9/11 Mysteries

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    El_Kabong wrote:
    not to mention a known hijacked plane (about 1 1/2 hrs after the first tower was hit) penetrated DC's multi-trillion $ defense network not once, but TWICE and they couldn't get any fighters from andrew's air force base (10 miles from DC) or anywhere else???? what kinda defense system is this that it could penetrate DC air space and the no fly zone, again 1 1/2 hours AFTER the first hit??????

    It's about as far a stretch of the imagination as it gets, and yet some still hold on stubbornly as they hack off the nose from their own face and keep chewing on it.

    mmm...nose tastes so yummy...must keep chewing (in between bites of hay)

    leave me to my fluffy plate of hay it's warm and cozy here!... :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    g under p wrote:
    This is just too much, another wealthy Bushite waiting in the wings to cease his turn for power and influence. Also I may be wrong but if next year President Bush imposes Marshall Law for whatever can't he still remain in office?

    Too much to think about, time for bed here on the right coast.

    Peace
    Earle


    easy on the fonts newbie.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:

    call usama? no, did you read the news report of the cia meeting usama in a hospital in dubyai shortly before?
    has this been proven? or is this some nice internet rumor that you jack off to?
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i guess they picked the 11th as a good day considering cheney and rummy changed a war exercise dealing w/ hijacked aircraft to be performed on the 11th far away....
    you hoenstly believe that cheney and rummy personally "picked" the day that 4 jet liners would crash into our buildings and kill thousands of innocent people? I mean really? if you believe that, who in the world can you possibly live here?
    El_Kabong wrote:
    oh, and oddly enough...what happened the day before 9/11?

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

    CBS) On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

    He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

    "In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

    Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.
    I am failing to see the link here. rummy was trying to cut military spending. ok and?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    easy on the fonts newbie.

    uh-oh...pit police

    quick hide it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    uh-oh...pit police

    quick hide it...

    i'll give him credit tho - he doesn't try to pretend otherwise
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    not to mention a known hijacked plane (about 1 1/2 hrs after the first tower was hit) penetrated DC's multi-trillion $ defense network not once, but TWICE and they couldn't get any fighters from andrew's air force base (10 miles from DC) or anywhere else???? what kinda defense system is this that it could penetrate DC air space and the no fly zone, again 1 1/2 hours AFTER the first hit??????

    this is something you have to accept. WE FUCKED UP THAT DAY.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    uh-oh...pit police

    quick hide it...

    all those different sizes and fonts are rather annoying no? i'm just looking out for your best interest roland
  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is something you have to accept. WE FUCKED UP THAT DAY.

    sure....one collosal sized fuck up!! and the engineers who decided WTC7 fucked up as well....and the people screening carry ons at the airport.....and the people working the radar towers......and........and.......and.......and.......and......and......and........and......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and.......and......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    sure....one collosal sized fuck up!! and the engineers who decided WTC7 fucked up as well....and the people screening carry ons at the airport.....and the people working the radar towers......and........and.......and.......and.......and......and......and........and......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and......and.......and.......and......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you left out a couple and's :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    sure....one collosal sized fuck up!! and the engineers who decided WTC7 fucked up as well
    you're right, they should have accounted for the potential for the 2 massive towers next to it to collapse one day. what were they thinking?
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    ....and the people screening carry ons at the airport.....
    actually they didnt. box cutters were actually allowed back then.
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    and the people working the radar towers
    actually they didnt either. they were the first to know which planes werent responding. what mistake did they make?

    http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1120655/photo_13_hires.jpg
  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you're right, they should have accounted for the potential for the 2 massive towers next to it to collapse one day. what were they thinking?

    actually they didnt. box cutters were actually allowed back then.

    actually they didnt either. they were the first to know which planes werent responding. what mistake did they make?

    http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1120655/photo_13_hires.jpg

    and every other building which was close by the twin towers that didn't collapse at free fall speed.......must have been a miracle!!!!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    and every other building which was close by the twin towers that didn't collapse at free fall speed.......must have been a miracle!!!!

    other buildings that were closer were no where near as tall and were designed differently. do you need a lesson on gravity too?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    69charger wrote:
    Jenga! :p


    The last time we played Jenga, and we took our nephew's toy airplane and tossed it at the top of the pile, it sure didn't fall straight down with explosions coming out of the corners. ;)
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Falling at the speed of gravity only happens when nothing from below opposes it.........like a massive network of reinforced steel beams for example.

    I think more than a few people have informed the 9/11 commission of this.

    But they choose to imagine alternate universes than our own.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    other buildings that were closer were no where near as tall and were designed differently. do you need a lesson on gravity too?

    your arguments are extremely worrying!! There is no "official" explanation to how WTC building 7 collapsed, yet you blame it on the buildings height and gravity!! There were buildings of comparible height closer then WTC7, look it
    up.

    Anyways man, i've seen your posts before, i know your point of view, i don't think that anything i say will at all open up your mind. You can't see a government sacrificing a few people for political gain, thats fine. But eventually if what is happening keeps up, the country in which you now live, where you can travel freely, will cease to exist. Hope it doesn't come to that.

    Watch out for National ID cards!! Operation Northwoods, google it!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Falling at the speed of gravity only happens when nothing from below opposes it.........like a massive network of reinforced steel beams for example.

    I think more than a few people have informed the 9/11 commission of this.

    But they choose to imagine alternate universes than our own.

    hmmm im sure thousands upon thousands of concrete falling doesnt help speeding things up.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    your arguments are extremely worrying!! There is no "official" explanation to how WTC building 7 collapsed, yet you blame it on the buildings height and gravity!! There were buildings of comparible height closer then WTC7, look it
    up.
    so I need an offical story before I can come up with my own common sense conclusions? dont be worry buddy boy. I can think for myself. besides, I've said all along, no one was hurt or killed when 7 came down. if there had been, I'd be more concerned.
    HANKTHELANK wrote:
    Anyways man, i've seen your posts before, i know your point of view, i don't think that anything i say will at all open up your mind. You can't see a government sacrificing a few people for political gain, thats fine. But eventually if what is happening keeps up, the country in which you now live, where you can travel freely, will cease to exist. Hope it doesn't come to that.

    Watch out for National ID cards!! Operation Northwoods, google it!

    I know hanky, i'm shakin in my boots. america will soon disappear and I will live in slavery to bush and the neo-cons. I've already begun to dig my bunker.

    and its insulting to me, as an american, that you think my government orchestrated, planned, and carried out the worst attack in my countries history. sorry if I get a little worked up about it.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hmmm im sure thousands upon thousands of concrete falling doesnt help speeding things up.

    No it would slow it down actually. The bottom parts of the building not affected pushes upwards to oppose any downwards force applied to it. The tensile strength of cold unaffected steel is incredibly high.

    Not exactly comparable to thin air.

    It's surprising how this eludes people.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • HANKTHELANK
    HANKTHELANK Posts: 89
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so I need an offical story before I can come up with my own common sense conclusions? dont be worry buddy boy. I can think for myself. besides, I've said all along, no one was hurt or killed when 7 came down. if there had been, I'd be more concerned.



    I know hanky, i'm shakin in my boots. america will soon disappear and I will live in slavery to bush and the neo-cons. I've already begun to dig my bunker.

    and its insulting to me, as an american, that you think my government orchestrated, planned, and carried out the worst attack in my countries history. sorry if I get a little worked up about it.



    insulted?.......... get over it!!!!

    Looked up Operation Northwoods yet???.....i'll make it easy on you, here's what Wikipedia has on it......don't trust wikipedia, keep looking, you'll find the offiial document in less then a minute.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    No it would slow it down actually. The bottom parts of the building not affected pushes upwards to oppose any downwards force applied to it. The tensile strength of cold unaffected steel is incredibly high.

    Not exactly comparable to thin air.

    It's surprising how this eludes people.

    I dont know dude. I wont argue with you about this. I do not know the physics or engineering enough to spare with you.

    its just beyond me to think explosives were planted throughout 2 of the largest buildings in the world and then set off at such a perfect time without one single person noticing or saying something.

    you would agree that money and power is a powerful thing. someone would have sooo much to gain by coming forward and saying they were involved. not only money but that person would go in the history books forever. this is all while having nothing to gain by staying quiet.

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