Did I miss how the "best post of this thread" explained how steel liquefied?
also what about the forensics issue?
no... it appears I didn't...
good enough for some though...
why look into it if you mind is already made up....it's much easier to elevate yourself over others by calling people crazy...
:rolleyes:
Where did I call you crazy? Please dont put words in my mouth.
And I havent even seen verification that steel was liquified.
And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.
And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.
Bingo.
Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
post me one picture of where there is a river of molten steel? one of the most phorographed and videoed events in recent times and not one image of molten steel? weird that isnt it? i suppose the government will have retrieved them all of the various hundreds of members of the public who managed to take pics/footage that day.
...this is getting repetitive...
again...eye witness testimony, and I've already posted four links now showing proof of iron that has been melted in what has been referred to as "WTC meteorites" ....and also from a forensic analysis perspective.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Please try to follow along. This is a new report from NIST citing thermal expansion.
You put pressure on glass it breaks. There should have been windows popping out from heat expansion.
I saw nothing of the sort. Neither did NIST.
you're getting confused. you said building 7 was all shiney and windowy when you saw it collapse.
it wasnt.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Where did I call you crazy? Please dont put words in my mouth.
And I havent even seen verification that steel was liquified.
And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.
Show me windows shattering from thermal expansion. This is the new finding, and the reason this thread is in existence.
You showed me impact damage.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you're getting confused. you said building 7 was all shiney and windowy when you saw it collapse.
it wasnt.
So there must have been lots of reports from windows popping out from all this thermal expansion...
there wasn't...
that's a bit of a problem...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
if you're not going to even look at the information I'm presenting and keep asking me about it well...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
firemen standing there staring at it for hours. I don't remember hearing anything about windows popping out...glass breaking or falling to the streets below.
For the amount of disfiguration (or internal heat expansion pushing everything out of place everywhere) that building would be looking pretty disheveled before it dropped out of the sky.
aside from some impact damage, it looked pretty nice on the outside before falling down to me.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
well Binfrog already posted the pics to building 7 and you 'skipped' past them.. so i mistakenly thought you meant another building... as building 7 has already been shown
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
firemen standing there staring at it for hours. I don't remember hearing anything about windows popping out...glass breaking or falling to the streets below.
For the amount of disfiguration (or internal heat expansion pushing everything out of place everywhere) that building would be looking pretty disheveled before it dropped out of the sky.
aside from some impact damage, it looked pretty nice on the outside before falling down to me.
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it looked pretty nice?
1) Fireman saying there was "a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." "I would say it was probably about a third of it".
2) A laymen officer the fireman was standing next to said, "that building doesn’t look straight." He then says "It didn’t look right".
3) They put a transit on it and afterward were "pretty sure she was going to collapse."
4) They "saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13".
5) Photographic evidence of a fire directly under the penthouse which collapsed first.
6) The penthouse fell first, followed by the rest of the building shortly after.
7) The collapse happened from the bottom.
8) Photographic evidence of large smoke plumes against the back of B7. Plumes of smoke so large you can't see the entire rear of the 47 story office building.
yeah real pretty
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
well Binfrog already posted the pics to building 7 and you 'skipped' past them.. so i mistakenly thought you meant another building... as building 7 has already been shown
I saw that one. That's impact damage from falling debris.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
here is another simple and OBVIOUS question from my2hands that will disprove 9/11 "inside job" theories surrounding WTC7
why the hell would they "blow up" that building? what did "they" stand to gain from it? ... and if "they" did blow it up, then why wait until hours later? dont you think "they" would have known that would set off questions and peak curiosity?
why the hell would "they" wait hours to bring down WTC7?
1) Fireman saying there was "a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." "I would say it was probably about a third of it".
2) A laymen officer the fireman was standing next to said, "that building doesn’t look straight." He then says "It didn’t look right".
3) They put a transit on it and afterward were "pretty sure she was going to collapse."
4) They "saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13".
5) Photographic evidence of a fire directly under the penthouse which collapsed first.
6) The penthouse fell first, followed by the rest of the building shortly after.
7) The collapse happened from the bottom.
8) Photographic evidence of large smoke plumes against the back of B7. Plumes of smoke so large you can't see the entire rear of the 47 story office building.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
also... dont you believe all the firefighters saying the building was buckling and that they heard weird creaking noises...
Boyle: There were four engines and at least three trucks. So we’re heading east on Vesey, we couldn’t see much past Broadway. We couldn’t see Church Street. We couldn’t see what was down there. It was really smoky and dusty."
"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
also... dont you believe all the firefighters saying the building was buckling and that they heard weird creaking noises...
Boyle: There were four engines and at least three trucks. So we’re heading east on Vesey, we couldn’t see much past Broadway. We couldn’t see Church Street. We couldn’t see what was down there. It was really smoky and dusty."
"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
If you want to believe steel buildings fall down perfectly symmetrical from asymmetrical damage that's your prerogative I suppose.
To my knowledge, it hasn't been observed before in all of recorded history, and I think there's a very good reason it hasn't.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you want to believe steel buildings fall down perfectly symmetrical from asymmetrical damage that's your prerogative I suppose.
To my knowledge, it hasn't been observed before in all of recorded history, and I think there's a very good reason it hasn't.
it didnt fall down perfectly symmetrically
it fell down on one side first dragging the rest of the structure with it.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Why did the building fall in perfect unison? If the left side of the building's floor collapsed we should have seen the left side collapse first.
it didnt fall "in perfect unison" whatever the fuck that means. did you even watch the video?
Roland, any reason why you are ignoring the link I posted?
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Where did I call you crazy? Please dont put words in my mouth.
And I havent even seen verification that steel was liquified.
And also please dont talk about peoples minds being made up when it is obvious yours is as made up as much as anyone. Just like a moment ago when you quickly tried to divert the topic about the windows shattering.
Bingo.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
...this is getting repetitive...
again...eye witness testimony, and I've already posted four links now showing proof of iron that has been melted in what has been referred to as "WTC meteorites" ....and also from a forensic analysis perspective.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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so you are an architect ?
you're getting confused. you said building 7 was all shiney and windowy when you saw it collapse.
it wasnt.
Show me windows shattering from thermal expansion. This is the new finding, and the reason this thread is in existence.
You showed me impact damage.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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So there must have been lots of reports from windows popping out from all this thermal expansion...
there wasn't...
that's a bit of a problem...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I didnt show you anything, that was another poster.
Reports by whom?
and a 'please follow along'
resorting to condescension...
i must do better in class Mr Roland sir
:rolleyes:
if you're not going to even look at the information I'm presenting and keep asking me about it well...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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cant see any windows in the first 2 pics of this page.
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
firemen standing there staring at it for hours. I don't remember hearing anything about windows popping out...glass breaking or falling to the streets below.
For the amount of disfiguration (or internal heat expansion pushing everything out of place everywhere) that building would be looking pretty disheveled before it dropped out of the sky.
aside from some impact damage, it looked pretty nice on the outside before falling down to me.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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That's not building #7
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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well Binfrog already posted the pics to building 7 and you 'skipped' past them.. so i mistakenly thought you meant another building... as building 7 has already been shown
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
2nd photo down (one past the graphic)
sigh
it looked pretty nice?
1) Fireman saying there was "a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." "I would say it was probably about a third of it".
2) A laymen officer the fireman was standing next to said, "that building doesn’t look straight." He then says "It didn’t look right".
3) They put a transit on it and afterward were "pretty sure she was going to collapse."
4) They "saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13".
5) Photographic evidence of a fire directly under the penthouse which collapsed first.
6) The penthouse fell first, followed by the rest of the building shortly after.
7) The collapse happened from the bottom.
8) Photographic evidence of large smoke plumes against the back of B7. Plumes of smoke so large you can't see the entire rear of the 47 story office building.
yeah real pretty
I saw that one. That's impact damage from falling debris.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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why the hell would they "blow up" that building? what did "they" stand to gain from it? ... and if "they" did blow it up, then why wait until hours later? dont you think "they" would have known that would set off questions and peak curiosity?
why the hell would "they" wait hours to bring down WTC7?
"they" wouldnt, and didnt, plain and simple
pics just before it went down...
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/3073.jpg
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/wtc7_northface.jpg
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/fig_5_20.jpg
looks pretty shiny to me....
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html
please watch
Just before it went down as in when? It burned for several hours. Are these pictures minutes before it went down? Several hours?
Roland what is your take on this?
yep... thats the north face... which is the side all theorists post pics of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
south side billowing with smoke and fire.
also... dont you believe all the firefighters saying the building was buckling and that they heard weird creaking noises...
Boyle: There were four engines and at least three trucks. So we’re heading east on Vesey, we couldn’t see much past Broadway. We couldn’t see Church Street. We couldn’t see what was down there. It was really smoky and dusty."
"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
If you want to believe steel buildings fall down perfectly symmetrical from asymmetrical damage that's your prerogative I suppose.
To my knowledge, it hasn't been observed before in all of recorded history, and I think there's a very good reason it hasn't.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
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please watch this. I'd love to know your thoughts on this....although I'm guessing people like you and roland wont bother....here it is anyway
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html
it didnt fall down perfectly symmetrically
it fell down on one side first dragging the rest of the structure with it.
it didnt fall "in perfect unison" whatever the fuck that means. did you even watch the video?
Roland, any reason why you are ignoring the link I posted?
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)