Fire brought down WTC 7

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  • dg1979us
    dg1979us Posts: 568
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Did I miss how the "best post of this thread" explained how steel liquefied?

    also what about the forensics issue?

    no... it appears I didn't...

    good enough for some though...

    why look into it if you mind is already made up....it's much easier to elevate yourself over others by calling people crazy...

    :rolleyes:


    Where did I call you crazy? Please dont put words in my mouth.

    And I havent even seen verification that steel was liquified.

    And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.
  • BinFrog
    BinFrog MA Posts: 7,314
    dg1979us wrote:
    And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.


    Bingo.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    post me one picture of where there is a river of molten steel? one of the most phorographed and videoed events in recent times and not one image of molten steel? weird that isnt it? i suppose the government will have retrieved them all of the various hundreds of members of the public who managed to take pics/footage that day.

    ...this is getting repetitive...

    again...eye witness testimony, and I've already posted four links now showing proof of iron that has been melted in what has been referred to as "WTC meteorites" ....and also from a forensic analysis perspective.
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I'm not, but I have a respectable amount of first hand structural experience with altering buildings to code so they won't fall down.

    so you are an architect ?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Impact damage V.s. thermal expansion

    Please try to follow along. This is a new report from NIST citing thermal expansion.

    You put pressure on glass it breaks. There should have been windows popping out from heat expansion.

    I saw nothing of the sort. Neither did NIST.

    you're getting confused. you said building 7 was all shiney and windowy when you saw it collapse.

    it wasnt.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dg1979us wrote:
    Where did I call you crazy? Please dont put words in my mouth.

    And I havent even seen verification that steel was liquified.

    And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.


    Show me windows shattering from thermal expansion. This is the new finding, and the reason this thread is in existence.

    You showed me impact damage.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    you're getting confused. you said building 7 was all shiney and windowy when you saw it collapse.

    it wasnt.


    So there must have been lots of reports from windows popping out from all this thermal expansion...

    there wasn't...

    that's a bit of a problem...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • dg1979us
    dg1979us Posts: 568
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Show me windows shattering from thermal expansion. This is the new finding, and the reason this thread is in existence.

    You showed me impact damage.

    I didnt show you anything, that was another poster.
  • dg1979us
    dg1979us Posts: 568
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So there must have been lots of reports from windows popping out from all this thermal expansion...

    there wasn't...

    that's a bit of a problem...

    Reports by whom?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    ...this is getting repetitive...


    :D

    and a 'please follow along'

    resorting to condescension... :D

    i must do better in class Mr Roland sir


    :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    :D

    and a 'please follow along'

    resorting to condescension... :D

    i must do better in class Mr Roland sir


    :rolleyes:

    if you're not going to even look at the information I'm presenting and keep asking me about it well...
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So there must have been lots of reports from windows popping out from all this thermal expansion...

    there wasn't...

    that's a bit of a problem...

    cant see any windows in the first 2 pics of this page.

    http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dg1979us wrote:
    Reports by whom?


    firemen standing there staring at it for hours. I don't remember hearing anything about windows popping out...glass breaking or falling to the streets below.


    For the amount of disfiguration (or internal heat expansion pushing everything out of place everywhere) that building would be looking pretty disheveled before it dropped out of the sky.

    aside from some impact damage, it looked pretty nice on the outside before falling down to me.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    cant see any windows in the first 2 pics of this page.

    http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm


    That's not building #7
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's not building #7

    well Binfrog already posted the pics to building 7 and you 'skipped' past them.. so i mistakenly thought you meant another building... as building 7 has already been shown

    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

    2nd photo down (one past the graphic)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    firemen standing there staring at it for hours. I don't remember hearing anything about windows popping out...glass breaking or falling to the streets below.


    For the amount of disfiguration (or internal heat expansion pushing everything out of place everywhere) that building would be looking pretty disheveled before it dropped out of the sky.

    aside from some impact damage, it looked pretty nice on the outside before falling down to me.


    sigh ;)

    it looked pretty nice?

    1) Fireman saying there was "a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." "I would say it was probably about a third of it".

    2) A laymen officer the fireman was standing next to said, "that building doesn’t look straight." He then says "It didn’t look right".

    3) They put a transit on it and afterward were "pretty sure she was going to collapse."

    4) They "saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13".

    5) Photographic evidence of a fire directly under the penthouse which collapsed first.

    6) The penthouse fell first, followed by the rest of the building shortly after.

    7) The collapse happened from the bottom.

    8) Photographic evidence of large smoke plumes against the back of B7. Plumes of smoke so large you can't see the entire rear of the 47 story office building.



    yeah real pretty
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    well Binfrog already posted the pics to building 7 and you 'skipped' past them.. so i mistakenly thought you meant another building... as building 7 has already been shown

    http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

    2nd photo down (one past the graphic)


    I saw that one. That's impact damage from falling debris.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    here is another simple and OBVIOUS question from my2hands that will disprove 9/11 "inside job" theories surrounding WTC7


    why the hell would they "blow up" that building? what did "they" stand to gain from it? ... and if "they" did blow it up, then why wait until hours later? dont you think "they" would have known that would set off questions and peak curiosity?

    why the hell would "they" wait hours to bring down WTC7?

    "they" wouldnt, and didnt, plain and simple :D
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    dunkman wrote:
    sigh ;)

    it looked pretty nice?

    1) Fireman saying there was "a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." "I would say it was probably about a third of it".

    2) A laymen officer the fireman was standing next to said, "that building doesn’t look straight." He then says "It didn’t look right".

    3) They put a transit on it and afterward were "pretty sure she was going to collapse."

    4) They "saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13".

    5) Photographic evidence of a fire directly under the penthouse which collapsed first.

    6) The penthouse fell first, followed by the rest of the building shortly after.

    7) The collapse happened from the bottom.

    8) Photographic evidence of large smoke plumes against the back of B7. Plumes of smoke so large you can't see the entire rear of the 47 story office building.



    yeah real pretty

    pics just before it went down...

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/3073.jpg

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/wtc7_northface.jpg

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/fig_5_20.jpg


    looks pretty shiny to me....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    can we stop talking about windows. who gives a fuck


    http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html

    please watch

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