I guess Trulli was on the the dry tires also, and their lap times were almost the same (20 seconds slower than everyone else).
So I hear
odd though how he only fucked up enough for Hamilton to pass I'm guessing there was more behind it but they'll never admit it. Made for great viewing though
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
odd though how he only fucked up enough for Hamilton to pass I'm guessing there was more behind it but they'll never admit it. Made for great viewing though
I'd say. Lots of people passed Glock at that turn. Hambone passed him on the last turn and finished 5.4 seconds ahead. I was on my feet cheering Vettel on the last two laps
I feel bad for Massa's family and team for celebrating too soon. He's a classy guy.
I'd say. Lots of people passed Glock at that turn. Hambone passed him on the last turn and finished 5.4 seconds ahead. I was on my feet cheering Vettel on the last two laps
I feel bad for Massa's family and team for celebrating too soon. He's a classy guy.
He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.
If Glock had changed his tires he never would have been ahead of Hamhead.
He was certainly dignified and I felt very sorry for them celebrating... musta been horrible. If Glock had changed his tyres successfully it would have been very different though. But I guess a lot of F1 is down to fate and luck so we can't really argue that. But, as Eddie Jordan said, there's no way Schumacher woulda let Vettel past him with 2 laps left.
According to the McLaren team they told Hamilton not to risk anything fighting Vettel as Vettel was faster but that he should be able to overtake Glock.
So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
If Glock had changed his tires he never would have been ahead of Hamhead.
It woulda been close but considering hamilton's tyres weren't doing much for him, he COULD have been!
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
According to the McLaren team they told Hamilton not to risk anything fighting Vettel as Vettel was faster but that he should be able to overtake Glock.
I just read that! Very risky though... and if it's true, must have required a lot of patience and been very frustrating for Hamilton with half a mile to go :eek:
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
exactly!! i've been to his museum/cafe thingy and got to sit in his racing cars :cool:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
neat
I wonder if he's retiring from racing or just going on to rally or something...
maybe he'll try LeMans or something... dont think he'll do rally though
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
great race
exciting way to end the season
although something rubs me the wrong way about giving the championship to a driver that plays it safe to score points rather than win the race-Massa probably was the best driver this year-as much as I hate to admit it.
what a final lap though!
great season all the way around-cant wait for next year and fingers crossed for montreal
great race
exciting way to end the season
although something rubs me the wrong way about giving the championship to a driver that plays it safe to score points rather than win the race-Massa probably was the best driver this year-as much as I hate to admit it.
what a final lap though!
great season all the way around-cant wait for next year and fingers crossed for montreal
I read an article about that today, the author argued that F1 should be based on wins, not consistency, as Massa has 6 wins to Hamilton's 5.
There were 5 drivers would could have competed for the title though, had they been more consistent driving or had a more consistent car throughout the year.
Can't wait for next year.
Organisers of the axed Canadian Grand Prix have slammed F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone as 'unreasonable' and 'unrealistic', after their efforts to rescue the race for 2009 failed.
In a statement and with a press conference on Sunday, they confirmed that Ecclestone turned down a package to reinstate the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve on next year's calendar.
"The unreasonable demands of Formula One exceeded the taxpayer's ability to pay," Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay commented.
Quebec government minister Raymond Bachand added: "We cannot meet Mister Ecclestone's unworkable demands.
"Unless he eases his requirements and adopts a different approach, there will be no Grand Prix in Montreal in 2009."
Bachand also said Ecclestone's multi-million dollar demands were 'unrealistic'.
In the information released publicly on Sunday, the organisers revealed the precise monetary demands contained in Ecclestone's final contract offer, including the need for a government or bank guarantee of $175m over five years.
"Ultimately, no private promoter expressed interest in taking on such a great risk, considering the limited revenue generated by the event," the Canadian officials said.
When faced with a counter-offer, Ecclestone 'refused to budge', they added.
"Faced with this intransigence, he was presented with an enhanced proposal for the 2009 edition, but Mister Ecclestone would not alter his position," the statement explained.
In the accompanying press conference, the officials were no less scathing of the 78-year-old billionaire, but the door to a return in 2010 was left open.
"After 2009, there may be another round of negotiations," Bachand said.
ah well, what can we do.
go to brazil for inter next year hmmm maybe spain,
Bernie Ecclestone is confident his plan to replace the current points system with Olympic Games-style 'medals' will be introduced in time for the 2009 season opener.
The F1 Chief Executive revealed recently he wants the drivers on the podium to be presented gold, silver and bronze medals, rather than awarded ten, eight and six points respectively.
The change, he argues, will rid the sport of the situation of the 2008 series finale in Brazil, where Lewis Hamilton was able to finish just fifth and still be crowned world champion.
If Ecclestone's new system had been in place, the McLaren driver and Felipe Massa would have been tied on five gold medals apiece, setting up a dash to be first to the chequered flag and the title.
It is believed that points will still be awarded to the teams for the constructors' championship on the basis of the current system.
Drivers finishing races 'out of the medals', meanwhile, will not score points, but their finishing positions over the season will determine their championship ranking.
Ecclestone, 78, told The Times: "The FIA and all the teams are behind it and it will be done."
He insists that the system will ensure that the emphasis of the front-running drivers' approach to races will be on winning, rather than scoring good points.
"The whole point will be, when they get to Melbourne for the first race, the guys will want to leave there with a gold medal. They (will not) want to leave with ten, eight or six points," Ecclestone said.
The matter has been discussed by FIA President Max Mosley, but the details are yet to be worked out.
Ecclestone's system will require ratification by the World Motor Sport Council at its December meeting.
Mark Webber has had himself a nasty accident at a charity push bike event. He got hit by a car while riding. The only injury I've heard about is a broken leg. But reports have him as seriously injuried. I'd guessing he'll be racing the clock to be fit for the season opener. I don't like his chances of holding onto his ride if he's out indefinately.
Mark Webber has had himself a nasty accident at a charity push bike event. He got hit by a car while riding. The only injury I've heard about is a broken leg. But reports have him as seriously injuried. I'd guessing he'll be racing the clock to be fit for the season opener. I don't like his chances of holding onto his ride if he's out indefinately.
Initial reports had him having multiple broken limbs, but seems it was just the one leg.
He's to miss winter testing but they think he'll be ready for Australia with time to spare.
Initial reports had him having multiple broken limbs, but seems it was just the one leg.
He's to miss winter testing but they think he'll be ready for Australia with time to spare.
Just reading the lastest. He had a titanium rod inserted into his leg. That'll speed up the recovery.
The following is the full statement from Honda President and CEO Takeo Fukui regarding the firm’s decision to pull out of Formula One...
We, Honda Motor Co., Ltd., have come to the conclusion that we will withdraw from all Formula One activities, making 2008 the last season of participation.
This difficult decision has been made in light of the quickly deteriorating operating environment facing the global auto industry, brought on by the sub-prime problem in the United States, the deepening credit crisis and the sudden contraction of the world economies.
Honda must protect its core business activities and secure the long term as widespread uncertainties in the economies around the globe continue to mount. A recovery is expected to take some time.
Under these circumstances, Honda has taken swift and flexible measures to counter this sudden and expansive weakening of the marketplace in all business areas. However, in recognition of the need to optimize the allocation of management resources, including investment regarding the future, we have decided to withdraw from Formula One participation. We will enter into consultation with the associates of Honda Racing F1 Team and its engine supplier Honda Racing Development regarding the future of the two companies. This will include offering the team for sale.
Saw this on the news this morning. Must be very worrying for the hundreds that could lose their jobs, although they said there is interest in buying the team.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I feel bad for Massa's family and team for celebrating too soon. He's a classy guy.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
According to the McLaren team they told Hamilton not to risk anything fighting Vettel as Vettel was faster but that he should be able to overtake Glock.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
4 months, huh?
exactly!! i've been to his museum/cafe thingy and got to sit in his racing cars :cool:
I wonder if he's retiring from racing or just going on to rally or something...
maybe he'll try LeMans or something... dont think he'll do rally though
exciting way to end the season
although something rubs me the wrong way about giving the championship to a driver that plays it safe to score points rather than win the race-Massa probably was the best driver this year-as much as I hate to admit it.
what a final lap though!
great season all the way around-cant wait for next year and fingers crossed for montreal
There were 5 drivers would could have competed for the title though, had they been more consistent driving or had a more consistent car throughout the year.
Can't wait for next year.
Good on 'em for not letting Ecclestone rape them.
Ecclestone slammed as Canada GP rescue fails
''We cannot meet Mister Ecclestone's unworkable demands''
Organisers of the axed Canadian Grand Prix have slammed F1 CEO Bernie Ecclestone as 'unreasonable' and 'unrealistic', after their efforts to rescue the race for 2009 failed.
In a statement and with a press conference on Sunday, they confirmed that Ecclestone turned down a package to reinstate the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve on next year's calendar.
"The unreasonable demands of Formula One exceeded the taxpayer's ability to pay," Montreal Mayor Gerald Tremblay commented.
Quebec government minister Raymond Bachand added: "We cannot meet Mister Ecclestone's unworkable demands.
"Unless he eases his requirements and adopts a different approach, there will be no Grand Prix in Montreal in 2009."
Bachand also said Ecclestone's multi-million dollar demands were 'unrealistic'.
In the information released publicly on Sunday, the organisers revealed the precise monetary demands contained in Ecclestone's final contract offer, including the need for a government or bank guarantee of $175m over five years.
"Ultimately, no private promoter expressed interest in taking on such a great risk, considering the limited revenue generated by the event," the Canadian officials said.
When faced with a counter-offer, Ecclestone 'refused to budge', they added.
"Faced with this intransigence, he was presented with an enhanced proposal for the 2009 edition, but Mister Ecclestone would not alter his position," the statement explained.
In the accompanying press conference, the officials were no less scathing of the 78-year-old billionaire, but the door to a return in 2010 was left open.
"After 2009, there may be another round of negotiations," Bachand said.
ah well, what can we do.
go to brazil for inter next year
The F1 Chief Executive revealed recently he wants the drivers on the podium to be presented gold, silver and bronze medals, rather than awarded ten, eight and six points respectively.
The change, he argues, will rid the sport of the situation of the 2008 series finale in Brazil, where Lewis Hamilton was able to finish just fifth and still be crowned world champion.
If Ecclestone's new system had been in place, the McLaren driver and Felipe Massa would have been tied on five gold medals apiece, setting up a dash to be first to the chequered flag and the title.
It is believed that points will still be awarded to the teams for the constructors' championship on the basis of the current system.
Drivers finishing races 'out of the medals', meanwhile, will not score points, but their finishing positions over the season will determine their championship ranking.
Ecclestone, 78, told The Times: "The FIA and all the teams are behind it and it will be done."
He insists that the system will ensure that the emphasis of the front-running drivers' approach to races will be on winning, rather than scoring good points.
"The whole point will be, when they get to Melbourne for the first race, the guys will want to leave there with a gold medal. They (will not) want to leave with ten, eight or six points," Ecclestone said.
The matter has been discussed by FIA President Max Mosley, but the details are yet to be worked out.
Ecclestone's system will require ratification by the World Motor Sport Council at its December meeting.
I actually don't mind the new look of the cars.
Nicole Rosberg says she isn't sure about racing if next year at Williams is as big a bust as 2008.
He's to miss winter testing but they think he'll be ready for Australia with time to spare.
Just reading the lastest. He had a titanium rod inserted into his leg. That'll speed up the recovery.
Nah me niether. He's taken to long just to get to where he's at. He'll be stuggling next year to get a look in with Vettel as a team mate.
Those cars better start to look better otherwise I may not watch the new season, haha..never! I must watch!
We, Honda Motor Co., Ltd., have come to the conclusion that we will withdraw from all Formula One activities, making 2008 the last season of participation.
This difficult decision has been made in light of the quickly deteriorating operating environment facing the global auto industry, brought on by the sub-prime problem in the United States, the deepening credit crisis and the sudden contraction of the world economies.
Honda must protect its core business activities and secure the long term as widespread uncertainties in the economies around the globe continue to mount. A recovery is expected to take some time.
Under these circumstances, Honda has taken swift and flexible measures to counter this sudden and expansive weakening of the marketplace in all business areas. However, in recognition of the need to optimize the allocation of management resources, including investment regarding the future, we have decided to withdraw from Formula One participation. We will enter into consultation with the associates of Honda Racing F1 Team and its engine supplier Honda Racing Development regarding the future of the two companies. This will include offering the team for sale.
That sucks, even though I wasn't a Honda fan.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/05122008/58/ecclestone-buyers-interested-honda.html