Rev. Jerry Falwell Dead

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    zstillings wrote:
    I have learned on this board that we should have forgiven Bin Laden. I have learned that all people from the side that opposes this board's dominant extremism do is preach hate. We have all been compared with Nazis and been called racists by people on this board. We have all been accused of having our heads stuck in the sand as we are just fearful of the world around us. This, all by people who call people who I vote for "hatemongers." This is where the hypocrisy is coming from. It is the holier than thou crowd. This crowd is much like the extreme right in many ways. The difference is that the left that I speak of here have a heavy representation on this board. I feel like I'm reading Ann Coulter's column every time I come here and see certain names around posts. Then I realize that they are coming from the left instead.

    Falwell said the blood of Jesus would forgive bin laden, "then we should execute him."
    Anyway,

    I don't really understand why you would come to this board if you believe that the hyper-critical hypocrisy is so prevalent. I think you find what you look for. You're looking for convenient categories, apparently.

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  • RainDog wrote:
    Why make the "right, left" distinction, then? Why not just quote the specific person and say "what a horrible thing to post" or something along those lines? To use a line I hear from the right so very often - "People who look for things to be offended by will find them."

    Exactly! It's a type of behavior....not representing the entire group here.
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  • zstillings wrote:
    I have learned on this board that we should have forgiven Bin Laden. I have learned that all people from the side that opposes this board's dominant extremism do is preach hate. We have all been compared with Nazis and been called racists by people on this board. We have all been accused of having our heads stuck in the sand as we are just fearful of the world around us. This, all by people who call people who I vote for "hatemongers." This is where the hypocrisy is coming from. It is the holier than thou crowd. This crowd is much like the extreme right in many ways. The difference is that the left that I speak of here have a heavy representation on this board. I feel like I'm reading Ann Coulter's column every time I come here and see certain names around posts. Then I realize that they are coming from the left instead.


    Holier than thou? Maybe you should check into how you're coming across in this thread.
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  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    zstillings wrote:
    I have learned on this board that we should have forgiven Bin Laden. I have learned that all people from the side that opposes this board's dominant extremism do is preach hate. We have all been compared with Nazis and been called racists by people on this board. We have all been accused of having our heads stuck in the sand as we are just fearful of the world around us. This, all by people who call people who I vote for "hatemongers." This is where the hypocrisy is coming from. It is the holier than thou crowd. This crowd is much like the extreme right in many ways. The difference is that the left that I speak of here have a heavy representation on this board. I feel like I'm reading Ann Coulter's column every time I come here and see certain names around posts. Then I realize that they are coming from the left instead.


    Get over yourself. I used to post on a band's board that was predominantly 'right'. There is no comparison to the hate that comes out of those people toward the left. I may lean heavily to the left, but I'm not completely blind to see what others go through, including the republican/conservative folks here. Some may say 'it's all relative', but there is nothing like the venom and hate spewing of a self-righteous 'god fearing' conservative group. You may feel 'victimized' here, but it's just because you're in a minority position in a group of passionate people.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Falwell was a jackass. I will neither celebrate his death nor mourn his passing. But I will take comfort in knowing he is done saying stupid things.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Oh, I disagree.

    I haven't seen a post with the lack of class of robbie's from someone on the right (celebrating the death of an extreme opponent using the vulgarity that was used) that I remember. I do remember a lot of those kinds of posts when Reagan died though. Those were also from the left. I can just imagine what kind of columns will be posted and celebrated on this board soon.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Holier than thou? Maybe you should check into how you're coming across in this thread.

    Show me the last time I celebrated the death of a political opponent of mine.
  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    zstillings wrote:
    I haven't seen a post with the lack of class of robbie's from someone on the right (celebrating the death of an extreme opponent using the vulgarity that was used) that I remember. I do remember a lot of those kinds of posts when Reagan died though. Those were also from the left. I can just imagine what kind of columns will be posted and celebrated on this board soon.


    Apparently you missed my post, or conveniently chose to ignore it. You just don't get it. He's not just some 'political opponent' minding his own merry business. He was a DESPICABLE MAN. Read again what I said:



    "I don't understand peoples' high horse on these kinds of things. He's dead. He was for the most part a terribly judgemental and self-righteous person of the worst kind. Some of the things he advocated and stood for are despicable. IMO, someone's death is a perfect time to reflect on their life. If you treat other people like shit, expect to get that reflection upon your death. All the more reason to live a decent life, no? Are we supposed to hush up with 'respect' when Hitler died? Hussein? Charles Manson?

    To me, he was a hateful man that belittled the defenseless and supported destructive thought and actions. He deserves little respect. I won't go after his family and I wouldn't say anything in earshot of them. As was said, it's highly unlikely any of them are here looking for our opinions. I respect their assumed grief and that of anyone who loses a family member. I do not respect a terrible man, alive or dead."
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  • zstillings wrote:
    I haven't seen a post with the lack of class of robbie's from someone on the right (celebrating the death of an extreme opponent using the vulgarity that was used) that I remember. I do remember a lot of those kinds of posts when Reagan died though. Those were also from the left. I can just imagine what kind of columns will be posted and celebrated on this board soon.

    How quick we all forget Miller's posts last spring when Israel was bombing Lebanon. And those were mostly civilians that never said or did a single thing to piss him off.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Get over yourself. I used to post on a band's board that was predominantly 'right'. There is no comparison to the hate that comes out of those people toward the left. I may lean heavily to the left, but I'm not completely blind to see what others go through, including the republican/conservative folks here. Some may say 'it's all relative', but there is nothing like the venom and hate spewing of a self-righteous 'god fearing' conservative group. You may feel 'victimized' here, but it's just because you're in a minority position in a group of passionate people.

    I don't feel victimized. I willingly come onto this board. Notice, I have drawn a distinction between this board and the rest of the world. Maybe you didn't notice that. I have done it twice. I am not saying that the right does not do it. If you look at what I have been saying, I am pointing out hypocrisy of some of the left on this board.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    zstillings wrote:
    I haven't seen a post with the lack of class of robbie's from someone on the right (celebrating the death of an extreme opponent using the vulgarity that was used) that I remember. I do remember a lot of those kinds of posts when Reagan died though. Those were also from the left. I can just imagine what kind of columns will be posted and celebrated on this board soon.

    So, essentially, you are saying that there is an obvious flaw in the moral fiber of the Left that doesn't exist in the Right. The Right side is more humane than the Left.

    Gee. I feel bad.

    I'm neither.

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  • zstillings wrote:
    Show me the last time I celebrated the death of a political opponent of mine.

    I didn't say you did...but as far as acting holier than thou....you're taking the cake today, my friend.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    How quick we all forget Miller's posts last spring when Israel was bombing Lebanon. And those were mostly civilians that never said or did a single thing to piss him off.

    I stand corrected then.
  • AllNiteThing
    AllNiteThing Posts: 1,115
    zstillings wrote:
    Show me the last time I celebrated the death of a political opponent of mine.


    Do you mourn every suicide bomber that dies? Do you respect Hitler's family by talking nice about him? Did you hold a vigil over Hussein's death because of 'respect'. I never understand how some people can think in such black or white terms. There are degrees of everything. People who do shitty things in this life don't deserve the same respect as others. Plain and simple.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    gue_barium wrote:
    So, essentially, you are saying that there is an obvious flaw in the moral fiber of the Left that doesn't exist in the Right. The Right side is more humane than the Left.

    Gee. I feel bad.

    I'm neither.

    I have not said that. I have, once again, talked about this board as a separate entity from the real world.
  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I can't believe this thread lasted so long. A person who was extremely powerful, and divided the country died. Some people are going to be happy that he can't act anymore, some people are sad.
    One person made a tasteless comment. Get over it. How did this turn in to a left v. right thing?
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Do you mourn every suicide bomber that dies? Do you respect Hitler's family by talking nice about him? Did you hold a vigil over Hussein's death because of 'respect'. I never understand how some people can think in such black or white terms. There are degrees of everything. People who do shitty things in this life don't deserve the same respect as others. Plain and simple.

    No, but I didn't make crass comments like robbie either.

    Nice use of the Hitler clause by the way.
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    yosi wrote:
    I can't believe this thread lasted so long. A person who was extremely powerful, and divided the country died. Some people are going to be happy that he can't act anymore, some people are sad.
    One person made a tasteless comment. Get over it. How did this turn in to a left v. right thing?

    zstillings did it.

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    at least she has good skin...
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    zstillings wrote:
    I have learned on this board that we should have forgiven Bin Laden. I have learned that all people from the side that opposes this board's dominant extremism do is preach hate. We have all been compared with Nazis and been called racists by people on this board. We have all been accused of having our heads stuck in the sand as we are just fearful of the world around us. This, all by people who call people who I vote for "hatemongers." This is where the hypocrisy is coming from. It is the holier than thou crowd. This crowd is much like the extreme right in many ways. The difference is that the left that I speak of here have a heavy representation on this board. I feel like I'm reading Ann Coulter's column every time I come here and see certain names around posts. Then I realize that they are coming from the left instead.

    yikes...! I missed some of the stuff you mentioned...forgiving bin laden...? was that a single poster or group consensus...?

    I do have to say that the nazi analogy (not the killing of jews nazi's, but the taking over the world nazi's) has some merit, as well as the heads being stuck somewhere...for me that's not hate, that's someone making a point...

    and comparing this place to coulter...? I'm sorry, I don't see it...