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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    MrBrian wrote:
    I was reading that Kimi still refuses to back Massa. bad kimi! next is Singaore!
    Apparently the long term forcast is in saying 60% chance of rain for the night race.

    Vettel raced well but it was obvious that the pace car gave him the edge. nevertheless it should take nothing away from his race as he made almost zero mistakes.
    What do you mean the pace car gave him the edge? He kept his qualifying performance going and no one could touch him.
    I heard that about Kimi too but it sounds more like just saving face. He knows and they know that he's done for this year. Shaddup and do your job.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Rygar wrote:
    What do you mean the pace car gave him the edge? He kept his qualifying performance going and no one could touch him.
    I heard that about Kimi too but it sounds more like just saving face. He knows and they know that he's done for this year. Shaddup and do your job.

    Because it was a bit easier under the pace car from a starting point of view. I think he said that himself, but yeah he really did drive his heart out, made no mistakes. Top stuff.

    btw how cool does this look!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DhxsVy9Pis
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    MrBrian wrote:
    Because it was a bit easier under the pace car from a starting point of view. I think he said that himself, but yeah he really did drive his heart out, made no mistakes. Top stuff.

    btw how cool does this look!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DhxsVy9Pis
    Oh yes, sorry I misunderstood. The first lap under the SC was helpful (and necessary IMO, what a mess).

    That looks very cool, should be quite interesting. I really hope it doesn't rain :p
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    good race

    the safety car start definitely took some of the excitement out of the race
    but it did make some sense-id guess a number of cars wouldve been out of the race by the first two corners

    The SC start did help Vettel, but he did race very well-no easy task keeping that pace on the track for the entire race, especially after the switch to intermediate tires.

    nice to see the three young faces of F1 on the podium-good race
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    MrBrian wrote:
    I was reading that Kimi still refuses to back Massa. bad kimi!
    http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/9/8391.html
    hehehe
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Rygar wrote:
    http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/9/8391.html
    hehehe

    haha! Yeah, let's see if he does it. I just don't see Mr Iceman protecting Massa for the championship. Well I don't think he will try his hardest I should say.

    btw it's official, BMW spain are in talks with Alonso for next season.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    MrBrian wrote:
    haha! Yeah, let's see if he does it. I just don't see Mr Iceman protecting Massa for the championship. Well I don't think he will try his hardest I should say.

    btw it's official, BMW spain are in talks with Alonso for next season.
    I wonder how much of Alonso's reputation as a crybaby with MC was actually Hamilton's fault....
    I hope he doesn't get into a head war with Kubica, I respect him.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Rygar wrote:
    I wonder how much of Alonso's reputation as a crybaby with MC was actually Hamilton's fault....
    I hope he doesn't get into a head war with Kubica, I respect him.

    Yeah I was thinking about that, but another interesting note to take, Kubica seems to be having some issues with BMW, he said that he feels like they are helping Nick more (because he's german?)

    I'm sure BMW does not want to lose Kubica, I mean he's a good driver.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah I was thinking about that, but another interesting note to take, Kubica seems to be having some issues with BMW, he said that he feels like they are helping Nick more (because he's german?)

    I'm sure BMW does not want to lose Kubica, I mean he's a good driver.
    Aw, I hadn't heard that. It's nice to see a team with good driver-team relationship. Vettel with STR, Hamilton seems to have it despite not having a helmet big enough to fit his head, and Massa is very well liked at Ferrari. I pretty much thought Kubica was the guy at BMW...
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    what's this all about!
    ----

    Max Mosley has defended his shock news that he favours a common engine era for Formula One.

    The FIA president told the French sports daily L'Equipe this week that the move, also alongside standard suspensions and gearboxes, would put a lid on costs and also make teams' research more road-relevant.

    "F1 should not lose its status for technological excellence," he agrees, "but it has to be investing in useful technologies."

    "I know there are those who say it is not the right move, but I am talking about the real world.

    "If Volkswagen can buy an engine (for a road car) less expensively (than to build one), they will undoubtedly do that. After they put the VW badge on it, it's all the same. This is a reasonable way to view the business. Unless we think very seriously about cutting costs, in the next ten years we will be in trouble," Mosley said.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    MrBrian wrote:
    what's this all about!
    ----

    Max Mosley has defended his shock news that he favours a common engine era for Formula One.

    The FIA president told the French sports daily L'Equipe this week that the move, also alongside standard suspensions and gearboxes, would put a lid on costs and also make teams' research more road-relevant.

    "F1 should not lose its status for technological excellence," he agrees, "but it has to be investing in useful technologies."

    "I know there are those who say it is not the right move, but I am talking about the real world.

    "If Volkswagen can buy an engine (for a road car) less expensively (than to build one), they will undoubtedly do that. After they put the VW badge on it, it's all the same. This is a reasonable way to view the business. Unless we think very seriously about cutting costs, in the next ten years we will be in trouble," Mosley said.


    rip f1 :(
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    MADRID (AFP) - Fernando Alonso will stay at Renault for the 2009 season after the former double champion rejected an offer to move to BMW Sauber, local media reported here Friday.

    Speculation at Monza last weekend where Alonso finished fourth suggested the BMW team were in the driving seat to sign the Spaniard

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/080919/sports/auto_prix_esp_alonso_renault_1
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    cutback wrote:
    rip f1 :(

    I know it's sad even thinking that it could happen.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    McLaren’s Hamilton Spa appeal ruled inadmissible

    The FIA’s International Court of Appeal has thrown out McLaren’s case against Lewis Hamilton’s recent Belgian Grand Prix penalty on the grounds that their appeal was inadmissible.

    Hamilton had 25 seconds added to his Spa race time for gaining an advantage by cutting a chicane whilst fighting Ferrari’s Kimi Raikkonen for the lead. This was given in place of a drive-through penalty, as the incident occurred late in the race, and drive-throughs are not susceptible to appeal under the International Sporting Code.

    McLaren had appealed the stewards' decision, which saw Hamilton drop from first to third in the Belgian results, on the grounds that their driver had relinquished the lead back to Raikkonen immediately following the incident in order to negate any advantage. They also cited the fact that on two occasions race control had told the team that Hamilton’s conduct appeared to be within the rules.

    However, the Court rejected McLaren’s right to appeal, citing Paragraph 5 of Article 152 of the International Sporting Code, which states: “Penalties of driving through or stopping in pit lanes together with certain penalties specified in FIA Championship regulations where this is expressly stated, are not susceptible to appeal.”

    The Court's decision means Hamilton’s championship lead remains at just a single point over Ferrari’s Felipe Massa, who inherited the victory at Spa.

    The International Court of Appeal's decision in full:
    At the Grand Prix of Belgium, run on 7 September 2008, and counting towards the 2008 FIA Formula One World Championship, the Stewards of the meeting imposed a drive-through penalty upon the driver of car No. 22, Lewis Hamilton, for a breach of Article 30.3 (a) of the 2008 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations and Appendix L, Chapter 4, Article 2 (g) of the International Sporting Code.

    As the drive-through penalty was imposed at the end of the race, 25 seconds were added to the driver’s elapsed race time in accordance with Article 16.3 of the FIA 2008 Formula One Sporting Regulations.

    Article 152 of the International Sporting Code states that drive-through penalties are “not susceptible to appeal”.

    The competitor Vodafone McLaren Mercedes appealed the Steward’s decision before the International Court of Appeal in a hearing in Paris on September 22nd.

    Having heard the explanations of the parties the Court has concluded that the appeal is inadmissible.

    The International Court of Appeal was presided over by Mr Philippe NARMINO (Monaco), elected President, and composed of Mr Xavier CONESA (Spain), Mr Harry DUIJM (Netherlands), Mr Thierry JULLIARD (Switzerland) and Mr Erich SEDELMAYER (Austria).
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Um....Go Massa!
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Rygar wrote:
    Um....Go Massa!

    its gonna rain at least once over the weekend! perhaps during qualifying!

    Should be a very interesting race.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    its gonna rain at least once over the weekend! perhaps during qualifying!

    Should be a very interesting race.
    Curse that rain!
    The guy from Force India said it rains there every day, hehe.
    I hope it is clear, I am looking forward to this race as much for the environment itself as for the driving.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Rygar wrote:
    Curse that rain!
    The guy from Force India said it rains there every day, hehe.
    I hope it is clear, I am looking forward to this race as much for the environment itself as for the driving.

    hahahaha

    Im excited, night race, street circuit, cant ask for much more.
    And I get the live feed this time.
    Yee haw!

    Looking at hotels for Montreal 09'! Any suggestions that wont break the bank?
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    hahahaha

    Im excited, night race, street circuit, cant ask for much more.
    And I get the live feed this time.
    Yee haw!

    Looking at hotels for Montreal 09'! Any suggestions that wont break the bank?
    We're thinking the Sandman hotel. It's on the south side of the island, right beside the university Subway station (aka PERFECT).
    We haven't made any plans or anything though, that is a bit annoying.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    I will be checking that out thanks

    Prefer old montreal-for fun.
    We are just starting to put our heads together. The apt we rented this year is no longer available.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    I will be checking that out thanks

    Prefer old montreal-for fun.
    We are just starting to put our heads together. The apt we rented this year is no longer available.
    I agree, but subway access - old montreal in minutes ;)
    How was the apartment?
    I'm not even sure what our group is planning for event seating...
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    Rygar wrote:
    I agree, but subway access - old montreal in minutes ;)
    How was the apartment?
    I'm not even sure what our group is planning for event seating...
    the apt was freaking perfect
    three bedrooms and three couches
    5 guys
    $350 a man for the weekend

    it was perfect and was right in old montreal off rue st. paul
    better than hotel rooms because we could all hang out in the living room
    fridge and kitchen didnt hurt either-very nice

    race tickets are booked, but now we need to find a decent lodging alternative
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    the apt was freaking perfect
    three bedrooms and three couches
    5 guys
    $350 a man for the weekend

    it was perfect and was right in old montreal off rue st. paul
    better than hotel rooms because we could all hang out in the living room
    fridge and kitchen didnt hurt either-very nice

    race tickets are booked, but now we need to find a decent lodging alternative
    Sounds decent!
    Next year should be fun, maybe I"ll try to get an extra day in or something
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    I'm reading a lot of articles about the Singapore race. Seems like everyones excited. I hope the lights don't cut out. That would suck,

    Rain I don't mind as much, just keep the lights on.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    No rain in practice. Massa,Hamiton,Kubica and Alonso were all pretty fast.

    Should be a great race,
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    The track lighting was very bright, may as well have it in the daytime :p
    Going to have a lemans feel.
    Ferrari-McLaren fast practice 1, I was surprised to see Alonso show up in Practice 2.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,107
    MrBrian wrote:
    I'm reading a lot of articles about the Singapore race. Seems like everyones excited. I hope the lights don't cut out. That would suck,

    Rain I don't mind as much, just keep the lights on.

    from what I understand, they have two backup generators ready in case of any failures

    Cant wait to see this, it should be a very interesting spectacle
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right wrote:
    from what I understand, they have two backup generators ready in case of any failures

    Cant wait to see this, it should be a very interesting spectacle
    Agreed.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Nicely done Massa. Got excited when I thought Kimi was going to end up 2nd.
    Screw you Lewis.


    Not too big a fan of the track itself.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    so this is gran turismo come to life? crazy


    and what's with the pit entrance? that might bew a problem during the race

    cars look cool under the lights though :)

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