The U.S. has the biggest baddest military ever, fuck yeah!

jlew24asu

ProvidenceHunter wrote:

Ok. I'm not for war per se. I just believe in being prepared for the worst. I don't think that wanting a strong military means you want war and like to destroy stuff just for fun or profit.

thank you. this is all thats need to be said in this entire thread.

catefrances

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

derka derka derka....

America...fuck yeah....comin again to save the motherf-ing day yeeeah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgdPcQWdjng

America...
America...
America, FUCK YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother f-ing day yeah,
America, FUCK YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, FUCK YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, FUCK YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it’s the dream that we all share; it’s the hope for tomorrow

FUCK YEAH!

McDonalds, FUCK YEAH!
Wal-Mart, FUCK YEAH!
The Gap, FUCK YEAH!
Baseball, FUCK YEAH!
NFL, FUCK, YEAH!
Rock and roll, FUCK YEAH!
The Internet, FUCK YEAH!
Slavery, FUCK YEAH!

FUCK YEAH!

Starbucks, FUCK YEAH!
Disney world, FUCK YEAH!
Porno, FUCK YEAH!
Valium, FUCK YEAH!
Reeboks, FUCK YEAH!
Fake Tits, FUCK YEAH!
Sushi, FUCK YEAH!
Taco Bell, FUCK YEAH!
Rodeos, FUCK YEAH!
Bed bath and beyond (Fuck yeah, Fuck yeah)

Liberty, FUCK YEAH!
White Slips, FUCK YEAH!
The Alamo, FUCK YEAH!
Band-aids, FUCK YEAH!
Las Vegas, FUCK YEAH!
Christmas, FUCK YEAH!
Immigrants, FUCK YEAH!
Popeye, FUCK YEAH!
Democrats, FUCK YEAH!
Republicans (republicans) <

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(fuck yeah, fuck yeah)
Sportsmanship
Books

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America,_Fuck_Yeah

oh come on now, the US didnt give the world slavery.

but all the rest? FUCK YEAH!!!

Songburst

jlew24asu wrote:

thank you. this is all thats need to be said in this entire thread.

I think that the point of the thread is that there are more important things to spend money on rather than defense. You even said yourself that the US overspends on aggression (I refuse to call it defense these days). There is nothing wrong with having a strong military. There is something inherently wrong when that stong military is abused and used to as a tool to enforce fucked up foreign policy all over the world.

bootlegger10

Question: Lets say that the United States never spent any money on its military. Are there still wars going on? Is there still genocide in Darfur? Is Saddam still killing his people? Is Iran still looking to get a nuclear weapon? Does Israel even exist anymore?

Fuckers, get off your high horses and stop blaming the U.S. for the problems of the world that will always exist. A lot of you act like the Iraq war is the first ever war. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. There are people around the world (like in Iraq and Darfur) who have to live it every day while you sob's whine with your high-speed internet connections downloading the latest movie because you feel entitled to everything.

Abookamongstthemany

bootlegger10 wrote:

Question: Lets say that the United States never spent any money on its military. Are there still wars going on? Is there still genocide in Darfur? Is Saddam still killing his people? Is Iran still looking to get a nuclear weapon? Does Israel even exist anymore?

Fuckers, get off your high horses and stop blaming the U.S. for the problems of the world that will always exist. A lot of you act like the Iraq war is the first ever war. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. There are people around the world (like in Iraq and Darfur) who have to live it every day while you sob's whine with your high-speed internet connections downloading the latest movie because you feel entitled to everything.

So because there is warring and killing going on...we need to contribute to it, as well?

catefrances

bootlegger10 wrote:

Question: Lets say that the United States never spent any money on its military. Are there still wars going on? Is there still genocide in Darfur? Is Saddam still killing his people? Is Iran still looking to get a nuclear weapon? Does Israel even exist anymore?

Fuckers, get off your high horses and stop blaming the U.S. for the problems of the world that will always exist. A lot of you act like the Iraq war is the first ever war. Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. There are people around the world (like in Iraq and Darfur) who have to live it every day while you sob's whine with your high-speed internet connections downloading the latest movie because you feel entitled to everything.

all i feel entitled to is to live. all anyone should be entitled to is to live free. regardless of who they are or where they live, what religion they practise or whether they are female or male.

i fell off my high horse in the 80s.

all i can say is that if the US never spent money on its military, the world would be a very different palce indeed. they've done good and they've done stuff as a country they should be ashamed of. but i also imagine any other country in the same position would more than likely have made the same mistakes. the US didn't invent military and economic imperialism but they sure as hell learnt the lessons well.

Vedderlution_Baby

ProvidenceHunter wrote:

The excerpt says the study was presented at the meeting. It does not say they all agree on its results.

The nuclear winter idea has be prover wrong. I didn't just come up with this.




Wow. Become more informed before you post. The first 2 bombs were called "Little Boy", and "Fat Man".

Little Boy's blast was estimated between 12-15 kilotons.
Fat Man's blast was estimated to be around 21 kilotons.

The largest nuclear weapon ever tested was done by the Russians. They claimed it was a 100 megaton blast. Most believe it was only a 50 megaton blast.

Lets do some math. If a kiloton = 1000 tons of TNT the total yield of 50 (lets go with "Fat Man" he was bigger) Fat Man's that could fuck us up pretty bad would be 50*21= 1000 kilotons or 1 mega ton.

Lets take that 1 mega ton and times it buy 50 to equal Russia's bomb.

1000kilotons*50 = 50000 kilotons or 50 megatons. I wonder how many Fat Mans would it take to equal the Russia bomb and see if it is more then the 50 that would fuck us up pretty bad.

50000 kilotons/21 kilotons = 2381..... oh shit thats a little more than 50 Where is this cooling that is suposed to take place. If only it only take 50 to cause as much as the artical leads you to believe we should be really fucked.

Not to mention all of the nuclear test blasts the US, Russia, and France. Have done.

If the 50 Fat Mans were droped on population centers the death toll from the blast would be very high but there would be no nuclear winter. There would be no mass continental radiation contamination.


I am not saying all to to be like pro nuclear weapons and nuclear war I am doing it because there are a lot of myths about nuclear weapons and to be an asshole a little.

Just because they are scary does not mean you should not know more about them and there effects.

I know the names of the bombs dropped on japan. It was a play on words.


A bomb set off here and there for testing will, more than likely, not have any major effect on the world as we know it. A nuclear war, fought between powers with a arsenal of several hundred, if not thousand of nukes will have disastrous results for both regions and it's population. I never said there shouldn't be any nuclear weapons at all. Mostly because I don't want to get into a discussion on whether or not nuking japan was necessary. I do think tens of thousands of nuclear weapons are completely unnecessary and could (notice I'm changing my stance. I'm not back pedaling like a politician.) push mankind to the brink of extinction if a worst case scenario took place.

ProvidenceHunter

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I know the names of the bombs dropped on japan. It was a play on words.


A bomb set off here and there for testing will, more than likely, not have any major effect on the world as we know it. A nuclear war, fought between powers with a arsenal of several hundred, if not thousand of nukes will have disastrous results for both regions and it's population. I never said there shouldn't be any nuclear weapons at all. Mostly because I don't want to get into a discussion on whether or not nuking japan was necessary. I do think tens of thousands of nuclear weapons are completely unnecessary and could (notice I'm changing my stance. I'm not back pedaling like a politician.) push mankind to the brink of extinction if a worst case scenario took place.

I agree there is probably an excessive amount of Nuclear weapons. A full scale war would be disastrous, in loss of life and economically. But it would not bring human kind any-where close to extinction.

Purple Hawk

my2hands wrote:

The U.S. has the biggest baddest military ever, fuck yeah!

who would you rather give the #1 seat up to?

catefrances

Purple Hawk wrote:

who would you rather give the #1 seat up to?

australia.

game of beach cricket followed by a bbq and a few icy beers and she'll be right mate. never a shot fired in anger.

my2hands

ProvidenceHunter wrote:

I agree there is probably an excessive amount of Nuclear weapons.

that word in bold says it all. you have to be absolutely insane to doubt for one second there is way too many nuclear weapons on this planet in the control of humans.

probably? give me a break. dont be afraid challenge yoursefl or your beliefs.

there is, without doubt, way too many nuclear weapons.

Purple Hawk

catefrances wrote:

australia.

game of beach cricket followed by a bbq and a few icy beers and she'll be right mate. not a shot fired in anger.

Trust me, I'd trust my faith in Howard over Bush anyday skip the cricket and how about a game of bocce?

AND...this is an important point, don't mistake grilling for BBQ

catefrances

Purple Hawk wrote:

Trust me, I'd trust my faith in Howard over Bush anyday skip the cricket and how about a game of bocce?

AND...this is an important point, don't mistaking grilling for BBQ

LMAO!!! i have minus zero faith in john howard.
and no way! i can play cricket, can't go the bocce. i'll bowl slow for you.

and what exactly is the difference between grilling and bbq?

Purple Hawk

catefrances wrote:

LMAO!!! i have minus zero faith in john howard.
and no way! i can play cricket, can't go the bocce. i'll bowl slow for you.

and what exactly is the difference between grilling and bbq?

grilling is slopping burgers etc on the grill....


BBQ is slow cooking meat for 10 to 14 hours at loooooooowww temperatures...so the meat falls off the bone....don't get me started!

i never played cricket, but it's similar to baseball, right?

bocce is the ultimate...finese, skill, strategery...it's all there.

catefrances

Purple Hawk wrote:

grilling is slopping burgers etc on the grill....


BBQ is slow cooking meat for 10 to 14 hours at loooooooowww temperatures...so the meat falls off the bone....don't get me started!

i never played cricket, but it's similar to baseball, right?

bocce is the ultimate...finese, skill, strategery...it's all there.

we use the term bbq for anything cooked on the grill. be it slow cooked or a nice piece of whatever meat you fancy. in my entire life ive never had a burger cooked on a grill/bbq.


no hawk, cricket is not similiar to baseball, though both are ballgames. it also requires finesse, strategy and skill. also the ability to not fall asleep when fielding out near the boundary.

Purple Hawk

catefrances wrote:

we use the term bbq for anything cooked on the grill. be it slow cooked or a nice piece of whatever meat you fancy. in my entire life ive never had a burger cooked on a grill/bbq.


no hawk, cricket is not similiar to baseball, though both are ballgames. it also requires finesse, strategy and skill. also the ability to not fall asleep when fielding out near the boundary.

grilling burgers is not BBQ'ing...slow cooking pork, brisket...BBQing is all about slooooooow cooking...tender, and juicy meat....unfortunately, you can only bet REAL BBQ in the red states

i think cricket is similar to baseball, isn't there a pitcher, adn a batter? and bases?

catefrances

Purple Hawk wrote:

grilling burgers is not BBQ'ing...slow cooking pork, brisket...BBQing is all about slooooooow cooking...tender, and juicy meat....unfortunately, you can only bet REAL BBQ in the red states

i think cricket is similar to baseball, isn't there a pitcher, adn a batter? and bases?

cricket is not similar to baseball. trust me on this. in cricket there is a bowler, a wicketkeeper, 9 other fielders and 2 batsmen from the opposing team. a successful hit of a delivery(pitch if you will) can result in anywhere between 1 and 6 runs. even more if there is an misfield or overthrow. the batsmen, one on strike, the other not stand at opposite ends of a pitch. and run when the opportunity arises between what is termed wickets. there is no 3 strikes and youre out. you must get 10 players out before you get to bat. the 11th player is not out but can not continue without a batting partner, so he retires not out.

sponger

I agree that it's ridiculous to have all these nukes, but I thought this thread was about the military in general. I don't necessarily think of nukes when I think of our military. It seems to me like the only people who think about our nukes are the people who wish they had them or can't wait to use them.

Example is Ahmedinejad. He once said something about how Bush's ego emanates through his nuclear arsenal. Bush might be a bit of a war-monger, but since when has he even given a fuck about nukes?

The prime minister of France once said that he would nuke any country that sponsored a terrorist attack against French soil. Where's the hate for the prime minister of France? It's a double-standard.

When I think of the might of the US military, I think of smart bombs and navy seals. I don't see anything wrong with having either of those.

Kann

ProvidenceHunter wrote:

I agree there is probably an excessive amount of Nuclear weapons. A full scale war would be disastrous, in loss of life and economically. But it would not bring human kind any-where close to extinction.

This is a ridiculous discussion. First of all you will not find anywhere on this planet a serious person able to tell you, for sure, what could happen to the world on a full scale nuclear world. Because, as humans, we're used to building stuff that have unknown consequences to us, consequences we can only imagine and debate on forums.
Second, the problem is not even to bring the human kind to extinction, it's the capacity of doing 10,000 times what happened in Japan : killing civilians to stop a war?? I don't want to fight over if it was legitimate, but the nuclear bomb (along with any weapon targeting civilians) is a shitty idea. It's too late now so I understand that each country needs to have some, but that many bombs? It's too bad the reduction in nuclear weapons just got out of style and is not talked about anymore today.

Songburst

Purple Hawk wrote:

who would you rather give the #1 seat up to?

What do you think would happen if the US went 1 on 1 with China today?