Fire brought down WTC 7

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  • In any event....keep an eye out next time they release a UFO or bigfoot sighting, or celebrity scandal, in the media and watch what very closely what follows afterwards.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    In any event....keep an eye out next time they release a UFO or bigfoot sighting, or celebrity scandal, in the media and watch what very closely what follows afterwards.

    you think the bigfoot press conference was staged or is somehow linked to this report being released?


    (has anyone found the full report btw?)
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Anyone else notice the media just finished parading around a bigfoot story prior to releasing NIST's "final explanation" on WTC7?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsequitur
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  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    polaris wrote:
    what i find interesting in these threads is the constant shots "truthers" have to take ...

    i know FOR A FACT that no one on this board can say for certain that the official story of 9/11 is 100% accurate nor can they tell me for certain that the towers and building 7 fell by the reasons given ... NO ONE ...

    yet - open discussion (which is what this forum is about) is made to be a farce by people who's only true foundation is that "they can't believe someone would do something like this" ...

    i'm sure the antagonism is a two-way street but for the people who come in and post nothing but "tin foil" hat comments - you serve no purpose other than to antagonize ...

    I am a rational person and I cannot for the life of me believe everything is what they say for a myriad of reasons that have been posted in these threads time and again ... i know a lot of people who are by no means looking for a conspiracy who think the whole story is fishy ... we're not talking about whether elvis is dead here ... we're talking about the an event that has precipitated the invasion and occupation of 2 sovereign countries resulting in mass death and suffering ...

    Exactly. The whole thing needs to be investigated.
  • spyguy wrote:
    you think the bigfoot press conference was staged or is somehow linked to this report being released?


    (has anyone found the full report btw?)

    Very little if anything political happens merely by accident..

    timing is everything, because they haven't really said anything new here except yup....fire caused it.

    So no cracked and shattering windows with all this thermal expansion.....

    remarkable...one could say unbelievable...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrog wrote:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

    Fox news is your friend. The media never lies or manipulates public opinion (of course).

    read up on the CFR sometime...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Very little if anything political happens merely by accident..

    timing is everything, because they haven't really said anything new here except yup....fire caused it.

    So no cracked and shattering windows with all this thermal expansion.....

    remarkable...one could say unbelievable...


    So you mean ASIDE from all of the windows that WERE seen shattering?
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  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    Very little if anything political happens merely by accident..

    timing is everything, because they haven't really said anything new here except yup....fire caused it.

    So no cracked and shattering windows with all this thermal expansion.....

    remarkable...one could say unbelievable...

    there is more to it than that. the link I posted said this..

    "The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure"

    I think you need to reserve your doubts until you read all 77 pages.
  • BinFrog wrote:
    So you mean ASIDE from all of the windows that WERE seen shattering?


    really for building #7 show me them.

    I saw a shiny windowed building coming straight down.

    what did you see?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

    Fox news is your friend. The media never lies or manipulates public opinion (of course).

    read up on the CFR sometime...


    Fox News is my friend? Ah, now your altered reality starts to make some sense to me. Thanks for clearning that up.
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
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  • spyguy wrote:
    there is more to it than that. the link I posted said this..

    "The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure"

    I think you need to reserve your doubts until you read all 77 pages.

    If they want to now say that non uniform damage caused an absolutely textbook perfect striaght down (and extremely fast) collapse all around the building they can....I don't see how it's remotely possible, and I think many architects would quickly agree with me.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrog wrote:
    Fox News is my friend? Ah, now your altered reality starts to make some sense to me. Thanks for clearning that up.


    Do you even know what the CFR is?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    If they want to now say that non uniform damage caused an absolutely textbook perfect striaght down (and extremely fast) collapse all around the building they can....I don't see how it's remotely possible, and I think many architects would quickly agree with me.

    my guess is you are no demo or physics expert. hopefully you keep an open mind and read the report.


    someone find the damn thing! :)
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Do you even know what the CFR is?



    If you had asked me that 8 years ago I would have said no.

    Do you know what the real world is?
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  • spyguy wrote:
    my guess is you are no demo or physics expert. hopefully you keep an open mind and read the report.


    someone find the damn thing! :)


    I'm not, but I have a respectable amount of first hand structural experience with altering buildings to code so they won't fall down.

    I do however think these licensed architects http://www.ae911truth.org (who are risking their careers) have a very good idea of what is reality and what appears to be fiction.

    Another problem is we are all floating on a boat of lies with this administration and the boat anchor is 9/11.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrog wrote:
    If you had asked me that 8 years ago I would have said no.

    Do you know what the real world is?

    well then you either still don;t know or are just asking stupid questions at this point..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    well then you either still don;t know or are just asking stupid questions at this point..


    Do I know what CFR stands for? Yes. Do I know the inner workings of the organization? No.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    really for building #7 show me them.

    I saw a shiny windowed building coming straight down.

    what did you see?


    i love this about the MT

    you ask for evidence

    he provides it

    you ignore it and go on to ask him if he knows what CFR is

    :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    dunkman wrote:
    i love this about the MT

    you ask for evidence

    he provides it

    you ignore it and go on to ask him if he knows what CFR is

    :D

    The best post of the entire thread thus far was post #8, and of course, it was almost completely ignored.
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    dunkman wrote:
    i love this about the MT

    you ask for evidence

    he provides it

    you ignore it and go on to ask him if he knows what CFR is

    :D



    That's what happens when you can only spew out little bits and fragmants of entirely useless conspiracies that aren't grounded in reality. I'm still waitin for him to inject an actual personal thought into his fear-monger/conspiracy posts. Copying and pasting, with the sporadic bolding of a sentence, does not a good argument make.
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  • dunkman wrote:
    i love this about the MT

    you ask for evidence

    he provides it

    you ignore it and go on to ask him if he knows what CFR is

    :D


    uhhh...that was 2 different people...

    you feeling ok?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    dg1979us wrote:
    The best post of the entire thread thus far was post #8, and of course, it was almost completely ignored.


    (agreed, but I jumped in kinda late)
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  • BinFrog wrote:
    Do I know what CFR stands for? Yes. Do I know the inner workings of the organization? No.

    well that's a stumbling block. It was created with intentions specifically to manipulate the media...

    social engineering and thought manipulation
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    uhhh...that was 2 different people...

    you feeling ok?



    hhmmmmm
    Very little if anything political happens merely by accident..

    timing is everything, because they haven't really said anything new here except yup....fire caused it.

    So no cracked and shattering windows with all this thermal expansion.....

    remarkable...one could say unbelievable...

    to which BinFrog replied
    BinFrog wrote:
    So you mean ASIDE from all of the windows that WERE seen shattering?

    to which you responded with
    really for building #7 show me them.

    I saw a shiny windowed building coming straight down.

    what did you see?


    and so he posted
    BinFrog wrote:

    which clearly shows the images of a building with its windows blown out everywhere.


    where did you see a shiny windowed building come down? show me them.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Did I miss how the "best post of this thread" explained how steel liquefied?

    also what about the forensics issue?

    no... it appears I didn't...

    good enough for some though...

    why look into it if you mind is already made up....it's much easier to elevate yourself over others by calling people crazy...

    :rolleyes:
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    well that's a stumbling block. It was created with intentions specifically to manipulate the media...

    social engineering and thought manipulation


    A stumbling block because I do not know the inner workings of 1 organization out of, what, 973,990,201 organizations in the world?
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    why look into it if you mind is already made up....it's much easier to elevate yourself over others by calling people crazy...

    :rolleyes:

    Funny, but that seems to describe you and your tactics/outlook to a tee.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Did I miss how the "best post of this thread" explained how steel liquefied?

    also what about the forensics issue?

    no... it appears I didn't...

    good enough for some though...

    why look into it if you mind is already made up....it's much easier to elevate yourself over others by calling people crazy...

    :rolleyes:


    post me one picture of where there is a river of molten steel? one of the most phorographed and videoed events in recent times and not one image of molten steel? weird that isnt it? i suppose the government will have retrieved them all of the various hundreds of members of the public who managed to take pics/footage that day.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    hhmmmmm



    to which BinFrog replied



    to which you responded with




    and so he posted


    which clearly shows the images of a building with its windows blown out everywhere.


    where did you see a shiny windowed building come down? show me them.


    Impact damage V.s. thermal expansion

    Please try to follow along. This is a new report from NIST citing thermal expansion.

    You put pressure on glass it breaks. There should have been windows popping out from heat expansion.

    I saw nothing of the sort. Neither did NIST.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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