If the 9/11 Conspiracy theories are ever proven?

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  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    69charger wrote:
    Which of these pics is in question for you? They all look pretty normal to me. Some more dramatic than others, but all look very normal.

    NORMAL??? YEAH,OK!!!

    if you think planes just happen to be traveling in criss cross sections for the hell of it and all that shit in the sky is NORMAL then you have a serious problem buddy!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    JamMastaE wrote:
    NORMAL??? YEAH,OK!!!

    if you think planes just happen to be traveling in criss cross sections for the hell of it and all that shit in the sky is NORMAL then you have a serious problem buddy!

    I guess you have no concept of how commercial air traffic control is set up in this country.

    This graphic represents ONE DAY of air traffic in and out of San Fransico.

    http://www.connectedtraveler.com/CT/images/sfairtraffic.jpg

    This represents a snapshot of the amount of traffic on an average day.

    http://glebe.stanford.edu/~stevenlw/files/imagemanagermodule/@random4557cb945f27b/Picture2.png

    Nifty animation to boot.

    http://flightaware.com/analysis/allflights_movie.rvt

    N O R M A L ! ! !

    "Quick to the point to the point no faking
    I'm cooking MC's like a pound of bacon"
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    69charger wrote:
    I guess you have no concept of how commercial air traffic control is set up in this country.

    This graphic represents ONE DAY of air traffic in and out of San Fransico.

    http://www.connectedtraveler.com/CT/images/sfairtraffic.jpg

    This represents a snapshot of the amount of traffic on an average day.

    http://glebe.stanford.edu/~stevenlw/files/imagemanagermodule/@random4557cb945f27b/Picture2.png

    Nifty animation to boot.

    http://flightaware.com/analysis/allflights_movie.rvt

    N O R M A L ! ! !

    "Quick to the point to the point no faking
    I'm cooking MC's like a pound of bacon"

    yes,normal assuming a plane is going from a to b.but what about when the same plane flies back and forth.

    watch this you may change your whole out look on this subject.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407

    if not,whatever,you are free to think the world is flat if you want to,it doesn't change the truth of the matter.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    JamMastaE wrote:
    yes,normal assuming a plane is going from a to b.but what about when the same plane flies back and forth.

    watch this you may change your whole out look on this subject.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407

    if not,whatever,you are free to think the world is flat if you want to,it doesn't change the truth of the matter.

    At 1 hour and 39 minutes I'm afraid I do not have the time to indulge your mental illness. Sorry.

    "Yo man let's get out of here
    Word to your mother"
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    69charger wrote:
    At 1 hour and 39 minutes I'm afraid I do not have the time to indulge your mental illness. Sorry.

    "Yo man let's get out of here
    Word to your mother"

    yes I see,that's why you don't know anything about chemtrails,you don't take the time to educate yourself.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • jamtemplechains
    jamtemplechains Posts: 117
    View any of these links for in-depth debunkings of popular conspiracy theories that prove through educated study by prominent engineers and technical experts these theories hold no water.
    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm


    and this is just fucking HILARIOUS
    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

    Best night of my life. . .
    Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.

    myspace.com/justonemorebottle
  • jamtemplechains
    jamtemplechains Posts: 117
    let me add that i'd love nothing more than to legitimately pin that tragedy to a group of sick, compassionless assholes like the current administration, but to dive head first into a bunch of weak conspiracy theories based on grainy footage and documentaries narrated by charlie sheen??.....I just can't do it.
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

    Best night of my life. . .
    Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.

    myspace.com/justonemorebottle
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    jamtemplechains wrote:
    let me add that i'd love nothing more than to legitimately pin that tragedy to a group of sick, compassionless assholes like the current administration, but to dive head first into a bunch of weak conspiracy theories based on grainy footage and documentaries narrated by charlie sheen??.....I just can't do it.

    Good for you!

    Peace
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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    JamMastaE wrote:
    yes I see,that's why you don't know anything about chemtrails,you don't take the time to educate yourself.

    I know all there is to know about "chemtrails"...

    [whisper]They are fucking contrails[/whisper]

    "Conducted and formed
    This is a hell of a concept"
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    jamtemplechains wrote:
    let me add that i'd love nothing more than to legitimately pin that tragedy to a group of sick, compassionless assholes like the current administration, but to dive head first into a bunch of weak conspiracy theories based on grainy footage and documentaries narrated by charlie sheen??.....I just can't do it.


    the only thing that is weak is your grasp on reality.all the proof behind 9-11 shows that the "official" story is bullshit.

    i don't know of any "grainy footage" except those laughable few frames the government released of the "plane" hitting the pentagon.

    there will always be the brainwashed section of society that wallows in a blissful ignorance because they are unable to cope with such ugly truths.

    this country has been dumbed down so bad that people can no longer read the writing on the wall.

    start practicing your zig hile,in Spanish.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jamtemplechains wrote:
    View any of these links for in-depth debunkings of popular conspiracy theories that prove through educated study by prominent engineers and technical experts these theories hold no water.
    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
    http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm


    and this is just fucking HILARIOUS
    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

    Unfortunately popular mechnics holds no water.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    What will change for the people who died that day and for their families?

    This is the only question that's getting at something important. Personally, I don't think there was a conspiracy, and I've posted my reasons many many times before. And after going through my reasons one-by-one, I usually say something like this:

    Even if it was proven that the government orchestrated 9/11, it wouldn't change anything in my eyes. There are so many other clear, documented examples of this government doing terrible things, that I don't need one more example to convince me any further. So it wouldn't change my opinion of the government, and it wouldn't change my opinion that there is a growing hatred for the U.S. in the world, especially in the Middle East. It wouldn't change my opinion that the threat of terrorism is very real. It happened before 9/11, and it will happen again if the U.S. and others don't change their policies towards Israel and the Middle East in general.
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    69charger wrote:
    I know all there is to know about "chemtrails"...

    [whisper]They are fucking contrails[/whisper]

    "Conducted and formed
    This is a hell of a concept"


    sleeping with eyes open / lifeless but in motion

    driven without notion / ignorance shown blind devotion

    faith replaced by fear / you may listen,but never really hear

    complacent,never really care / apathy thick within the air

    swallowing lies eagerly without chewing / bending over appreciating the screwing

    dizzy seeing stars,and a few stripes / sucker for hype by the puppet with a mic

    the patriot with a plastic flag made in china / getting fucked harder than any vagina

    oblivious to the blood running down your thigh / walking funny but don't know why


    yet i'm the one seen as a traitor / while you run around praising the enslaver slash raper

    partisan opposition is just a scam / neither one really give a dam

    and i don't give a fuck how crazy you think that i am / you have no right to point your finger or even raise your fuckn hand


    that's my freestyle for today.

    not exactly ice,ice baby but i do aspire. :)
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • jamtemplechains
    jamtemplechains Posts: 117
    JamMastaE wrote:
    the only thing that is weak is your grasp on reality.all the proof behind 9-11 shows that the "official" story is bullshit.

    i don't know of any "grainy footage" except those laughable few frames the government released of the "plane" hitting the pentagon.

    there will always be the brainwashed section of society that wallows in a blissful ignorance because they are unable to cope with such ugly truths.

    this country has been dumbed down so bad that people can no longer read the writing on the wall.

    start practicing your zig hile,in Spanish.

    wow, i've been really foolish, huh? i mean, here i've been, putting all this stock in credible and educated sources and investigations, when all i really needed to do was accept the flimsy claims that get little attention outside of forums like these and shitty internet documentaries. the only 'writing on the wall' here is the child-like crayola scribble of a bunch of morons who actually think a conspiracy like this would pan out. let me borrow a little material from madddox here:
    you honestly believe that after 6 years, thousands of FBI agents, firefighters, demolition experts, scientists, CIA, rescue workers, police, airline pilots, NSA, the majority of the house of representatives, air traffic control, high level military contractors, AND the entire bush administration would be able to perpetuate such a lie and conspiracy without ANY credible or legitimate leaks? hahahahahahaha....sounds to me like some of you have so much conspiracy theorist dick in your mouths, you can't even speak for yourselves anymore.
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

    Best night of my life. . .
    Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.

    myspace.com/justonemorebottle
  • hodge
    hodge Posts: 519
    jamtemplechains wrote:
    wow, i've been really foolish, huh? i mean, here i've been, putting all this stock in credible and educated sources and investigations, when all i really needed to do was accept the flimsy claims that get little attention outside of forums like these and shitty internet documentaries. the only 'writing on the wall' here is the child-like crayola scribble of a bunch of morons who actually think a conspiracy like this would pan out. let me borrow a little material from madddox here:
    you honestly believe that after 6 years, thousands of FBI agents, firefighters, demolition experts, scientists, CIA, rescue workers, police, airline pilots, NSA, the majority of the house of representatives, air traffic control, high level military contractors, AND the entire bush administration would be able to perpetuate such a lie and conspiracy without ANY credible or legitimate leaks? hahahahahahaha....sounds to me like some of you have so much conspiracy theorist dick in your mouths, you can't even speak for yourselves anymore.

    nice blinders you got on

    but hey you're from florida, you probably 'voted' for bush LOL
    ..and you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable
  • jamtemplechains
    jamtemplechains Posts: 117
    hodge wrote:
    but hey you're from florida, you probably 'voted' for bush LOL

    well i'm actually from new york, i haven't even lived in florida since the last election, and i sure as HELL did not vote for bush.
    but hey, you sure did a great job debunking my point about how it would be impossible for all those thousands of people to perpetuate a conspiracy and there to never be a leak. very, very in depth and comprehensive response you shat out there, bud.
    but hey....did somebody say something about one of us wearing blinders?....seems to me you didn't even see enough of my post to create an intelligent response to it.
    Do you see the way that tree bends?
    Does it inspire?
    Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
    A lesson to be applied.

    Best night of my life. . .
    Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.

    myspace.com/justonemorebottle
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    JamMastaE wrote:
    sleeping with eyes open / lifeless but in motion

    driven without notion / ignorance shown blind devotion

    faith replaced by fear / you may listen,but never really hear

    complacent,never really care / apathy thick within the air

    swallowing lies eagerly without chewing / bending over appreciating the screwing

    dizzy seeing stars,and a few stripes / sucker for hype by the puppet with a mic

    the patriot with a plastic flag made in china / getting fucked harder than any vagina

    oblivious to the blood running down your thigh / walking funny but don't know why


    yet i'm the one seen as a traitor / while you run around praising the enslaver slash raper

    partisan opposition is just a scam / neither one really give a dam

    and i don't give a fuck how crazy you think that i am / you have no right to point your finger or even raise your fuckn hand


    that's my freestyle for today.

    not exactly ice,ice baby but i do aspire. :)


    Got my tin foil hat / gotta feed Grandma's cat

    Haven't been laid in ages / don't ya know I'm the coolest of Mages

    While others see clouds in the sky / I see a vast conspiracy don't really know why

    "They" are out to kill us / I used to ride on the short bus

    Grandma gets mad when I conspiracy vent / I shut my mouth cause I pay no rent

    Taco Bell had the nerve to let me go / Even though I'm white I'd look killer in an Afro

    I'm as tough as nails a hard-core felon / I gotta go cause Grandma's yellin'

    Word to your motha!

    Wow! This is just like "8-Mile" ;)
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    69charger wrote:
    Got my tin foil hat / gotta feed Grandma's cat

    Haven't been laid in ages / don't ya know I'm the coolest of Mages

    While others see clouds in the sky / I see a vast conspiracy don't really know why

    "They" are out to kill us / I used to ride on the short bus

    Grandma gets mad when I conspiracy vent / I shut my mouth cause I pay no rent

    Taco Bell had the nerve to let me go / Even though I'm white I'd look killer in an Afro

    I'm as tough as nails a hard-core felon / I gotta go cause Grandma's yellin'

    Word to your motha!

    Wow! This is just like "8-Mile" ;)


    thanks for the laugh,that was funny.even though i burnt you :)

    shit was still funny!
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • JamMastaE
    JamMastaE Posts: 444
    jamtemplechains wrote:
    sounds to me like some of you have so much conspiracy theorist dick in your mouths, you can't even speak for yourselves anymore.




    when this country falls to total shit just remember your dumb ass helped it get there.fucking sheep,the Shepherd's calling.
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    JamMastaE wrote:
    even though i burnt you :)

    You did? Oh, Ok.

    Anyways, you're still the one who thinks the government is spraying them with secret jets.

    Good luck with that!

    Say "Hi" to Grandma for me.

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