The U.S. has the biggest baddest military ever, fuck yeah!

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so this war and our involvement in this war was unnecessary because you say so? well damn why didnt you say so ? you could have saved 9 million lives.
    many scholars have the same opinion. what was ww1 about? and was it on US soil? nice try.
    this makes no sense. you also forget to mention we were attacked by a foreign military because we were unprepared. which is what the poster was proving.

    um, pearl harbor was a naval yard armed to the teeth.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    satansbedbugs wrote:
    I say we blow the fuckers up!!! ( Booger , Revenge of the Nerds Part 1 ) lmao.. JK , I love ya big guy.


    this coming from a guy scared of the muslim neighbors ;)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I have several times. and you respond with "will you answer my question? " or "you dont know shit"...its like debating with a brick wall

    whatever. go ahead and quote those answers for me. we are talking about maintaining a $1 trillion a year military, not a coast gaurd or national gaurd.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    many scholars have the same opinion. what was ww1 about? and was it on US soil? nice try.
    great, I'm sure those same scholars, and the scholar that you are, will say all wars are unnecessary, nice try.


    my2hands wrote:
    um, pearl harbor was a naval yard armed to the teeth.
    but yet we were attacked and nearly destroyed. its called being unprepared.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    whatever. go ahead and quote those answers for me. we are talking about maintaining a $1 trillion a year military, not a coast gaurd or national gaurd.
    its nice to make up numbers? currently spending will be around 650 billion which is because we are currently fighting 2 wars. when we leave Iraq, spending will drop. just as it has after all other wars.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jeffbr wrote:
    Funny how you talk as if you're some expert on geopolitical affairs, and continue to ignore reality. In post #9 you talk about man's nature. I completely disagree with your premise. You build your philosophy on the notion that man is inherently peace-loving. I (and other "armchair generals") build our philosophy on the notion that we have always, and will always see groups and nations struggling for power over one another.

    You are welcome to your pipe dream. I would hate to disabuse you of that belief. But just because you choose to ignore millenia of data to the contrary and think we don't need to defend ourselves, doesn't mean the rest of us are obligated to do so.

    feel free to have that opinion.

    America has been attacked once, a naval base thousands of miles off the mainland during one of the largest war's in human history. thats your millenia of data in a nutshell. we are not a struggling african country. we are not threatened by any nation.

    feel free to litter this beautiful planet with disgusting nuclear weapons for your children to play with. and i will continue towards my "pipe dream"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its nice to make up numbers? currently spending will be around 650 billion which is because we are currently fighting 2 wars. when we leave Iraq, spending will drop. just as it has after all other wars.


    i will site later where i got that #. it includes CIA, NASA, etc funding that is actually military spending. unfortuntelt i gotta run.

    you dotn think NASA is just trying to get to the moon to play golf do you :rolleyes:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    great, I'm sure those same scholars, and the scholar that you are, will say all wars are unnecessary, nice try.
    i am no scholar. i posed a question, and i dont htink it has been answered yet. i am begging someone to change my mind and show me why this is all neccessary


    but yet we were attacked and nearly destroyed. its called being unprepared.

    who was nearly destroyed? the naval base or the country?


    the last war fough on our soil was between ourselves...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Artist: Tool
    Song: Aenima
    Album: Aenima


    Some say the end is near.
    Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
    I certainly hope we will.
    I sure could use a vacation from this

    Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
    Freaks

    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
    Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

    Fret for your figure and
    Fret for your latte and
    Fret for your hairpiece and
    Fret for your lawsuit and
    Fret for your prozac and
    Fret for your pilot and
    Fret for your contract and
    Fret for your car.

    It's a
    Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
    Freaks

    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
    Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

    Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
    Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
    Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
    Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

    Some say the end is near.
    Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
    I certainly hope we will cuz
    I sure could use a vacation from this

    Silly shit, stupid shit...

    One great big festering neon distraction,
    I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

    Learn to swim.

    Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
    Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
    Fuck all his clones.
    Fuck all those gun-toting
    Hip gangster wannabes.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck retro anything.
    Fuck your tattoos.
    Fuck all you junkies and
    Fuck your short memory.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck smiley glad-hands
    With hidden agendas.
    Fuck these dysfunctional,
    Insecure actresses.

    Learn to swim.

    Cuz I'm praying for rain
    And I'm praying for tidal waves
    I wanna see the ground give way.
    I wanna watch it all go down.
    Mom please flush it all away.
    I wanna watch it go right in and down.
    I wanna watch it go right in.
    Watch you flush it all away.

    Time to bring it down again.
    Don't just call me pessimist.
    Try and read between the lines.

    I can't imagine why you wouldn't
    Welcome any change, my friend.

    I wanna see it all come down.
    suck it down.
    flush it down.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    i am no scholar. i posed a question, and i dont htink it has been answered yet. i am begging someone to change my mind and show me why this is all neccessary
    ALL of it is not necessary. but we are one of the largest countries in the world with alot to protect. since you like to ask a lot of questions. what do you think a acceptable amount of spending would be?




    my2hands wrote:
    who was nearly destroyed? the naval base or the country?


    the last war fough on our soil was between ourselves...
    the entire nava force you spoke of. and hawaii is our soil.
  • Royals32
    Royals32 Posts: 160
    my2hands wrote:
    so far the answers for mainiating this massive military and continuing to drain our wealth into it is:

    mexican drug lords, iran, and north korea

    you have to be fucking kidding


    if anyone with some geo-political sense would answer they would have already thrown out Russia taking alaska. becuase of geography and oil. that is the only legitimate answer. you boys need to brush up your skills, as oppsoed to blindly supporting shit you dont even understand

    Skills? Insulting and degrading people is all of a sudden a measurable skill? In that case, you my friend, have MAD SKILLS!

    So this was just one big quiz where you asked a question to which you already had an answer in mind, and because nobody answered "correctly" you're the only one with geo-political sense?

    You must work for the media. You took less than one line from my post and twisted that to appear as if I said these are THE threats. Please read the posts, don't just look at the words. What I said in a nutshell, was that they are POTENTIAL THREATS AND IF THEY UNITE, THERE COULD BE TROUBLE AND IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO BE PREPARED. You ask how that could happen? Answer this: how could four planes be hijacked and get flown all over the North East for 45 minutes and then crash into three buildings? It's not a question of how. The how doesn't matter. It's the IF. So rather than claiming that people have no geo-political sense, how about using some common sense yourself and use your brain instead of your emotions to get your point across.

    To me, the bottom line is that the US had pissed off a lot of countries. Those countries are angry and they hate the USA. If they could attack the US they would. One of the reasons they don't (aside from the fact that they can't) is that they know they'll get their asses kicked. As soon the US cuts back on it's "insurance policy," it's all over.

    You are not the only person who's entitled to an opinion, and bullying other posters doesn't make your opinion any more valid.

    Chill out, man, it's Friday.
    #==(o )

    You are not your job.
    You are not how much money you have in the bank.
    You are not the car you drive.
    You are not the contents of your wallet.
    You are not your fucking khakis.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    if your not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem
  • ProvidenceHunter
    ProvidenceHunter Posts: 52
    my2hands wrote:
    wrong


    ww1 was completely unnecassary, especially our involvement, and the US government had to lie to the public to get support, and they eliminated free speech with the sedition act and jailed anyone that spoke out against the war

    ww2: was caused by the german, japansese, and italian oublic who bought their leaders lies, beleived they need to dominate militarily, and bought hook line and sinker the fear propaganda, thinking that enemies were lurking adn were an immenent threat. when in reality they were the fucking threat (sound familiar)

    so to the original poster (not you jlew) out down the US military history for a second and take a look at world history


    as far as being weak and soldiers dying, i think that is pretty weak? very weak to support this fucking killing machine we have funded and applauded the whole way like cheerleaders


    Your shit is week son.

    I was not talking about what caused WWI and WWII. I was talking about the condition of our military at the beginning of those wars. At the beginning of both of those conflicts we had a small poorly funded poorly equiped military.

    Currently there is not a nation with a military to threaten to the US. But that is currently. Stuff can change pretty fast. Look at history. How long did it take Hitler to build his war machine.

    Further back how long did it take Spain to become the world power and look at how short there time at the top lasted. How long did it Napoleon to build an Army that took over most of Europe.

    What makes you think that in 10 to 15 years there will not be another power to threaten the US. Our technology edge is quickly fading. And there are a lot of short sited wishfull thinkers like you that think if we can just get ride of the Army war will go away.

    I am telling you by the year 2020 there will be a military power equal to or greater than ours. Some of you probable like that, but knowing history it scares me.
    Peace through superior firepower!
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    if your not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem
    hows the campfire and sing along going?
  • Royals32
    Royals32 Posts: 160
    my2hands wrote:
    if your not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem


    A stitch in time saves nine.
    #==(o )

    You are not your job.
    You are not how much money you have in the bank.
    You are not the car you drive.
    You are not the contents of your wallet.
    You are not your fucking khakis.
  • Royals32
    Royals32 Posts: 160
    Royals32 wrote:
    A stitch in time saves nine.

    Shit, that was my 50th post! Oh well, at least it's got my trademark stupid sense of humour all over it.

    Good bye "Ghost" tag!
    #==(o )

    You are not your job.
    You are not how much money you have in the bank.
    You are not the car you drive.
    You are not the contents of your wallet.
    You are not your fucking khakis.
  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    my2hands wrote:
    Artist: Tool
    Song: Aenima
    Album: Aenima


    Some say the end is near.
    Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
    I certainly hope we will.
    I sure could use a vacation from this

    Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
    Freaks

    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
    Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

    Fret for your figure and
    Fret for your latte and
    Fret for your hairpiece and
    Fret for your lawsuit and
    Fret for your prozac and
    Fret for your pilot and
    Fret for your contract and
    Fret for your car.

    It's a
    Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of
    Freaks

    Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA
    The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
    Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
    Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

    Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
    Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
    Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
    Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

    Some say the end is near.
    Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
    I certainly hope we will cuz
    I sure could use a vacation from this

    Silly shit, stupid shit...

    One great big festering neon distraction,
    I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

    Learn to swim.

    Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
    Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck L Ron Hubbard and
    Fuck all his clones.
    Fuck all those gun-toting
    Hip gangster wannabes.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck retro anything.
    Fuck your tattoos.
    Fuck all you junkies and
    Fuck your short memory.

    Learn to swim.

    Fuck smiley glad-hands
    With hidden agendas.
    Fuck these dysfunctional,
    Insecure actresses.

    Learn to swim.

    Cuz I'm praying for rain
    And I'm praying for tidal waves
    I wanna see the ground give way.
    I wanna watch it all go down.
    Mom please flush it all away.
    I wanna watch it go right in and down.
    I wanna watch it go right in.
    Watch you flush it all away.

    Time to bring it down again.
    Don't just call me pessimist.
    Try and read between the lines.

    I can't imagine why you wouldn't
    Welcome any change, my friend.

    I wanna see it all come down.
    suck it down.
    flush it down.


    Alright, let's get together with my2hands and worship Tool! Apparently, James Maynard whatzisface is a foreign policy expert.

    Remember, men: IF YOUR FAVORITE BAND SAYS IT, IT MUST BE TRUE.
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Alright, let's get together with my2hands and worship Tool! Apparently, James Maynard whatzisface is a foreign policy expert.

    Remember, men: IF YOUR FAVORITE BAND SAYS IT, IT MUST BE TRUE.


    Don't start that shit. It's pretty obvious that's not even what he was using those lyrics for.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    Don't start that shit. It's pretty obvious that's not even what he was using those lyrics for.
    I have no clue why people post lyrics to songs. and song breaks or whatever. kind of annoys me actually.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I have no clue why people post lyrics to songs. and song breaks or whatever. kind of annoys me actually.


    Bite me. :p


    Lyrics can often express an emotion or thought better than or perhaps more artistically than we could ourselves. Why would you get annoyed because someone chose to express themselves differently than yourself. I love sharing a nicely written piece of music with people...it doesn't bother me in the least that you choose not to, however.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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