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ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
Anyone else have a problem with it? I don't get on with authority - in whatever shape or form; bosses, pub landlords, train ticket inspectors, the cops, ushers in cinemas, message pit moderators, bouncers. I just have a problem with the whole lot. People in authority make me uncomfortable - fear and loathing.
They often remind me of Nurse Ratched from 'One flew over the cuckoos nest'.

I don't like people who see it as their job to control you. They make me want to stir shit up and throw a spanner in the works.

Maybe a bit of a generalization, but you get my drift.
Anyone else feel the same way?

Edit: something else that annoys me - people who laugh in cinemas at things that aren't funny because they think this makes it seem like they 'get it', even though there's nothing to get. I.e, I saw Bowling for Columbine and there were a bunch of people in the cinema who kept laughing throughout this film at people, and situations, that weren't funny. What they didn't seem to understand was that Bowling for Columbine isn't funny. They were laughing because they they thought that laughing made them look clever. People like this make me sick.

I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?
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  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Yes, especially at work!
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos, I’m an agent of chaos , and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair....
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Introduce a little anarchy, upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos, I’m an agent of chaos , and you know the thing about chaos? It’s fair....

    I think the human race needs a good shaking up.

    As for chaos, would you say that the world is presently an orderly place that deserves to be protected and maintained in its current state by people who obey orders, wear pin-striped suits, and wave flags?
    I think Timothy Leary may have been on to something - put L.S.D in the water supply and watch these jobsworths run around like headless chickens.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I think the human race needs a good shaking up.

    As for chaos, would you say that the world is presently an orderly place that deserves to be protected and maintained in its current state by people who obey orders, wear pin-striped suits, and wave flags?
    I think Timothy Leary may have been on to something - put L.S.D in the water supply and watch these jobsworths run around like headless chickens.
    No. I just think the Joker is badass and i like his quotes... ;)
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?
    We had a lollipop man (that's what we called the people who monitored our school crossings), who looked like the fat controller from Thomas the Tank Engine. I seriously did not like him. He used to make us wait for ages before we could cross. He used to look at us with such a happy look while he was making us wait for every car that came within a mile of us. That's what i call abusing authority. Evil old man. Grrrrr....
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    No. I just think the Joker is badass and i like his quotes... ;)

    I wish you'd put names with these quotes of yours! Damn! :rolleyes:

    ;)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    We had a lollipop man (that's what we called the people who monitored our school crossings), who looked like the fat controller from Thomas the Tank Engine. I seriously did not like him. He used to make us wait for ages before we could cross. He used to look at us with such a happy look while he was making us wait for every car that came within a mile of us. That's what i call abusing authority. Evil old man. Grrrrr....

    What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me. :)
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Here's a nice little quote for ya:

    "The great task of our time is to blow up all existing institutions - to destroy."

    Henrik Ibsen


    Shit, I'm turning into the fucking Unabomber! :eek:
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.

    "Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity."

    FUCK YES I say :p
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.

    "Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity."

    FUCK YES I say :p

    'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold' - I've heard this line before, somewhere.

    Cheers.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me. :)
    Ahh so lollipop men weren't just exclusive to Aus! I live in the US but grew up in, and went to school in Australia.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Byrnzie wrote:
    What country are you in, on? I lived in England and we called them lollipop man and lady too. I didn't have to cross any roads on my to school at that age so they were never able to impose their authoritarian rule upon me. :)
    Ahh so lollipop men weren't just exclusive to Aus! I live in the US but grew up in, and went to school in Australia.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Byrnzie wrote:
    'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold' - I've heard this line before, somewhere.

    Cheers.
    It's an oft-quoted line. Their is a book by Chinua Achebe and an album by The Roots called Things Fall Apart too.

    So, you consider pub landlords to be authority figures? :D
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    So, you consider pub landlords to be authority figures? :D

    Yeah, especially when they call last orders. Bastards!
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Byrnzie, are you familiar with the poem The Second Coming by Yeats? It's supposed to be a lament of the decline of society and the ruling classes but really all he does is pump me up for it.

    "Turning and turning in the widening gyre,
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity."

    FUCK YES I say :p


    "A peoples dream died there. It was a beautiful dream. . . .the nations hoop is broken and scattered. There is no center any longer, and the sacred tree is dead." - Black Elk
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Yeah, especially when they call last orders. Bastards!
    Yeah :cool: I generally drink really slowly, at my own leisurely pace when last orders is called just because I don't like being rushed by an establishment which I patronise. That's just vulgar ;):D
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Yeah :cool: I generally drink really slowly, at my own leisurely pace when last orders is called just because I don't like being rushed by an establishment which I patronise. That's just vulgar ;):D

    When I was about 18 me and my mates used to egg each other on to see who could be the last one to leave after last orders was called. It often got to the point where the landlord would go and call the police to have us ejected.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Byrnzie wrote:
    When I was about 18 me and my mates used to egg each other on to see who could be the last one to leave after last orders was called. It often got to the point where the landlord would go and call the police to have us ejected.
    :D

    In one of my drunker moments, a few months back, I was in a bar and when the barman told us that they were closing I told him to fuck off, he got angry and then we left in a hurry before he threw us out or kicked my ass. Later that night, on the long and treacherous (in my state) walk home, I nearly got arrested for walking into oncoming traffic, unaware that the car coming towards me was an undercover police car. My friend managed to talk them into sending us on our way but it was close for a bit,

    In my waking moments the these two memories merged in a haze of recollections of drunken stupidity and my initial thoughts were "shit, did I get arrested last night for being drunk and telling a police officer to fuck off?!" It was quite worrying for a moment.

    And from then on I tried to respect authority a little more... at least when drunk :o:p
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    Yes.. as my user name states.. I think it is our responsibility and right to question authority.. do not assume that their word is the end all be all and the final conclusion.
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  • SundaySilenceSundaySilence Posts: 536
    Good to see you around again Byrnzie
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Throwing "a spanner in the works" because you don't like authority is just childish...plain and simple. I used to do that all the time and eventually realized I was just being a moron.

    Lots of people complain about authority figures until they get helped by one. We should constantly question and keep authority in check with democratic oversight, but we should also respect the need for it too.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    i don't have a problem with people in authority per se. if someone is in an authority position and actually does a good job of it, leaves ego out of it and is focused on what needs to be accomplished, more often than not what one bristles at in regars to *authority* is a non-issue. it is the ABUSE, and the power-trippy types....that undermine authority and give it all a bad name. and it IS interesting, from a human perspective...how many do bristle at authority....how some just fall in line, completely unaware.....and just how many do choose to abuse whatever perceived 'power' of authority they may have. i find those with the least amount of 'control' seem to be the ones who most abuse whatever 'authority' they may have. not all of course, but in my personal experience....happens often enough. so i have a very mixed view of it....good and bad......really depends on who is involved. so to say i take issue with *authority* in and of itself, just doesn't say or mean much to me.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Byrnzie wrote:
    "A peoples dream died there. It was a beautiful dream. . . .the nations hoop is broken and scattered. There is no center any longer, and the sacred tree is dead." - Black Elk


    Nice quote. There's one I've read for sure. Me and my native hommies...

    Anyway, Yes authority and I do not mix well. Never have. I've always found a way to do whatever I want and fuck those who say different.
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  • unifiedsceneunifiedscene Posts: 462
    pick your battles.

    challenging abuses of government authority = good

    being a dick to a bouncer or some poor teenage kid working as an usher at a movie theater that is just doing their job in some lame attempt to show how cool and rebellious and independent you are = you're an obnoxious douchebag
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    on the long and treacherous (in my state) walk home, I nearly got arrested for walking into oncoming traffic, unaware that the car coming towards me was an undercover police car. My friend managed to talk them into sending us on our way but it was close for a bit

    I decided it was a good idea to play dodgems with the traffic one night - the college last day of term, after drinking 4 Stellas, a bottle of scotch, and a bottle of wine. I was dancing in the road after having dodged a few cars until one car traveling at about 50mph sent me flying through the air. I didn't break any bones as I was so drunk but the car was apparently a write-off. Thank God for alcohol! Without it I would have been pushing up daisies. (Then again, I wouldn't have been dancing in the road either). Anyway, I always thought that the Green Cross man looked like a nob-end.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Saturnal wrote:
    Throwing "a spanner in the works" because you don't like authority is just childish...plain and simple. I used to do that all the time and eventually realized I was just being a moron.

    Lots of people complain about authority figures until they get helped by one. We should constantly question and keep authority in check with democratic oversight, but we should also respect the need for it too.

    Like authority in this day and age deserves any respect. And I'm not talking about the individual, I'm talking about those people that perpetuate the tread-mill, the status quo, the turbine - to take a term from 'One Flew Over The Cuckoos nest'. You want to contribute to that soul destroying, money-spinning, war machine? God for you. I'd rather see it burn to the ground. This world needs more individuals, not more robots.
  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Respect My Authoritaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Like authority in this day and age deserves any respect.
    I said the NEED for authority still needs to be respected and accepted. That doesn't mean any particular authority system that exists in the world today deserves our respect...in fact, most of them don't imo.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Edit: something else that annoys me - people who laugh in cinemas at things that aren't funny because they think this makes it seem like they 'get it', even though there's nothing to get. I.e, I saw Bowling for Columbine and there were a bunch of people in the cinema who kept laughing throughout this film at people, and situations, that weren't funny. What they didn't seem to understand was that Bowling for Columbine isn't funny. They were laughing because they they thought that laughing made them look clever. People like this make me sick.

    I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm bored. Anyone home?

    me and the wifey went to watch Les Miserables and the guy sitting next to my wife, he was obviously gay, was laughing at every fucking line BEFORE the actor had even said/sung it!?!?!?!

    anyway, she was getting quite upset with him and she didnt want to say anything.. so we swapped seats... and after about 24 mins of me muttering and glaring at him he got the idea. after the interval he swapped seats with one of his lady friends... it makes me mad just thinking back to that actually!!!

    bus drivers to me are the worst fuckers in the world for authoritarianism.. they are the fucking spawn of the devil and Myra Hindley.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    unifiedscene wrote:
    being a dick to a bouncer or some poor teenage kid working as an usher at a movie theater that is just doing their job in some lame attempt to show how cool and rebellious and independent you are = you're an obnoxious douchebag

    Depends who the bouncer or usher is. Though in my experience most people in these jobs try too hard to please their bosses and feel the need to adopt a certain bravado.
    We need more individuals, not more jobsworths.
    People are generally ridiculous.
    The sooner people realize that there are actually no 'bosses', no 'superiors', and no 'authority', the better off we will be.
    Too many people are too easily offended.
    Not enough people in this world have been told to fuck off.

    Just a thought. Feel free to disagree. :)
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