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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    You guys know as well as I do that the salary cap is BS. Take away incentive laden contracts and signing bonuses and you would have a real salary cap. Then the playing field would be even.

    Just look at Toronto. They probably gross the most cash of any team and don't want to spend it. :) And I am sure they should be able to lure some pretty big names that aren't past their prime here.

    My earlier comment was more for the way NY1 put all the lines together and my eyes bugged out at all the names I knew compared to the Columbus squad. ;)
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  • NY PJ1
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    even flow? wrote:
    You guys know as well as I do that the salary cap is BS. Take away incentive laden contracts and signing bonuses and you would have a real salary cap. Then the playing field would be even.

    Just look at Toronto. They probably gross the most cash of any team and don't want to spend it. :) And I am sure they should be able to lure some pretty big names that aren't past their prime here.

    My earlier comment was more for the way NY1 put all the lines together and my eyes bugged out at all the names I knew compared to the Columbus squad. ;)

    ya gotta spend it all ... brother
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Slats Undecisive

    Agent: Sather Undecided on Peca
    Time for your nightly Michael Peca update:


    In short, the puck remains on Glen Sather's stick and the Rangers' GM has yet to decide whether to shoot or pass.

    "He is thinking about it," was agent Don Meehan's response tonight when I asked him if any progress had been made in his discussions with Sather.

    Meehan insisted that, though he anticipates no problem working out a contract, no conditional agreement has been reached that would be consummated if and when Sather decides he wants Peca to join the Rangers.

    Asked if he would continue to talk just with the Rangers or resume discussions with other teams, Meehan replied: "We will give this a bit more time."

    • The other news of the day was the announcement that former Rangers winger and hockey pioneer Anders Hedberg had rejoined the organization in the role of head European scout.

    No doubt, many of you plugged-in visitors to this spot might be wondering what that means for Christer Rockstrom, the long-time Rangers Euro-whiz who has unearthed so many late-round gems -- including Henrik Lundqvist. The answer is that it won't change Rockstrom's role at all.

    Rockstrom will remain focused upon the draft-eligible Europeans while Hedberg monitors the pro-level players the Rangers might sign as free agents. Undoubtedly, Hedberg and Rockstrom will cross paths and even double up from time to time on certain players. But Hedberg's arrival doesn't mean Rockstrom is leaving.
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  • Bathgate66
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    Alex Bourret wasn't drafted by the Rangers, but he would have been had Marc Staal not dropped into their laps. The Rangers got Bourret anyway when they hoodwinked Atlanta into giving him up for the disposable Pascal Dupuis. If you think the life of an NHL player is a cushy one where he gets to have fun playing the greatest game in the world, have a look at how Bourret has been spending his summer vacation as he gets himself ready to meet the rigors of the highest levels of hockey:



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  • Bathgate66
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    Bulletin

    August 19, 2007
    Jagr Golden, Straka Hobbled, Zaba Inked
    Jaromir Jagr won his third straight Golden Stick award as Czech hockey player of the year, his eighth overall, all within the past thirteen years. He beat out Dominik Hasek, who has won the award five times in the past. Martin Straka came in third -- he was in attendance despite reports that arthroscopic knee surgery would force him to miss last night's award ceremony. Hockey Rodent has an excellent description of Straka's surgery, demonstrating that it was a minor procedure to repair torn meniscus (cartilage). He also has photographs from the Golden Stick ceremony. We hope to have a full report on all this tomorrow.

    In other news, the Rangers have added to their goaltending depth by signing Colorado College graduate Matt Zaba [pictured left]. The Colorado Springs Gazette reports that Zaba "will be competing for a spot for either the Hartford Wolf Pack or the Charlotte Checkers." (Thanks to reader emscam for alerting us to this development.) Having just let three of their own college draftees become free agents by not signing them by the August 15th deadline, the Rangers picked up Zaba after the L.A. Kings allowed him to become a free agent in the same way. Zaba was originally drafted in the eighth round (231st overall) in 2003 by the Kings. To learn more about Zaba, look here, here, and here.
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    from todays nypost



    peca's agent said the nyr MUST DECIDE TODAY about signing him
    he cant wait any longer

    several teams have interest including the blue jackets



    so it looks like we'll know by tonight
  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    from todays nypost



    peca's agent said the nyr MUST DECIDE TODAY about signing him
    he cant wait any longer

    several teams have interest including the blue jackets



    so it looks like we'll know by tonight


    slats dragging his feet on this one,...
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    It's only 1.25 mil, what's the risk really
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    kenshunt wrote:
    It's only 1.25 mil, what's the risk really

    dont think its the money so much as Pecas penchant for finding injuries
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  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    dont think its the money so much as Pecas penchant for finding injuries

    I know what you mean that he might get hurt, but 1.25 is only half what he made last year and even if he gets hurt im sure it prolly won't be a broken leg again.
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    August 21, 2007
    Peca Saga Heads Toward Climax
    The Michael Peca saga will hopefully end today, one way or the other. I suppose we should thank Peca and his agent for giving us something to talk about in an otherwise newsless month. On the other hand, the protracted affair is getting a bit annoying, especially if we're spinning our wheels over what will ultimately turn out to be a non-story, at least from the Rangers' point of view. The latest news is that Peca's agent has set today as the latest deadline for the Rangers to inform him of their intentions with Peca -- which doesn't mean the Rangers, if they are still interested, will sign him today, they may just let Peca know they're still interested.

    Or not. It has been reported that Ranger GM Glen Sather is still deciding between signing Peca to fill the hole at third line center or letting his promising young prospects fight it out for that spot. By delaying, Sather may be letting Peca tip the scales himself by exposing his character, in which case Peca may have just ultimatumed himself out of New York. Then again, if Sather decides he needs Peca, this may be the jump-start he needs to finally make up his mind. We may find out today, or we may not -- that has been the way this Peca thing has been going, and that's why it's been so annoying. See reports today in the Daily News, Newsday, and Post.
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  • stickboy
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    kenshunt wrote:
    I know what you mean that he might get hurt, but 1.25 is only half what he made last year and even if he gets hurt im sure it prolly won't be a broken leg again.
    we can always trade him b4 the deadline like we did Aaron Ward right?
    Im not sure its worth the risk and Id rather give the chance to a youngster...theres too many waiting to bust out anyways...Dawes, Dubinsky, Bourret, Anisimov. Its been a while since we had a GREAT rookie season from an offensive player with the exception of maybe Prucha.
    I dont really care about peca that much..we got leadership so we dont need his.
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  • Bathgate66
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    UPDATE: Michael Peca's agent was just on AM640 radio in Toronto and suggested that Peca has two offers in hand and will decide by the end of the day today which one he will take. No word on which two teams they may be, except that Toronto is not one of them. Is the end finally nigh? [See Pucks on Broadway for a partial transcription of the radio comments.]
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    UPDATE: Michael Peca's agent was just on AM640 radio in Toronto and suggested that Peca has two offers in hand and will decide by the end of the day today which one he will take. No word on which two teams they may be, except that Toronto is not one of them. Is the end finally nigh? [See Pucks on Broadway for a partial transcription of the radio comments.]


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    i bet we sign him
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,432
    so says newsday:

    Passing on Peca



    Not long ago, I endorsed the chase for Peca, figuring the risk on a one-year, cap-friendly deal, was low, even if he was past his prime.

    But I wasn't privy to the results of his interview---or his physical. Maybe the pins and plates in his repaired leg gave the Rangers brass some pause. Would Peca be able to maintain a performance level that the Rangers sought? And why didn't more teams (Leafs) want Peca?

    Maybe the Rangers really wanted to keep the $1-million-plus for another move.
    A strong defenseman, a backup goaltender, or simply wiggle room? Or as the team says, to give some youngsters a shot to stick. Probably a combination of the above.

    If you were a reader here last season, I pushed for the Rangers to trade for a stop-gap thrd line center last season: Smolinski, for example.

    Instead, in the offseason, the Rangers traded Cullen---and he did, according to several sources, make it known that he wouldn't protest being moved---and now are in the hunt again for one.

    Maybe they'll seek to fill that gap at the trade deadline this time around...

    Unless there's a surprise lurking somewhere...
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    August 21, 2007
    Peca Passed Over For Prospects
    It's over at last. The Rangers have decided not to make Michael Peca a free agent contract offer. They have chosen to let their young prospects fight it out for the opening at center at the NHL level. In the process, they also save what little wiggle room they have left under the salary cap, much of which would have been eaten up by Peca. See Blueshirts Blog and Blue Notes for more. Peca chose to sign with Columbus instead, according to TSN.

    Posted by Dubi on August 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM | Permalink | Comments (37)
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  • NY PJ1
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    21 game blue plan Friday, September 21st vs. NJ Devils
    Thursday, October 4th vs. Florida
    Saturday, October 13th vs. Ottawa
    Thursday, October 25th vs. NJ Devils
    Monday, October 29th vs. Tampa Bay
    Thursday, November 1st vs. Washington
    Monday, November 5th vs. Philadelphia
    Thursday , November 8th vs. Pittsburgh
    Monday, December 3rd vs. Carolina
    Thursday, December 6th vs. Toronto
    Sunday, December 16th vs. Phoenix, 5:00PM
    Sunday, December 30th vs. Montreal
    Thursday, January 10th vs. Philadelphia
    Sunday, January 20th vs. Boston, TBD*
    Tuesday, January 22nd vs. Atlanta
    Tuesday, February 5th vs. Los Angeles
    Saturday, February 16 vs. Buffalo, 1:00PM
    Tuesday, March 4th vs. NY Islanders
    Tuesday, March 18th vs. Pittsburgh
    Thursday, March 27th vs. NJ Devils
    Friday, April 4th vs. isles




    22 game white plan
    Friday, September 28th vs. NY Islanders
    Friday, October 12th vs. Washington
    Saturday, October 27th vs. Toronto
    Sunday, November 3rd vs. NJ Devils
    Monday, November 19th vs. NY Islanders
    Sunday, November 25th vs. Dallas, 1:00PM
    Thursday , November 29th vs. NY Islanders
    Sunday, December 9th vs. NJ Devils, 5:00PM
    Tuesday, December 18th vs. Pittsburgh
    Sunday, December 23rd vs. Ottawa
    Wednesday, December 26th vs. Carolina
    Tuesday, January 8th vs. Tampa Bay
    Saturday, January 12th vs. Montreal
    Wednesday, January 16th vs. Buffalo
    Thursday, January 24th vs. Atlanta
    Thursday, February 7th vs. Anaheim
    Sunday, February 17th vs. San Jose, TBD*
    Sunday, February 24th vs. Florida
    Sunday, March 2nd vs. Philadelphia, TBD*
    Sunday, March 9th vs. Boston, TBD*
    Tuesday, March 25 vs. Philadelphia
    Monday, March 31st vs. Pittsburgh

    i like the 22 game plan good western teams and alot of weekend games

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  • stickboy
    stickboy Posts: 2,981
    Bathgate66 wrote:
    August 21, 2007
    Peca Passed Over For Prospects
    It's over at last. The Rangers have decided not to make Michael Peca a free agent contract offer. They have chosen to let their young prospects fight it out for the opening at center at the NHL level. In the process, they also save what little wiggle room they have left under the salary cap, much of which would have been eaten up by Peca. See Blueshirts Blog and Blue Notes for more. Peca chose to sign with Columbus instead, according to TSN.

    Posted by Dubi on August 21, 2007 at 10:02 PM | Permalink | Comments (37)
    thank you!...enjoy him columbus :)
    didnt want him to begin with and besides it goes against the youth movement....we're trying to find guys who are going to replace the Jagrs, and Shannys,...not add more vets to replace in the long run.
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  • Bathgate66
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    true enougH about the youth movement.


    this is the spin at the bulletin :

    The Rangers have decided not to make Michael Peca a free agent contract offer. There appears to be three reasons for the Rangers' decision. The stated one is that want to let their young prospects fight it out for the opening at center at the NHL level rather than go with a 33-year-old who has been plagued by a variety of injuries the past few seasons. Steve Zipay at Blue Notes quotes "a Rangers spokesman" as saying that GM Glen Sather and coach Tom Renney felt it was best "to give our young guys a chance." An unstated but obvious reason for the decision was the salary cap. The Rangers had already traded away their perfectly serviceable third line center, Matt Cullen, to create some wiggle room for in-season moves. Peca would have come with the ability to defer part of those cap savings into the subsequent season's calculation, but it still would have used up roughly half of what they had left under the salary cap.

    But the biggest reason for the move, which is purely speculative on our part, was Peca's reaction to the delay in concluding a Ranger contract, which he believed he had already negotiated. "We had a deal in place with the Rangers for almost three weeks now," Peca told the Columbus Dispatch after he agreed to a contract with the Blue Jackets. "They said they needed a few more days to sort through some things, but we said that just wasn't possible. They had enough time. The deal was pretty close to being done. It was done, really. The coaching staff was on board with it. But, to be honest, it just didn't seem like the commitment has been there from the general manager to get it done. So we moved on."

    Some might believe that Sather was asleep at the wheel, going on vacation rather than locking up Peca. But we believe that Sather purposely let the matter simmer to see how truly committed Peca was to the Rangers' cause vs. just making sure he had a contract. After complaining to the press, publicly trying to leverage interest from the lowly Blue Jackets, and finally setting an ultimatum, Sather had his answer -- the Rangers would be better served in what they hope will be a Stanley Cup run by letting hungry young players duke it out and inject energy into the team than in bringing aboard another veteran coasting into retirement. Those days, it is now clear, are indeed over.

    There is of course still time before the start of training camp for the Rangers to address their needs at center and on defense, and any hole that stands between post-season qualification and a run for the Cup can be filled cheaply at the trade deadline. But the Rangers, by all appearances, will address those needs with care, with an eye toward both this season's aspirations and the long-term well being of the club. For more, see Blueshirts Blog and Blue Notes for more, as well as brief notes in today's Daily News and Post.




    now the looming question will be which of the crop of young forwards gets the call up to the big club - we will see most likely a rotation of a few different guys game in and game out .
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  • stickboy
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    it just made no sense whatsoever...for that Id rather keep Cullen. He was younger, healthier and more of an asset esp. for PP and PK time.
    The only reason why I saw them maybe making a move woulde be to fill the gap for now and then maybe use him as trade bait at the deadline...sathers mentality prolly thinking trade him to a team at that point that needs him more and stockpile some more prospects. Otherwise Peca didnt fit in the grand scheme of things for us.
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