Boycott The Nfl

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sonicreducer wrote:
    i don't like the nfl anyways. i never have, just because of the money. i don't watch mlb either. college is more entertaining anyway. so, im with you,...


    if you like college better then nfl (or pros) because of the youthful compeitive spirt so be it, but becuase of the money?? has anyone here ever taken an economics course?
  • OneLove
    OneLove Posts: 563
    hippiemom wrote:
    Well, as I said, I gave up on them years ago anyway, so it's neither here nor there as far as me buying a ticket or even watching a game. GO BLUE!!!

    I just think that $37 million (and that includes money raised by players and fans) is a pretty measly amount from an enterprise as profitable as the NFL, particularly considering that they stand to make a buck or two from the renovated Superdome. Why the fuck is FEMA paying for this?!!?! "Federal Emergency Management Administration" ... the lack of a football stadium might be a sad thing for fans in New Orleans, but it hardly qualifies as a "federal emergency." There are thousands of people who can't go into their houses, there's rubble all over the city, and FEMA is giving taxpayer dollars to the NFL?! What is wrong with this picture?

    The situation down there is tragic. No doubt about that. But to blame the NFL, when they have contributed 200 million or more in money to Katrina relief, and 10000's of man hours with the players going down there to contribute. It just dosn't make sense to me.

    Why is FEMA helping to rebuild the superdome? Because it is New Orleans Property. It is rented space, which the NFL did contribute to the rebuilding. The revenues, and jobs associated with having professional sports there is a great contribution to rebuliding that area, from the ground up.

    I heard while watching the game last night that there are folks who do not have steady jobs or housing situations who still found a way to purhase tickets to Saints games. The reason? Because it ment something to them that the Saints were comming back home, it is a small step, but an important one.
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    The team has no repsonsibility to the stadium other than fulfilling the terms of the lease. And I don't think the lease includes provisions for rebuilding in event of a natural disaster. The Saints probably could have bought their way out of the lease and left town.. would that have solved anything, helped get people working again and back on their feet??? no. The NFL gave money, yeah they probably could have given more but they didn't have to give any in the first place.

    And you site the estimated value of the Redskins at $1 billion... true but that doesn't translate into a resale value of that amount. Plus it takes into account everything that the Redskins control (TV, stadium, parking, concessions and every other avenue of income they have). Not just the value of the team and ownership.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its funny how people, including me, disagree with you 110%. to all his own I guess.

    I suppose. The thing is - I love high school and college football, but I can't stand to watch the pros. The game seems so sterile.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    know1 wrote:
    I suppose. The thing is - I love high school and college football, but I can't stand to watch the pros. The game seems so sterile.


    I see what your saying. but I enjoy the talent level of the pros. it is far superior to that of anything else. obviously. thats why they are pros
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    There are all kinds of things that have been destroyed in this city. Perhaps repairing the Superdome isn't the most important thing on our plate.

    But the whole stadium was a mess after the storm; and having a giganitic crumbling eye-sore in the middle of town would have done nothing to improve the situation down here.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.


    i dont go to the circus and i dont watch tulane games, and i dont think they have a multi-billion $ TV contract either


    off-topic: i dont want to see any south philly red sox fans jumping onto the phillies bandwagon now that the sox stink like ass ;)
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.


    why should the federal governemnt (me and you) pay the bill, we dont own the superdome either?
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    see ya on sunday buddy

    you dont know me very well do you :D
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    you dont know me very well do you :D


    thankfully no. maybe you should read through this thread, you might change your mind.
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    my2hands wrote:
    why should the federal governemnt (me and you) pay the bill, we dont own the superdome either?

    for the same reasons that the federal government bails out companies when they go bankrupt and contribute money to support state run programs.. to help stablize the community and help continue economic growth.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    the bottom line is that the federal government favored the wealthy's intertests over the poor and average joe, by funneling money into a stadium while people are still living in trailers becasue their homes have been destroyed?

    i guess i just think that is fucked up, the NFL should have said no thank you, we can do this ourselves, please use the federal $ to help the people of the region

    175 is a drop in the bucket to the NFL, shit teams have payrolls higher than that

    not to mention the fact that the NFL uses tax $ to build these stadiums
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    why should the federal governemnt (me and you) pay the bill, we dont own the superdome either?


    me personally, as a taxpayer, have no problem with taxpayer money going towards this effort. people dont seem to understand the amount of inspiration this stadium brings to this devastated city.
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    my2hands wrote:
    i dont go to the circus and i dont watch tulane games, and i dont think they have a multi-billion $ TV contract either


    off-topic: i dont want to see any south philly red sox fans jumping onto the phillies bandwagon now that the sox stink like ass ;)


    Like the NCAA doesn't have a lucrative tv contract either?

    The Sugar Bowl alone is raking in 80 million dollars for the NCAA and that is held in ... The Super Dome.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    chromiam wrote:
    for the same reasons that the federal government bails out companies when they go bankrupt and contribute money to support state run programs.. to help stablize the community and help continue economic growth.


    what comes first, a football stadium or housing, schools, and hospitals?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    please use the federal $ to help the people of the region


    this is what you dont get. the $ IS helping people in the region.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Like the NCAA doesn't have a lucrative tv contract either?

    The Sugar Bowl alone is raking in 80 million dollars for the NCAA and that is held in ... The Super Dome.


    i think you are helping to make my point actually, why not have the people who have profited (and will continue to do so) foot the bill? that includes the circus, car shows, the NCAA and whoever else uses the place to make a buck ( the NFL being the largest i assume)
  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Solat13 wrote:
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.

    Excellent post. The NFL has done a lot to help New Orleans start rebuilding. To suggest boycotting them is crazy. Hell, just the fact that ESPN and the NFL brought monday night football to New Orleans is a big sign that the NFL is working to help that city grow.

    I think rebuilding the Superdome as quickly as they did was the right thing to do. Its going to take a long time to fix all the levees. Where are people going to go if another huricane rolls through?

    For those who dislike the NFL for its greed, and prefer college football. At least the NFL pays its players. Colleges just whore out football and basketball players and make millions off their ability. Why hasn't the NCAA gone to a playoff system for football? Maybe because colleges fear losing the millions in revenue from playing in Bowl games. Don't pretend that college football is more pure then the NFL, because they are both about the money.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    this is what you dont get. the $ IS helping people in the region.

    so they can get drunk and pay $200 for a ticket?

    i do "understand" chief...the argument goes that you need business for people to come back and have jobs? i think you need people in HOMES before you can worry about a fucking football team

    do you "understand" my point?

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