I would just like to point out that Polk, president of the united states of america, initiated the Mexican-american war by sending in troops into mexico then telling the public that they attacked first.
the only 2 countries you could list with a straight face are russia and china. china has no navy and is historically isolationist. and russia has its won problems to worry about, let alone invading and occupying a large country like the US for no reason?
you cant give an example.
jlew, please dont dismiss this. really think about it for a while dude.
i'm not worried about a country invading us. I do not think we should be defenseless, however.
I would just like to point out that Polk, president of the united states of america, initiated the Mexican-american war by sending in troops into mexico then telling the public that they attacked first.
well back then part of texas was mexico after it won independence from spain. a war was fought, borders changed. I like texas
i'm not worried about a country invading us. I do not think we should be defenseless, however.
ok, so how much is needed? you said you wanted to be the strongest and best? that means we continue in the current direction full speed ahead.
i would prefer to be "the best" and the "strongest" in health care, education, civil rights, economy, etc... instead we will continue to focus on dominating the globe with violence, when we could dominate it with our hearts and minds. what a fucking waste this human race is sometimes.
just ask Gandhi. ne beat the british empire with simply his will and coordination, and they had all the guns
and besides, your other guy with the gun is imaginary, at best
Briton was also a country with educated some what informed citizens that knew it was fucked up to kill innocent people. And Briton did not have much of an interest in India any more.
How do you think Gandhi's strategy would have worked against the Talaban, or Sadam, or Kim Joung Ill, or King Cobra.
He was a good man and used the most effective strategy he could to accomplish change, but his way won't work in every situation.
There are a lot of bullies out there, whether they are in the form of a country, a rebel army, a group of fundamentalists or whatever. "Invasion" isn't always as simple as a bunch of boats showing up at the beach and troops storming the coast. I really don't think anyone is realistically interested in "invading" the US in the traditional sense of the word.
I do think however that the US is building an arsenal of weapons to deter anybody from even thinking about it. If I were a bully, I'd look for the weakest, most vulnerable place to attack. As long as the US has the military power it does (and even if it increases that power), potential attackers will have to think long and hard about the chances of success, and thusly, go somewhere else. Why attack a country you KNOW you can't beat.
So stock up and make every potential "invader" just flip on by the USA chapter in his book of places to attack.
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You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
they are just as real as the country that would invade us...
i still have not seen one reasonable answer to my question. because there is no answer. maybe one day the majority will figure out we are the world aggressor and are not threatened at all by outside countries taking us over. just keep sending that check to uncle sam so he can dominate the planet through force in your name
they are just as real as the country that would invade us...
i still have not seen one reasonable answer to my question. because there is no answer. maybe one day the majority will figure out we are the world aggressor and are not threatened at all by outside countries taking us over. just keep sending that check to uncle sam so he can dominate the planet through force in your name
jesus fucking christ. I answered your questions several times now. I cant help it if you dont find them acceptable. go back and read again
Ahh yes...the infamous republican diatribe...what a piece of work... straight from the mouths of idiots with bruised ego's. boo hoo for the fragile republican ego...
chill out.
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jesus fucking christ. I answered your questions several times now. I cant help it if you dont find them acceptable. go back and read again
I think that is the issue. You have answered, and realistically. My2hands has a noble vision of a world where everyone can hold hands around the campfire singing Kumbaya. That would be great. But there is no precedent for it. It is something to strive for, but not at the expense of ignoring reality. If My2hands can show a period of time where there was no conflict, aggression or war happening on this planet, we can perhaps look more closely at what was happening at the time and emulate it. But I believe that search will be in vain. Plan and hope for the campfire songs, but live in reality.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
they are just as real as the country that would invade us...
i still have not seen one reasonable answer to my question. because there is no answer. maybe one day the majority will figure out we are the world aggressor and are not threatened at all by outside countries taking us over. just keep sending that check to uncle sam so he can dominate the planet through force in your name
Iran? North Korea? Surely those are potential threats, no?
Individually I'm sure the US could handle them, but if a few of these "axis of evil" countries launch a unified attack on the US, would you not agree that it would be beneficial to be prepared?
Better still, like I said a few posts ago - until things balance out (maybe hundreds of years from now...) it's better to be over-prepared and intimidate potential threats out of coming over here.
The White House knows it's pissed enough people off out there that it knows the only way to keep the dogs at bay is to build an armed forces program big enough that nobody will want to fuck with them.
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
I think that is the issue. You have answered, and realistically. My2hands has a noble vision of a world where everyone can hold hands around the campfire singing Kumbaya. That would be great. But there is no precedent for it. It is something to strive for, but not at the expense of ignoring reality. If My2hands can show a period of time where there was no conflict, aggression or war happening on this planet, we can perhaps look more closely at what was happening at the time and emulate it. But I believe that search will be in vain. Plan and hope for the campfire songs, but live in reality.
bullshit. i am not a hippy singing kumbaya. i am average joe just like you. one day you guys will figure out you can have ceratin beliefs without fitting your cute little stereotypes
you can only give 1 example of where the US was actually attacked by a foreign country. Pearl Harbor. i am not talking about the world here folks. i live in america so i am focused on america with this issue.
you can say i am singing kumbaya, and i can say your a blood thirsty jackass that just wants a strong military to make you feel like a tough guy.
because it is not fucking needed. period. and none of you armchair generals has been able to come even close to disproving that. feel free to try
and honestly, the quesation has not been answered. mexico is obviously an idiotic answer
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I live without fear everyday. if I lived in north korea, I might not feel so safe.
I'm not buying a gun out of fear. It ain't my style.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
the one without the gun wins.
just ask Gandhi. ne beat the british empire with simply his will and coordination, and they had all the guns
and besides, your other guy with the gun is imaginary, at best
ok, so how much is needed? you said you wanted to be the strongest and best? that means we continue in the current direction full speed ahead.
i would prefer to be "the best" and the "strongest" in health care, education, civil rights, economy, etc... instead we will continue to focus on dominating the globe with violence, when we could dominate it with our hearts and minds. what a fucking waste this human race is sometimes.
you cant even admit that the mexican war was an act of agression by the US to aquire the west :rolleyes:
and thats a fact
the only group of people that should have had nuclear weapons were the fucking native americans
I know. we have been angels since the beginning of time.
no one said that. the truth is the truth.
you really cant admit the mexican war was an act of aggresion and a land grab? you have to be fucking kidding
do you dispute this?
to ignore the mistakes of yesterday is as bad as committing the original act. a knowledge of history and the mistakes are the key to making progress
only a pussy cant admit his faults and wrong doings
this was your justification for our massive military earlier... now that you agree and say we wouldnt be invaded, what is the justification?
Briton was also a country with educated some what informed citizens that knew it was fucked up to kill innocent people. And Briton did not have much of an interest in India any more.
How do you think Gandhi's strategy would have worked against the Talaban, or Sadam, or Kim Joung Ill, or King Cobra.
He was a good man and used the most effective strategy he could to accomplish change, but his way won't work in every situation.
Superman?
I do think however that the US is building an arsenal of weapons to deter anybody from even thinking about it. If I were a bully, I'd look for the weakest, most vulnerable place to attack. As long as the US has the military power it does (and even if it increases that power), potential attackers will have to think long and hard about the chances of success, and thusly, go somewhere else. Why attack a country you KNOW you can't beat.
So stock up and make every potential "invader" just flip on by the USA chapter in his book of places to attack.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
You'll notice that most superheroes are indeed American.
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they are just as real as the country that would invade us...
i still have not seen one reasonable answer to my question. because there is no answer. maybe one day the majority will figure out we are the world aggressor and are not threatened at all by outside countries taking us over. just keep sending that check to uncle sam so he can dominate the planet through force in your name
chill out.
I think that is the issue. You have answered, and realistically. My2hands has a noble vision of a world where everyone can hold hands around the campfire singing Kumbaya. That would be great. But there is no precedent for it. It is something to strive for, but not at the expense of ignoring reality. If My2hands can show a period of time where there was no conflict, aggression or war happening on this planet, we can perhaps look more closely at what was happening at the time and emulate it. But I believe that search will be in vain. Plan and hope for the campfire songs, but live in reality.
Iran? North Korea? Surely those are potential threats, no?
Individually I'm sure the US could handle them, but if a few of these "axis of evil" countries launch a unified attack on the US, would you not agree that it would be beneficial to be prepared?
Better still, like I said a few posts ago - until things balance out (maybe hundreds of years from now...) it's better to be over-prepared and intimidate potential threats out of coming over here.
The White House knows it's pissed enough people off out there that it knows the only way to keep the dogs at bay is to build an armed forces program big enough that nobody will want to fuck with them.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
i wasnt talking about just you
a few people have said "we could be invaded" yet they still have not given 1 credible scenario
its not my fault most people are full of shit and have no clue what they are talking about
bullshit. i am not a hippy singing kumbaya. i am average joe just like you. one day you guys will figure out you can have ceratin beliefs without fitting your cute little stereotypes
you can only give 1 example of where the US was actually attacked by a foreign country. Pearl Harbor. i am not talking about the world here folks. i live in america so i am focused on america with this issue.
you can say i am singing kumbaya, and i can say your a blood thirsty jackass that just wants a strong military to make you feel like a tough guy.
because it is not fucking needed. period. and none of you armchair generals has been able to come even close to disproving that. feel free to try
and honestly, the quesation has not been answered. mexico is obviously an idiotic answer
this just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. why would iran or north koreas invade us, and how the hell would they do that?
the propaganda is amazingly powerful shit that you think iran can invade a country like America and actually be a threat :rolleyes:
and no, they are not even close to being a threat