Boycott The Nfl

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

WHO IS WITH ME?
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    well since i haven't ever gone to a pro game and i don't have nfl sunday ticket I'll happily continue to boycott giving them my money and watch I'll watch them at home. There's no way I'm boycotting the NFL when the Bears are this good. but i do agree that it wasn't the best use of money; you do make good points
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Yeah, they're a bunch of greedy fucks. It's been over ten years since I took all my Browns gear out to the tree lawn after the NFL broke their own rules and allowed Art Modell and Al Lerner to steal our team, then extort money from the fans to get back what they had no right to take in the first place. Haven't watched a game since. This is one more reason to ignore them, not as though I needed one.
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  • my2hands wrote:
    After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

    I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


    The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

    WHO IS WITH ME?

    You'll be watching football again by next month, no doubt about it. I agree with everything you said but if you grew up watching and playing football it's in your blood and you can't get rid of it. Good luck though!!
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    see ya on sunday buddy
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    reditalian wrote:
    You'll be watching football again by next month, no doubt about it. I agree with everything you said but if you grew up watching and playing football it's in your blood and you can't get rid of it. Good luck though!!
    There's always college and, better yet, high school ball. More fun to watch anyway, who needs the NFL?
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I already boycott it. What a boring sport pro football is. I only watch super bowl just for the party.
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  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    I think that part of the reason that the city paid the majority for the repairs to the superdome is due to the fact that LOTS of sports are played there, from the college team to basketball (I believe I heard that during the game last night).

    The superdome is city owned, and the Saints contract runs out in a year or two. The relationship was strained between the Saints and the city long before Katrina.

    Is the NFL a profitable business? Yes, for sure. Would it have been nice for them to pitch in a bit more? Absolutely.

    I don't think boycotting the NFL really proves anything, even as quick as folks are to jump on a cause these days. Would you suggest boycotting college ball, and the NBA as well? I don't see how either of those two organizations are any less guilty.

    Check out the links. Perhaps this will give you a greater perspective on things.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-katrina-nflcharity-glance&prov=ap&type=lgns

    This article is really worth reading:

    http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-25/1159086828317680.xml&coll=1
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    know1 wrote:
    I already boycott it. What a boring sport pro football is. .


    its funny how people, including me, disagree with you 110%. to all his own I guess.
  • What you don't see is the millions of dollars that professional sports bring to the area they are in. There are probably 1000 people or more who work at the stadium, so they provide jobs to locals. All the tourists that come in to watch the games, they are buying hotel rooms and going out to eat in local resturants. Pro sports do a lot for their communities.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    OneLove wrote:
    I think that part of the reason that the city paid the majority for the repairs to the superdome is due to the fact that LOTS of sports are played there, from the college team to basketball (I believe I heard that during the game last night).

    The superdome is city owned, and the Saints contract runs out in a year or two. The relationship was strained between the Saints and the city long before Katrina.

    Is the NFL a profitable business? Yes, for sure. Would it have been nice for them to pitch in a bit more? Absolutely.

    I don't think boycotting the NFL really proves anything, even as quick as folks are to jump on a cause these days. Would you suggest boycotting college ball, and the NBA as well? I don't see how either of those two organizations are any less guilty.

    Check out the links. Perhaps this will give you a greater perspective on things.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-katrina-nflcharity-glance&prov=ap&type=lgns

    http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-25/1159086828317680.xml&coll=1
    OK, now I'm confused. I see that the NFL has made pitifully small contributions, but who is paying the rest? You say the city of New Orleans, but I thought they were broke? my2hands says FEMA ... any documentation of that anywhere?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    NFL actually gave 20 million. the rest was provided by insurance and FEMA. could the NFL do more? sure but boycott the NFL? little extreme to me
  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    hippiemom wrote:
    OK, now I'm confused. I see that the NFL has made pitifully small contributions, but who is paying the rest? You say the city of New Orleans, but I thought they were broke? my2hands says FEMA ... any documentation of that anywhere?

    My guess is FEMA has something to do with it, but I honestly don't know for sure.

    Since the Redskins were mentioned, I tied to come up with a quick link, one of many ways that the 'skins have contributed.


    http://www.redskins.com/community/communitynews.jsp?id=17556

    Acts liks this were repeated all over the NFL over the past year. I just think that it is important to understand the whole issue, not one bit of information before you call it a "cause" to boycot the NFL.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    OneLove wrote:
    My guess is FEMA has something to do with it, but I honestly don't know for sure.

    Since the Redskins were mentioned, I tied to come up with a quick link, one of many ways that the 'skins have contributed.


    http://www.redskins.com/community/communitynews.jsp?id=17556

    Acts liks this were repeated all over the NFL over the past year. I just think that it is important to understand the whole issue, not one bit of information before you call it a "cause" to boycot the NFL.

    looks like they have done their part to me. thanks for posting. but could they do more? ok sure. but fuck it, lets boycott. i mean seriously.


    what would an acceptable amount be? 100 million? 400 million? 1 billion?
  • OneLove wrote:
    I think that part of the reason that the city paid the majority for the repairs to the superdome is due to the fact that LOTS of sports are played there, from the college team to basketball (I believe I heard that during the game last night).

    The superdome is city owned, and the Saints contract runs out in a year or two. The relationship was strained between the Saints and the city long before Katrina.

    Is the NFL a profitable business? Yes, for sure. Would it have been nice for them to pitch in a bit more? Absolutely.

    I don't think boycotting the NFL really proves anything, even as quick as folks are to jump on a cause these days. Would you suggest boycotting college ball, and the NBA as well? I don't see how either of those two organizations are any less guilty.

    Check out the links. Perhaps this will give you a greater perspective on things.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-katrina-nflcharity-glance&prov=ap&type=lgns

    This article is really worth reading:

    http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-25/1159086828317680.xml&coll=1


    You nailed it. They rent the stadium. The NFL was generous kicking in!

    If you lived in an appartment, and a tornado caused 1.2 million in
    damage....would you kick in 100 000....no...maybe 10 000...no...hmm

    Also, the NFL is not as rich as you think. Why do you think teams relocate? Better view?

    There are a lot of thriving teams out there, but not every team is loaded...and yeah the owner might be worth a lot, but why should they be soley responsible for building a 600mil dollar stadium that others will use to, and becomes a city landmark? That is a big contribution to a city that may turn there backs after a few loosing years, in turn financially ruining you.

    Also, just because a team is worth a billion dollars, that does not meant the owner has that kind of money.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    for puttling MNF on cable....yea I'm a cheapskate.....or is it I'd watch even more TV if I had cable.......so fighting getting cable...and now...no more Monday Night Footbal.....fkers.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    OneLove wrote:
    My guess is FEMA has something to do with it, but I honestly don't know for sure.

    Since the Redskins were mentioned, I tied to come up with a quick link, one of many ways that the 'skins have contributed.


    http://www.redskins.com/community/communitynews.jsp?id=17556

    Acts liks this were repeated all over the NFL over the past year. I just think that it is important to understand the whole issue, not one bit of information before you call it a "cause" to boycot the NFL.
    Well, as I said, I gave up on them years ago anyway, so it's neither here nor there as far as me buying a ticket or even watching a game. GO BLUE!!!

    I just think that $37 million (and that includes money raised by players and fans) is a pretty measly amount from an enterprise as profitable as the NFL, particularly considering that they stand to make a buck or two from the renovated Superdome. Why the fuck is FEMA paying for this?!!?! "Federal Emergency Management Administration" ... the lack of a football stadium might be a sad thing for fans in New Orleans, but it hardly qualifies as a "federal emergency." There are thousands of people who can't go into their houses, there's rubble all over the city, and FEMA is giving taxpayer dollars to the NFL?! What is wrong with this picture?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    Well, as I said, I gave up on them years ago anyway, so it's neither here nor there as far as me buying a ticket or even watching a game. GO BLUE!!!

    I just think that $37 million (and that includes money raised by players and fans) is a pretty measly amount from an enterprise as profitable as the NFL, particularly considering that they stand to make a buck or two from the renovated Superdome. Why the fuck is FEMA paying for this?!!?! "Federal Emergency Management Administration" ... the lack of a football stadium might be a sad thing for fans in New Orleans, but it hardly qualifies as a "federal emergency." There are thousands of people who can't go into their houses, there's rubble all over the city, and FEMA is giving taxpayer dollars to the NFL?! What is wrong with this picture?


    having the superdome back does more then you think or choose to believe
  • i don't like the nfl anyways. i never have, just because of the money. i don't watch mlb either. college is more entertaining anyway. so, im with you,...
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  • hippiemom wrote:
    Well, as I said, I gave up on them years ago anyway, so it's neither here nor there as far as me buying a ticket or even watching a game. GO BLUE!!!

    I just think that $37 million (and that includes money raised by players and fans) is a pretty measly amount from an enterprise as profitable as the NFL, particularly considering that they stand to make a buck or two from the renovated Superdome. Why the fuck is FEMA paying for this?!!?! "Federal Emergency Management Administration" ... the lack of a football stadium might be a sad thing for fans in New Orleans, but it hardly qualifies as a "federal emergency." There are thousands of people who can't go into their houses, there's rubble all over the city, and FEMA is giving taxpayer dollars to the NFL?! What is wrong with this picture?

    The superdome alone is responsible for a HUGE chunk of the jobs, and incoming money in NO. Its been stated repeatedly in here, but noone wants to even recognize that point. Between hotels, restaurants, gas stations, etc, MANY things in NO center around having the Superdome operational. Whats so hard to get about this? What good is rebuilding a home when there's no jobs etc to boost the local economy, so they can pay their bills NEXT month. I think many of you just see someone/a group of wealthy people "not doing enough" and make a beeline to crucify them, without even thinking of the big picture.
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    You nailed it. They rent the stadium. The NFL was generous kicking in!

    If you lived in an appartment, and a tornado caused 1.2 million in
    damage....would you kick in 100 000....no...maybe 10 000...no...hmm

    Also, the NFL is not as rich as you think. Why do you think teams relocate? Better view?

    There are a lot of thriving teams out there, but not every team is loaded...and yeah the owner might be worth a lot, but why should they be soley responsible for building a 600mil dollar stadium that others will use to, and becomes a city landmark? That is a big contribution to a city that may turn there backs after a few loosing years, in turn financially ruining you.

    Also, just because a team is worth a billion dollars, that does not meant the owner has that kind of money.
    Show me a single NFL owner who was financially ruined by poor attendance/interest.
    Show me a single city that has suffered ill effects because a team left for greener pastures.
    Face it, these stadiums are nothing more than playgrounds for the rich built with taxpayer money on the myth that Joe Blow will get a job tossing hot dogs, thereby salvaging a city from second-class status and economic ruin.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i don't like the nfl anyways. i never have, just because of the money. i don't watch mlb either. college is more entertaining anyway. so, im with you,...


    if you like college better then nfl (or pros) because of the youthful compeitive spirt so be it, but becuase of the money?? has anyone here ever taken an economics course?
  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    hippiemom wrote:
    Well, as I said, I gave up on them years ago anyway, so it's neither here nor there as far as me buying a ticket or even watching a game. GO BLUE!!!

    I just think that $37 million (and that includes money raised by players and fans) is a pretty measly amount from an enterprise as profitable as the NFL, particularly considering that they stand to make a buck or two from the renovated Superdome. Why the fuck is FEMA paying for this?!!?! "Federal Emergency Management Administration" ... the lack of a football stadium might be a sad thing for fans in New Orleans, but it hardly qualifies as a "federal emergency." There are thousands of people who can't go into their houses, there's rubble all over the city, and FEMA is giving taxpayer dollars to the NFL?! What is wrong with this picture?

    The situation down there is tragic. No doubt about that. But to blame the NFL, when they have contributed 200 million or more in money to Katrina relief, and 10000's of man hours with the players going down there to contribute. It just dosn't make sense to me.

    Why is FEMA helping to rebuild the superdome? Because it is New Orleans Property. It is rented space, which the NFL did contribute to the rebuilding. The revenues, and jobs associated with having professional sports there is a great contribution to rebuliding that area, from the ground up.

    I heard while watching the game last night that there are folks who do not have steady jobs or housing situations who still found a way to purhase tickets to Saints games. The reason? Because it ment something to them that the Saints were comming back home, it is a small step, but an important one.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    The team has no repsonsibility to the stadium other than fulfilling the terms of the lease. And I don't think the lease includes provisions for rebuilding in event of a natural disaster. The Saints probably could have bought their way out of the lease and left town.. would that have solved anything, helped get people working again and back on their feet??? no. The NFL gave money, yeah they probably could have given more but they didn't have to give any in the first place.

    And you site the estimated value of the Redskins at $1 billion... true but that doesn't translate into a resale value of that amount. Plus it takes into account everything that the Redskins control (TV, stadium, parking, concessions and every other avenue of income they have). Not just the value of the team and ownership.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its funny how people, including me, disagree with you 110%. to all his own I guess.

    I suppose. The thing is - I love high school and college football, but I can't stand to watch the pros. The game seems so sterile.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    know1 wrote:
    I suppose. The thing is - I love high school and college football, but I can't stand to watch the pros. The game seems so sterile.


    I see what your saying. but I enjoy the talent level of the pros. it is far superior to that of anything else. obviously. thats why they are pros
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    There are all kinds of things that have been destroyed in this city. Perhaps repairing the Superdome isn't the most important thing on our plate.

    But the whole stadium was a mess after the storm; and having a giganitic crumbling eye-sore in the middle of town would have done nothing to improve the situation down here.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.


    i dont go to the circus and i dont watch tulane games, and i dont think they have a multi-billion $ TV contract either


    off-topic: i dont want to see any south philly red sox fans jumping onto the phillies bandwagon now that the sox stink like ass ;)
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    Why should the NFL pay the entire bill? They are not the only organization that uses the Superdome.

    I guess you should boycott the NCAA as well because as far as I can see they didn't contribute anything and Tulane plays its home games and the NCAA hosts the Sugar Bowl there. And then you have to boycott every company and industry that holds conventions in the Superdome because they didn't contribute sufficiently either.

    As far as I can see the NFL is the only organziation to contribute a sizable sum to help rebuild the Superdome so before you condemn it maybe you should rethink your position ... or just go about boycotting things for no substantial reason.


    why should the federal governemnt (me and you) pay the bill, we dont own the superdome either?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    see ya on sunday buddy

    you dont know me very well do you :D
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