To the people who believe 911 was an inside job...

nobody wrote:

you don't get it man...

they burned down an empty builing...nobody died...nobody killed himself doing it (not on the nazi's side and not FOR the nazis)

how is that in any way similiar to kill thousands of your own citizens???
or...some killing himself and killing thousands of people from his own nation?

there is no connection between the two except the one you imagine...and I won't continue to argue this, because this is plain for EVERYone to see!!!

good night...

The events are similair. The circumstances arent.

nobody wrote:

I'll take the opportinuty still to put my question to you again...
since you bring up your gravity story that has nothing to do with my question...

who flew the planes...and what was their reward/motivation?
maybe you can come up with something that makes sense...

m.

You're still on about that aspect? Honestly?

Who cares....GPS on pre programmed autopilot....human beings trained by the very same that are conducting the entire operation in the first place?

All the supposed "terrorist" pilots were completely inept to even fly a cessna.

In any event.....stell framed buildings (not to mention reinforced with concrete) don't fall down like a deck of cards...

elevator shafts were being worked on for 7 or 9 months prior.....access to inbetween all floors to entire frame during 9 am - 5 pm was 100% available.

Plus all the coinciding stories, the motive.....

The list goes on forever....

nobody wrote:

because first: Bush(be he as he may) is not "any other extremist leader"
second: it makes absolutely no sense at all to harm your country in such an extraordinairy fashion to achieve your goals (whatever they may be)
third: pretty much all the "evidence" that is brought up by conspiracy theorists is a)unsourced b) taken from other conspiracy theories (some of them hundreds of years old, like Antisemitism) c) disproven or d) all the other three together...
I have yet to see a conspiracy theory that claims only the main (and true) facts of its thesis without throwing at least twice as much totally outragous claims in as well. Who has to use such an amount of deception to get its point across is absolutely worthless for anything, except entertainment(like the da vince code). If they are true and honest, there would be no need for deception...it's not that they are in a position of power where they have to hide things (not necessarily sinister things) (like governments).
It diverts people from real problems. Sure BUsh has done it...we just have to start a revolution and put the good guys in. and forget that it is clearly possible to eliminate terrorism, not by bombs...but by solving actual regional crisis with actual real people involved that have interests, motives, fears...living in situations with an individual historical and social background. By enganging problems in this manner individual solutions for the world's problems can be found (and I don't mean only terrorism), not by claiming the dark forces are behind it. The world is too complex to be controlled by a hundred, or even a million people...this is FACT...not opinion

rant over...

m.

Ok so let me get this straight there is no way in your mind that you can ever have people who do sinister things work for a government yet it is easy to see how so called extremists could do it?

Why do you think everyone who works in government is incapable of devising and carrying out actions that would hurt people?

Have you read operation northwoods? They decided not to carry it out but they devised the plan.

nobody wrote:

they will still have to persuade those people to kill themselves...for no reward...

Maybe Bin Laden is a FRAUD, and takes orders from the CIA? Now if Bin Laden told his loony toon squad to go fly planes into the World Trade Center, in the name of Jihad, why wouldn't they? As long as his people didn't know he was on the take, I'm sure they'd see no problem in killing themselves, and thousands of others in the name of their beliefs.

OR

Bin Laden is a completely separate entity that hates us, and we've been watching him. US intelligence picked up every detail about the attacks in advance from spying on Al-Qaeda for years on end, as they pieced their plan together. What if our government knew everything: The who, when, why, what, where... If only a select few people in the CIA knew the towers were going to get hit on the morning of the 11th of September, how hard would it really be to plant demolition explosives in there a few weeks in advance, and detonate them shortly after the planes hit? How hard would it be to conveniently have no fighter planes anywhere near ground zero, to prevent the second building from getting hit? It's a simple matter of scheduling. Was Pearl Harbor allowed to happen? Some say, DEFINITELY.

And you're dealing with the most blindly loyal people in the world when it comes to US intelligence. Of course these people think they're doing the greatest thing for the common good of everyone... After all, they are the best and brightest of the greatest country in the world! We're always the good guys, RIGHT?



CIA chief: JOHNSON! I have your next mission!

Johnson: Reporting for duty, Sir!

CIA chief: Now this may sound crazy, but..

Johnson: Nothing you say is crazy, Sir! Unless, of course, YOU say it's crazy, sir.

CIA chief: I like the way you think, Johnson. Now where was I? Oh yeah! Your next mission may sound crazy, but it is guaranteed to bring peace to the entire world, through a New World Order, where everyone gets to live like an American!

Johnson: I had a dream about that last night, Sir!

CIA chief: Sure ya did. Now what I need you to do, is plant some demolition explosives in the twin towers,-- they have to come down, about a half hour after some planes crash into them. You are a demolition expert, correct?

Johnson: Sir, yes sir! But, Sir, take down towers?

CIA chief: Yeah.... We really liked them, too, I know... BUT, only a few people will die, we'll put new towers there that will be wayyyyyy more badass, and 'terror-proof', and, we will have a world government that mimics ours here at home! We will finally achieve peace on earth, and finally, some order. Again, the cost: just a couple of buildings, and less than 10,000 American lives, and of course, a few Muslims, but who cares about them?-- and imagine, UTOPIA!"

Johnson: Consider it done, Sir!


I still don't know what to believe about what happened that day. Some things just don't add up. Building 7, for one. You have an "official" explanation from Popular Science: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5#wtc7
where there is no mention of the building being intentionally demolished, and then you have this video from a PBS special, where the owner of the World Trade Center, Larry Silverstein, admitting that he ordered the Fire Department to "Pull it": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100

When were they going to plant the explosives in that building, with all the smoke, dust. It takes preparation to demolish a building of that size, even when rigged with explosives. Wouldn't the explosives had to be in the building already?

The Popular Science article is taken as gospel by so many. Why wouldn't Larry's story match up? Unless, we really don't know what he means by "pull it," but I think it's kind of obvious. That building DEFINITELY looked like it came down in controlled demolition form.

I don't understand any of it. It's frustrating. The official story isn't doing it for a lot of people-- I don't think it can be ruled out 100%, but with all the secrecy surrounding it, why should we believe it?

Just some answers, please. That's all we want.

nobody wrote:

a small group of people (say 1000) can't control the world, it's way too complex...
m.

I do believe that if you control the money supply, that you can control MANY MANY people. Prime example: The Federal Reserve. They screw with interest rates a tenth of a point, and the whole world goes batshit crazy-- happy, sad, scared, etc... In the meantime, the interest rates are all smoke and mirrors anyway. They straight robbed us.

_outlaw wrote:

of course not.

9/11 was so important to the Bush admin. It put the country in a complete state of fear and let him get away with so much, like the PATRIOT ACT, war in Afghanistan, etc.

So let me see if I've got the talking points down:

1) The Bush Administration is, perhaps, the most inept administration in the history of the United States

and 2) That didn't stop them from pulling off the single greatest conspiracy in the history of conspiracies and getting away with it.

Oh-kay ...