Miraculous Messages from Water

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I think the notion of the experiment supersedes the results. Regardless...the desired result is achieved for some...so it took place technically in some plane of existence.

    I someone posts a good vibe...in reality it was just pixels..but it can/did evoke emotion, bonding good feelings etc... so it's more than just pixels in reality.

    Depends on the perception and what makes one happy or more connected to another.

    that's how I see it.

    Yea, you can always make shit up illogically to maintain your comfort zone. Angelica has plenty of tips for doing that.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I think you are insane. That's just my belief.

    Sanity; How closely our view of reality matches reality.

    Funny, you seem to be the only one lashing out emotionally here because people disagree with you. Calling friends of yours insane and stupid. What's sanity again?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Angelica and Abook can pour water on me anytime ;)

    I've always enjoyed a good water fight :)
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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Correct. I put this out here for anyone interested. I know not everyone will believe or agree and that doesn't matter to me. They can post all day long about how much they disagree, in fact. I really don't have a need to have everyone believe what I choose to believe. If they do, great...I love sharing those connections. I sure as hell won't throw a tantrum when they choose not to see eye to eye, though. All I ask for is respect when we do encounter this differences not hostility.
    When people only look at the objective level of reality, they minimize the stunning depths and textures of what is truly there. I see it as the western world plague at this time. However, the times are a changing. :) Like what Roland referred to about it being "more than just pixels" or that it depends on perception and what makes us more happy and connected--millions of people worldwide are aware of this.

    In another thread, Ahnimus is touting the virtues of neurolinguistic programming which is not considered scientific by many. So we all pick our battles to reflect our own subjective view in the end.

    In the developmental psychology models, the view where besides the objective level, the vast perceptions and views of all individuals is respected, is a view that is considered to be an evolved level from the purely objective levels. Again, this level also embraces objectivity, as well. This level is where the mass of humans are headed, so we don't really have to lose sleep over it. Just put the word out, and people will gravitate to it in their own good time. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Angelica and Abook can pour water on me anytime ;)

    I've always enjoyed a good water fight :)
    .
    Nothing like some good clean fun! ;):D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    When people only look at the objective level of reality, they minimize the stunning depths and textures of what is truly there. I see it as the western world plague at this time. However, the times are a changing. :) Like what Roland referred to about it being "more than just pixels" or that it depends on perception and what makes us more happy and connected--millions of people worldwide are aware of this.

    In another thread, Ahnimus is touting the virtues of neurolinguistic programming which is not considered scientific by many. So we all pick our battles to reflect our own subjective view in the end.

    In the developmental psychology models, the view where besides the objective level, the vast perceptions and views of all individuals is respected, is a view that is considered to be an evolved level from the purely objective levels. Again, this level also embraces objectivity, as well. This level is where the mass of humans are headed, so we don't really have to lose sleep over it. Just put the word out, and people will gravitate to it in their own good time. :)


    As usual, you say it so so well. :) I'm not losing sleep over it either...I'm full of hope now moreso than ever before.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Call me insane...but I'm going to the gym because I'm already late.

    There I will experience water as drink, shower, sweat, and steam (sauna). I will appreciate it in whatever form it presents itself and be happy...

    catch ya'll later!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    Nothing like some good clean fun! ;):D

    **Splashes around in our puddles** :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    **Splashes around in our puddles** :D
    :D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Yup, you are all insane :p
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yup, you are all insane :p
    :p:D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    Ooooh I love NLP. I have a great book on it. "Prerequisites to personal genius" by Richard Bandler.

    Where does language come from?

    I have a friend who worked in a spiritual/metaphysical bookstore who was into the NLP type books offered, I was into the more spiritual aspects of it, but we found a way to meet in the middle and he is actually the one who introduced me to Emoto, and Carl Jung, who does a great job at demystifying religion and mythology. Good stuff!!!
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    binger wrote:
    Ooooh I love NLP. I have a great book on it. "Prerequisites to personal genius" by Richard Bandler.

    Where does language come from?

    I have a friend who worked in a spiritual/metaphysical bookstore who was into the NLP type books offered, I was into the more spiritual aspects of it, but we found a way to meet in the middle and he is actually the one who introduced me to Emoto, and Carl Jung, who does a great job at demystifying religion and mythology. Good stuff!!!

    NLP is based on the presupposition that we all behave perfectly according to our knowledge and view of reality. It is anti-spiritual if you ask me.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    NLP is based on the presupposition that we all behave perfectly according to our knowledge and view of reality. It is anti-spiritual if you ask me.
    All of psychology is based on the fact that we all behave perfectly according to our knowledge and view of reality. This is why all views are considered valid in psychology.

    NLP is its own distinct branch with myriad details.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    All of psychology is based on the fact that we all behave perfectly according to our knowledge and view of reality. This is why all views are considered valid in psychology.

    NLP is its own distinct branch with myriad details.

    Right, my point is it's all based on determinism. It's anti-spiritual.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Right, my point is it's all based on determinism. It's anti-spiritual.
    To you, who is lacking spiritual perception. To binger or myself, we perceive it differently.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I'll ride the wave....where it takes me....

    .........feel the vibe........... embraces me
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    To you, who is lacking spiritual perception. To binger or myself, we perceive it differently.

    I'm lacking psychosis, yes. Not something I'd be proud to have either.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm lacking psychosis, yes. Not something I'd be proud to have either.
    It's pretty obvious when you're lacking a reasoned argument, like for about the past 5 or more posts to me. ;)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    It's pretty obvious when you're lacking a reasoned argument, like for about the past 5 or more posts to me. ;)

    What's to argue about, you don't believe in reason. You believe in belief.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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