Authority
Byrnzie
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Anyone else have a problem with it? I don't get on with authority - in whatever shape or form; bosses, pub landlords, train ticket inspectors, the cops, ushers in cinemas, message pit moderators, bouncers. I just have a problem with the whole lot. People in authority make me uncomfortable - fear and loathing.
They often remind me of Nurse Ratched from 'One flew over the cuckoos nest'.
I don't like people who see it as their job to control you. They make me want to stir shit up and throw a spanner in the works.
Maybe a bit of a generalization, but you get my drift.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Edit: something else that annoys me - people who laugh in cinemas at things that aren't funny because they think this makes it seem like they 'get it', even though there's nothing to get. I.e, I saw Bowling for Columbine and there were a bunch of people in the cinema who kept laughing throughout this film at people, and situations, that weren't funny. What they didn't seem to understand was that Bowling for Columbine isn't funny. They were laughing because they they thought that laughing made them look clever. People like this make me sick.
I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?
They often remind me of Nurse Ratched from 'One flew over the cuckoos nest'.
I don't like people who see it as their job to control you. They make me want to stir shit up and throw a spanner in the works.
Maybe a bit of a generalization, but you get my drift.
Anyone else feel the same way?
Edit: something else that annoys me - people who laugh in cinemas at things that aren't funny because they think this makes it seem like they 'get it', even though there's nothing to get. I.e, I saw Bowling for Columbine and there were a bunch of people in the cinema who kept laughing throughout this film at people, and situations, that weren't funny. What they didn't seem to understand was that Bowling for Columbine isn't funny. They were laughing because they they thought that laughing made them look clever. People like this make me sick.
I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?
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Yes, especially at work!Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/20140
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Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos, I’m an agent of chaos , and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair....0
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Pj_Gurl wrote:Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos, I’m an agent of chaos , and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair....
I think the human race needs a good shaking up.
As for chaos, would you say that the world is presently an orderly place that deserves to be protected and maintained in its current state by people who obey orders, wear pin-striped suits, and wave flags?
I think Timothy Leary may have been on to something - put L.S.D in the water supply and watch these jobsworths run around like headless chickens.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:I think the human race needs a good shaking up.
As for chaos, would you say that the world is presently an orderly place that deserves to be protected and maintained in its current state by people who obey orders, wear pin-striped suits, and wave flags?
I think Timothy Leary may have been on to something - put L.S.D in the water supply and watch these jobsworths run around like headless chickens.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?0
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Pj_Gurl wrote:We had a lollipop man (that's what we called the people who monitored our school crossings), who looked like the fat controller from Thomas the Tank Engine. I seriously did not like him. He used to make us wait for ages before we could cross. He used to look at us with such a happy look while he was making us wait for every car that came within a mile of us. That's what i call abusing authority. Evil old man. Grrrrr....
What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me.0 -
Here's a nice little quote for ya:
"The great task of our time is to blow up all existing institutions - to destroy."
Henrik Ibsen
Shit, I'm turning into the fucking Unabomber! :eek:0 -
Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.
"Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
FUCK YES I say"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Jeremy1012 wrote:Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.
"Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
FUCK YES I say
'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold' - I've heard this line before, somewhere.
Cheers.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me.0
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Byrnzie wrote:What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me.0
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Byrnzie wrote:'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold' - I've heard this line before, somewhere.
Cheers.
So, you consider pub landlords to be authority figures?"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Jeremy1012 wrote:So, you consider pub landlords to be authority figures?
Yeah, especially when they call last orders. Bastards!0 -
Jeremy1012 wrote:Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.
"Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
FUCK YES I say
"A peoples dream died there. It was a beautiful dream. . . .the nations hoop is broken and scattered. There is no center any longer, and the sacred tree is dead." - Black Elk0 -
Byrnzie wrote:Yeah, especially when they call last orders. Bastards!
:D
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Jeremy1012 wrote:Yeah :cool: I generally drink really slowly, at my own leisurely pace when last orders is called just because I don't like being rushed by an establishment which I patronise. That's just vulgar
:D
When I was about 18 me and my mates used to egg each other on to see who could be the last one to leave after last orders was called. It often got to the point where the landlord would go and call the police to have us ejected.0 -
Byrnzie wrote:When I was about 18 me and my mates used to egg each other on to see who could be the last one to leave after last orders was called. It often got to the point where the landlord would go and call the police to have us ejected.
In one of my drunker moments, a few months back, I was in a bar and when the barman told us that they were closing I told him to fuck off, he got angry and then we left in a hurry before he threw us out or kicked my ass. Later that night, on the long and treacherous (in my state) walk home, I nearly got arrested for walking into oncoming traffic, unaware that the car coming towards me was an undercover police car. My friend managed to talk them into sending us on our way but it was close for a bit,
In my waking moments the these two memories merged in a haze of recollections of drunken stupidity and my initial thoughts were "shit, did I get arrested last night for being drunk and telling a police officer to fuck off?!" It was quite worrying for a moment.
And from then on I tried to respect authority a little more... at least when drunk"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
Yes.. as my user name states.. I think it is our responsibility and right to question authority.. do not assume that their word is the end all be all and the final conclusion.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull0 -
Good to see you around again Byrnzie0
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