread?


    ok I guess its a conspiracy then that only the Patriots were penalized for cheating. If everyone else was doing it why wasn't anyone else fined? and why was Belli-cheat's fine the largest ever handed down? Can you please explain that to me?

    and how do you know it didn't make a differnence? Its not like all 3 super bowls were blowouts. couldn't have the cheating made a few points difference? yes its possible, maybe thats why the NFL destroyed all evidence so no one could truly find out that the Pats stole 3 titles.

    I came into this thread because I saw you posted Simmons article - I was commenting on the article and the attitude that prevails in the article and amongst Pats fans . Should I have started a whole new thread for it then?
  • So you think the official's were right on those calls specifically listed? That was a terrible game from the ref's. No doubt about it.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    bostonlou wrote:
    i hear the pats are going to scrimmage foxboro pop warner just to stay fresh

    if they don't score 500 BB is going to make them run sprints ;)


    will Rodney Harrison need steroids for that game?
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    So you think the official's were right on those calls specifically listed? That was a terrible game from the ref's. No doubt about it.

    not at all, never said it wasn't a terribly officiated game. Just was commenting on the attitude of Mr. Simmons and what seems to be most Pats fans attitudes.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    pjhawks wrote:
    ok I guess its a conspiracy then that only the Patriots were penalized for cheating. If everyone else was doing it why wasn't anyone else fined? and why was Belli-cheat's fine the largest ever handed down? Can you please explain that to me?

    and how do you know it didn't make a differnence? Its not like all 3 super bowls were blowouts. couldn't have the cheating made a few points difference? yes its possible, maybe thats why the NFL destroyed all evidence so no one could truly find out that the Pats stole 3 titles.

    I came into this thread because I saw you posted Simmons article - I was commenting on the article and the attitude that prevails in the article and amongst Pats fans . Should I have started a whole new thread for it then?

    I'm just curious, were you this worked up when the Broncos were fined 968,000 and 2 third round draft picks for deferring John Elway and Terrell Davis's salaries from 96-98 so that they could sneak more players in under the cap on the teams that won back to back Super Bowls?

    And trust me I dislike the Pats, but the officiating was really one sided on Sunday.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    Solat13 wrote:
    I'm just curious, were you this worked up when the Broncos were fined 968,000 and 2 third round draft picks for deferring John Elway and Terrell Davis's salaries from 96-98 so that they could sneak more players in under the cap on the teams that won back to back Super Bowls?

    And trust me I dislike the Pats, but the officiating was really one sided on Sunday.

    nope for two reasons - number one the Broncos fans (as far as I know, didn't have the access to them that we now have to other teams fans) didn't shrug off their indiscretions with "everyone does it" like the Pats fans seem to be doing. Also you can't tell me you don't find it very hypocritcal for Pats fans to shrug off their cheating, yet on monday they were all bitching about supposed piped in noise and Brady's headset not working.

    2nd reason - the Broncos didn't beat my team in a Super Bowl like the Pats did. is it tainted now - I don't know, but I'd sure as hell like to know if they cheated the Eagles - hard not to believe they didn't.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    pjhawks wrote:
    2nd reason - the Broncos didn't beat my team in a Super Bowl like the Pats did. is it tainted now - I don't know, but I'd sure as hell like to know if they cheated the Eagles - hard not to believe they didn't.

    = sore loser.

    and don't say all Pats fans are saying "everyone else did it" .... no we aren't.

    Pats got caught doing something against the league rules, it's been proven. I openly admit that ... it sucks, I wish they didn't but they did.

    But they were fined. The league ruled on this. If they felt it was something that tainted the Pats win over the Eagles, or anyone else for that matter, they would have. But obviously, it wasn't that serious because they didn't take back any wins, don't want to asterisk anything ...

    The league has ruled ... fine, draft penalty .... case over ...
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    jimed14 wrote:
    = sore loser.

    and don't say all Pats fans are saying "everyone else did it" .... no we aren't.

    Pats got caught doing something against the league rules, it's been proven. I openly admit that ... it sucks, I wish they didn't but they did.

    But they were fined. The league ruled on this. If they felt it was something that tainted the Pats win over the Eagles, or anyone else for that matter, they would have. But obviously, it wasn't that serious because they didn't take back any wins, don't want to asterisk anything ...

    The league has ruled ... fine, draft penalty .... case over ...

    you're making too much sense. a non-pats fan (or pats hater) just doesn't understand rational thinking like that.
  • pjhawks wrote:
    nope for two reasons - number one the Broncos fans (as far as I know, didn't have the access to them that we now have to other teams fans) didn't shrug off their indiscretions with "everyone does it" like the Pats fans seem to be doing. Also you can't tell me you don't find it very hypocritcal for Pats fans to shrug off their cheating, yet on monday they were all bitching about supposed piped in noise and Brady's headset not working.

    2nd reason - the Broncos didn't beat my team in a Super Bowl like the Pats did. is it tainted now - I don't know, but I'd sure as hell like to know if they cheated the Eagles - hard not to believe they didn't.
    Except fpr the fact that the eagles did better in the second half than the 1st. So I doubt they were stealing calls.

    9-0 Roll on Buffalo.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    pjhawks wrote:
    not at all, never said it wasn't a terribly officiated game. Just was commenting on the attitude of Mr. Simmons and what seems to be most Pats fans attitudes.

    i think sports guy is just being his same old boston sports loving fan self and taking issue with the numerous horrible calls that went against the pats because it has not been talked about AT ALL. it makes no sense why the league did not have a veteran ref for the game.

    all i heard after the game was over - all week - from the sports media is "well the colts didn't have harrison and ugoh and other players..." to use a weak excuse. the pats played 60 mins and the colts did not.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    Except fpr the fact that the eagles did better in the second half than the 1st. So I doubt they were stealing calls.

    9-0 Roll on Buffalo.

    actually the game was 7-7 at half, so the 2nd half the Pats actually outscored the Eagles 17-14 so I guess the Pats did better in the 2nd half. if your going to comment at least know your facts.
  • locked
    locked Boston Posts: 4,048
    bostonlou wrote:
    i hear the pats are going to scrimmage foxboro pop warner just to stay fresh

    if they don't score 500 BB is going to make them run sprints ;)

    why can't I PM you anymore..

    you didn't get banned again.. did you?

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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    locked wrote:
    why can't I PM you anymore..

    you didn't get banned again.. did you?

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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    kenshunt wrote:
    Hopefully for a long time lol, let's go Bills
    Shouldn't you be rooting for the Argonauts in their big tilt with the Blue Bombers?
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    Poncier wrote:
    Shouldn't you be rooting for the Argonauts in their big tilt with the Blue Bombers?
    LOL, now that's funny, now let's talk Flutie flakes lmao.
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  • pjhawks wrote:
    actually the game was 7-7 at half, so the 2nd half the Pats actually outscored the Eagles 17-14 so I guess the Pats did better in the 2nd half. if your going to comment at least know your facts.
    Take a pill. The Eagles and the Patriots looked like crap in that 1st half. Wow, a 3 point margin. What an ass kicking. I would say that a 17-14 half is an evenly contested half. I saw it with my eyes.

    They won't give you the ring, and it's lame to whine about it. It was a good game that Philly lost, and it wasn't by cheating. Do you think the league or other teams would've let them get away with that?

    You are the exact reason that the Pats are rolling up on the league now. So every time they drop 50 on some team, know that it's your type of bitterness that brought it on.

    btw I live in Boston but the Pats are my second team. I was brought up a Redskins fan, and have no problem with the Pats ass whooping of my skins. The eagles? Let's just say that if Reid could coach and McNabb could keep it together in a 2 minute drill Philly might have a Super Bowl ring.
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  • NOCODE#1
    NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    Take a pill. The Eagles and the Patriots looked like crap in that 1st half. Wow, a 3 point margin. What an ass kicking. I would say that a 17-14 half is an evenly contested half. I saw it with my eyes.

    They won't give you the ring, and it's lame to whine about it. It was a good game that Philly lost, and it wasn't by cheating. Do you think the league or other teams would've let them get away with that?

    You are the exact reason that the Pats are rolling up on the league now. So every time they drop 50 on some team, know that it's your type of bitterness that brought it on.

    btw I live in Boston but the Pats are my second team. I was brought up a Redskins fan, and have no problem with the Pats ass whooping of my skins. The eagles? Let's just say that if Reid could coach and McNabb could keep it together in a 2 minute drill Philly might have a Super Bowl ring.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    lol...what a bunch of fruads...lol
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  • TrixieCat
    TrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    This is going to be a good game. :)
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    Damn I just turned on the game and it's already 7-0.

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