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  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What do people think of this concept?
    What does it mean?

    Personally, I couldn't give a fuck about this country. At least not more or less so than any other place in the world. I don't even know what the word country means. And a flag is as relevant to me as a turd on the side of the street.

    Discuss...

    I understand your point of view because you life in a big country with a lot of influence in the world and a country who has a bloody past (and present);)
    But I life in a very little country which was occupied by the halft of Europe (Germany,Spain,Austria,France,...) in the past. We have a sort of Patriotsm which helps us keeping the spirit of an independand country alife. But this patriotism isn't that big that it blinds us, that we're thinking that we have the best country in the world and hasn't stop the willing to help and share. Luxemburg spents a lot of money to the third world countries and is often one of the countries which are trying to get poor countries to the E.U.
    It's funny that you spoke about the flags because we have a big polemic about a flag substitution. Now we have a traditional 3 horizontal stripes with red white blue and a lot of luxemburger want our other flag with a red lion as official flag
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    What are you thinking about that flag, normaly when a country changes their flag it has to do with a revolution, a push or an occupation but here it is just a sort of identification.
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    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    My problem is that when I read in the news about another Palestinian child being shot dead for throwing stones, i feel an ache inside.


    how about innocent israeli woman and children who get killed from rockets ponted and shot at them? do you ache for them? or feel they deserved it and smile?


    Report - Hizbullah continues to strike north: A woman and her four-year-old grandson who were injured by a Katyusha rocket that hit a house in the Meron community near Safed early Friday evening died of their injuries.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how about innocent israeli woman and children who get killed from rockets ponted and shot at them? do you ache for them? or feel they deserved it and smile?


    Report - Hizbullah continues to strike north: A woman and her four-year-old grandson who were injured by a Katyusha rocket that hit a house in the Meron community near Safed early Friday evening died of their injuries.

    great post..you pretty much just shut byznie right up
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    luxpjamer wrote:
    I understand your point of view because you life in a big country with a lot of influence in the world and a country who has a bloody past (and present);)
    But I life in a very little country which was occupied by the halft of Europe (Germany,Spain,Austria,France,...) in the past. We have a sort of Patriotsm which helps us keeping the spirit of an independand country alife. But this patriotism isn't that big that it blinds us, that we're thinking that we have the best country in the world and hasn't stop the willing to help and share. Luxemburg spents a lot of money to the third world countries and is often one of the countries which are trying to get poor countries to the E.U.
    It's funny that you spoke about the flags because we have a big polemic about a flag substitution. Now we have a traditional 3 horizontal stripes with red white blue and a lot of luxemburger want our other flag with a red lion as official flag
    roudeleiw.png

    What are you thinking about that flag, normaly when a country changes their flag it has to do with a revolution, a push or an occupation but here it is just a sort of identification.

    I think the Luxemburg flag should have a piece of cheese on it, or a cow, instead of a lion. ;)

    Edit: But seriously, that one looks o.k to me.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how about innocent israeli woman and children who get killed from rockets ponted and shot at them? do you ache for them? or feel they deserved it and smile?


    Report - Hizbullah continues to strike north: A woman and her four-year-old grandson who were injured by a Katyusha rocket that hit a house in the Meron community near Safed early Friday evening died of their injuries.

    I always bat for the underdog. You should know that by now.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    great post..you pretty much just shut byznie right up

    And you should know better than to think you can shut me up.
    But then my name's not Byznie so maybe you were talking about someone else.
  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I think the Luxemburg flag should have a piece of cheese on it, or a cow, instead of a lion. ;)

    I would prefer a bootle of beer or a grape ;)
    Beavis : Is this Pearl Jam?
    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
    Butt-head: I heard these guys, like, came first and Pearl Jam ripped them off.
    Beavis: No, Pearl Jam came first.
    Butt-head: Well, they both suck.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    luxpjamer wrote:
    I would prefer a bootle of beer or a grape ;)

    A grape? I'd go with the bottle of beer! :D What beer though? That's the question! :confused:
  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    Byrnzie wrote:
    A grape? I'd go with the bottle of beer! :D What beer though? That's the question! :confused:
    look at this thread and you'll find the answer there are two luxemburgish beers and one can't be because of their slogan ;)
    Beavis : Is this Pearl Jam?
    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
    Butt-head: I heard these guys, like, came first and Pearl Jam ripped them off.
    Beavis: No, Pearl Jam came first.
    Butt-head: Well, they both suck.
  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    luxpjamer wrote:
    look at this thread and you'll find the answer there are two luxemburgish beers and one can't be because of their slogan ;)
    sorry forget the link :):):):):):):):):):)
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=226517
    Beavis : Is this Pearl Jam?
    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
    Butt-head: I heard these guys, like, came first and Pearl Jam ripped them off.
    Beavis: No, Pearl Jam came first.
    Butt-head: Well, they both suck.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    luxpjamer wrote:
    sorry forget the link :):):):):):):):):):)
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=226517

    Bofferding beer! If the alcohol percentage is 5% or more then stick it on your flag. :) Otherwise, go with a cow.
  • luxpjamer
    luxpjamer Posts: 837
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Bofferding beer! If the alcohol percentage is 5% or more then stick it on your flag. :) Otherwise, go with a cow.

    hey allmost all of our beers have 5%...but it is battin one of the oldest brewery in Lux..and the slogan is "Beier ewei freier" which means "Beer as in the past".. a little bit conservatif...so are our leading politician :)
    Beavis : Is this Pearl Jam?
    Butt-head: This guy makes faces like Eddie Vedder.
    Beavis: No, Eddie Vedder makes faces like this guy.
    Butt-head: I heard these guys, like, came first and Pearl Jam ripped them off.
    Beavis: No, Pearl Jam came first.
    Butt-head: Well, they both suck.
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    " A great country doesnt need educated people, it needs patriots"-the American Constitution.

    Oh forgive me it was Joseph Stalin. easy mistake to make, ohhh say can u seeeeeee......
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    so what is the opposite of being a patriot?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so what is the opposite of being a patriot?

    A traitor?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so what is the opposite of being a patriot?

    I don't think there is a such thing as an exact opposite.

    We could assume that egalitarianism is opposite, in the sense that egalitarianism looks out for the greater good of all people, while patriotism is selective. Or we could assume that treason is antonymous with patriotism. Though I doubt there is an exact opposite of patriotism. Even less likely that anyone practices it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    A traitor?


    so you consider yourself a traitor? i'm just trying understand why you do not consider yourself a patriot. or why, for example, its stupid for me to be such a strong one for america.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't think there is a such thing as an exact opposite.

    I was gonna say that, but I thought I'd go with the easy answer.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so you consider yourself a traitor? i'm just trying understand why you do not consider yourself a patriot. or why, for example, its stupid for me to be such a strong one for america.

    I don't consider myself a traitor. Treason implies a political 'act' which endangers ones country of birth.

    Treason:
    1. the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.
    2. a violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or to one's state.
    3. the betrayal of a trust or confidence; breach of faith; treachery.

    The answers to your other questions can be found throughout this thread.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I don't consider myself a traitor. Treason implies a political 'act' which endangers ones country of birth.
    The answers to your other questions can be found throughout this thread.


    maybe we have a different meaning of what it is to be a patriot. I consider myself a patriot because I love America. without looking through this thread, I think you disagree that love for one's country doesnt equate to being a patriot.

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