To the people who believe 911 was an inside job...

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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    Oh, sorry, just noticed this post. I didn't mean to derail your thread, but you know people have started lots of threads about this stuff before:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=292599
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=276094
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=286012
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=256912
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=292756
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=286990
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=286990
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=279324
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=270653

    None of these might answer your questions, but I'm sure it'll help you see where people are coming from...

    that's why I started this thread, cause I didn't want to talk about "this stuff"
    I post a specific question that is crucial if you claim the US is BEHIND the attacks (not letting them happen)

    that there are so many threads about "this stuff" out there is exactly the reason why I told people here to stick to the particular question and not start with more general discussion...there is not arrogance behind it, I assure you...I am just dying to find out how people explain US agents flying into those buildings (I take brainwashing made most sense to me so far)...

    please do you have any opinion regarding this question?

    m.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    nobody wrote:
    cause there are easier way to get a war started by the single most spectacular(in a negative way) attack EVER carried out in history...

    I believe you just have to claim that a country has weapons of mass destruction...

    m.
    of course not.

    9/11 was so important to the Bush admin. It put the country in a complete state of fear and let him get away with so much, like the PATRIOT ACT, war in Afghanistan, etc.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    nobody wrote:
    I am just dying to find out how people explain US agents flying into those buildings (I take brainwashing made most sense to me so far)...
    During the Vietnam war, when the army was walking in the forest and they get to an open area with no trees, they'd have to find out if there are enemy snipers hiding, and where they are.

    Do you know how they did that?

    They'd send one man to die for his country. He'd run out into the open and get shot. The army would then know where the sniper was.

    It's not hard to get someone to kill himself for his country. The government could've threatened someone (his family, finances... anything), they could've brainwashed, or anything. That's not the hardest thing in 9/11 to figure out...
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    During the Vietnam war, when the army was walking in the forest and they get to an open area with no trees, they'd have to find out if there are enemy snipers hiding, and where they are.

    Do you know how they did that?

    They'd send one man to die for his country. He'd run out into the open and get shot. The army would then know where the sniper was.

    It's not hard to get someone to kill himself for his country. The government could've threatened someone (his family, finances... anything), they could've brainwashed, or anything. That's not the hardest thing in 9/11 to figure out...

    like I'm saying: he died FOR HIS COUNTRY, to defeat THE ENEMY...
    I'm not stupid: US agents as pilots in 911 KILL THEIR COUNTRY for exactly WHAT????
    is it so hard to see the difference?
    and please check out the original post for my doubts about the other reasons you gave...

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    like I'm saying: he died FOR HIS COUNTRY, to defeat THE ENEMY...
    I'm not stupid: US agents as pilots in 911 KILL THEIR COUNTRY for exactly WHAT????
    is it so hard to see the difference?
    and please check out the original post for my doubts about the other reasons you gave...

    m.

    m.
    The guys who crashed into the towers werent american.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    _outlaw wrote:
    It's not hard to get someone to kill himself for his country. The government could've threatened someone (his family, finances... anything), they could've brainwashed, or anything. That's not the hardest thing in 9/11 to figure out...

    as a matter of fact it is one of the hardest things...
    and only 3 of the specialists here only give something that resembles an answer...

    I say it again...911 US agents didn't die for their country, they actually killed a good part of it...they might have died for the administration...but why?

    and don't you think that somebody who threatens your family and at the same time plans to use you to kill thousands of their own citizens, will leave your family alone after you killed yourself???

    you have to try a little harder here...

    m.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    nobody wrote:
    now...US agents don't attack a hated enemy...and I tend to believe they didn't expect rewards in heaven...yet they must have pretty strong reasons to kill themselves and thousands of others of their own people...
    and for what? so that the US, Bilderberg, BAnkers can gain more power, money, or influence?
    Why would the US tell them "the only reason you're doing this is for us to gain more power, money, etc"... of course they wouldn't give them that reason. If the US wanted to assign some agents to carry this out, they'd probably find a way to justify it to the people doing this.
    or was their family threatened? who would believe the family would be released after the attack by someone who plans on killing thousands of their own people?
    Lots of people, probably.
    and there is not a single attacker but a dozen. actually you can be pretty sure the families won't be released since they might have some suspicion?
    I wouldn't know.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    The guys who crashed into the towers werent american.

    so WHO were they?
    before you said CIA agents...or CIA trained people...
    so they died for their country you say? what country would that be? Afhanistan? Pakistan? SAudi-Arabia??

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    so WHO were they?
    before you said CIA agents...or CIA trained people...
    so they died for their country you say? what country would that be? Afhanistan? Pakistan? SAudi-Arabia??

    m.
    The CIA can hire agents outside of the US. Like Operation Paperclip and National Interest after WW2.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    If the US wanted to assign some agents to carry this out, they'd probably find a way to justify it to the people doing this.
    [\quote]

    tell me one...anything...speculate...be inventive...

    m.
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    The CIA can hire agents outside of the US. Like Operation Paperclip and National Interest after WW2.

    and they just like to KILL THEMSELVES for the US???

    this is insane...

    I will even be satisfied if you provide something similiar from history...

    some who (wasn't insane) enganged in a mass killing of his own people, or people that he didn't feel absolutely no grudge against...kill themselves...and gain absolutely nothing...
    has this ever been done before?

    m.
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    nobody wrote:
    and they just like to KILL THEMSELVES for the US???

    this is insane...

    I will even be satisfied if you provide something similiar from history...

    some who (wasn't insane) enganged in a mass killing of his own people, or people that he didn't feel absolutely no grudge against...kill themselves...and gain absolutely nothing...
    has this ever been done before?

    m.

    Is it likely that a CIA, MI5, MI6, Mossad or any other government agency operative out there just presents themselves to a person, spills the beans on the whole plan and expects them to go along with it?

    They will go through people who will find other people to do a job and be told something that would bear no resemblance to the real reason for the actions they are going to carry out.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    I am not from New York...
    and still I'll say this...!!!no disrespect!!!

    but who believes that CIA agents (of whatever nationality) can be made to kill themselves (for absolutely no reward, neither on earth nor in heaven) and kill thousands of people of their own nation/people they have absolutely no grudge against, can be led to BELIEVE ANYthing...

    again: this has nothing to do with people who think the admin utilized the attacks or whatever...but people who actually insist on believing the US actually flew those planes in the buildings...and then triggered some explosions in there...
    and by the way: the people who installed the explosives didn't die, but they had to have some pretty solid reasons too, to blow those things up...

    !!!it is always easy to see the dark forces behind everything...!!!
    !!!but as this post showed...when you get to the details...that is, still INDIVIDUALS(with individual goals, motivations, and reasons) have to carry out those plans...you easily reach the border of common sense...!!!

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    and they just like to KILL THEMSELVES for the US???

    this is insane...

    I will even be satisfied if you provide something similiar from history...

    some who (wasn't insane) enganged in a mass killing of his own people, or people that he didn't feel absolutely no grudge against...kill themselves...and gain absolutely nothing...
    has this ever been done before?

    m.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    spiral out wrote:
    Is it likely that a CIA, MI5, MI6, Mossad or any other government agency operative out there just presents themselves to a person, spills the beans on the whole plan and expects them to go along with it?

    They will go through people who will find other people to do a job and be told something that would bear no resemblance to the real reason for the actions they are going to carry out.

    they will still have to persuade those people to kill themselves...for no reward...
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    you have no clue...
    did anyone kill himself setting this fire???
    did thousands of people die???
    not even the nazis pulled something like that off...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hitlerum
    make sure to check it out carefully...

    m.

    PS: and I should add: people who believe Bush=Hitler (or Obama=Hitler) can be led to believe ANYthing

    not only is it grotesquely FALSE but it is deeply respectless in the face of Millions and Millions of deaths that were cause by WWII in only 6 years...
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    you have no clue...
    did anyone kill himself setting this fire???
    did thousands of people die???

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hitlerum
    make sure to check it out carefully...

    m.
    It came out that it was an inside job. Im done here. This isnt an interview.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    sorry...
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    who???
    the one that the nazis blamed for it

    you haven't even read the damn wikipedia article
    he was BLAMED for it...but never did it say it anywhere that he did it together with them...
    he was a darn COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!!!!!! from the netherlands!!!!!!!!!
    in fact the nazis might have done it themselves (still disputed)
    but in no way there were doing it TOGETHER

    that's what I keep repeating...without facts I can form all kinds of opinions

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    who???
    the one that the nazis blamed for it

    you haven't even read the damn wikipedia article
    he was BLAMED for it...he DIDN'T DO IT!!!!!!!!

    m.
    Ok, but you asked to find something similair. Nazi's burning the reichstag for pwer is similair to the US bring down 3 buildings for power.

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