Boycott The Nfl

124

Comments

  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I cant believe how wrong you are. people dont drive in and drive out like you say. maybe you do. there are always people who fly in, maybe to see a friend and catch a game, stay in a hotel, people who eat at places other then at their car. you are claiming EVERYONE comes in and leaves without spending a dime in the surrounding area. that is so damn false is laughable.


    I guess he's claiming no one in Philly ever bought a beer in the stadium. I guess that's why Eagles fans are among the most polite and well behaved in all of football. :rolleyes:
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    Solat13 wrote:
    Actually yes it has. I live in South Philly - right by the Italian Market and Pat's and Geno's and every Phillies Home game and Eagles Home Game there are a ton of people down in South Philly. 3 new restaurants have opened up by me, and a new bar/restaurant across from Pat's and Geno's, a new sports bar a few blocks away, and several other pizza/hoagie places. Plus the stores that were floundering up Passyunk Avenue have seen a resurgence with all the new foot traffic by the added people visiting the area.

    Plus the property value of my house has gone up about 75% in the last 5 years since the Linc and CB Park have opened.

    When the NBA Allstar game was in town a few years ago it was nuts down in South Philly - probably the 2nd busiest I'ever seen it in terms of traffic other than when the RNC was in town.

    So sports does have a huge effect on the local economy.

    I mean Baltimore built it's Inner Harbor after the Orioles moved into Camden Yards.
    The Inner Harbor was improved long before Camden Yards. Harborplace was built in 1980, Camden Yards opened in 1992.
    The fact remains that these facilities should not be built with taxpayer money. There are numerous studies showing that public financed stadiums are not the economic powerhouses people seem to think they are. Here is another study done for NYC regarding the Mets & Yankees: http://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/doubleplay.html

    I am all for building new stadiums, its just that I feel the League and/or Owners should foot the bill as they are the primary benificiary.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    1970RR wrote:
    The Inner Harbor was improved long before Camden Yards. Harborplace was built in 1980, Camden Yards opened in 1992.
    The fact remains that these facilities should not be built with taxpayer money. There are numerous studies showing that public financed stadiums are not the economic powerhouses people seem to think they are. Here is another study done for NYC regarding the Mets & Yankees: http://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/doubleplay.html

    I am all for building new stadiums, its just that I feel the League and/or Owners should foot the bill as they are the primary benificiary.


    thats great, but when a natural disaster takes out a city, I believe its ok for taxpayer money to help rebuild. even a stadium that has many uses other then NFL football
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    1970RR wrote:
    The Inner Harbor was improved long before Camden Yards. Harborplace was built in 1980, Camden Yards opened in 1992.
    The fact remains that these facilities should not be built with taxpayer money. There are numerous studies showing that public financed stadiums are not the economic powerhouses people seem to think they are. Here is another study done for NYC regarding the Mets & Yankees: http://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/doubleplay.html

    I am all for building new stadiums, its just that I feel the League and/or Owners should foot the bill as they are the primary benificiary.
    We are in an apples and oranges situation here, folks. Some of us are referring to primarily one-use stadiums......Yankee Stadium, Heinz Field, Camden Yards etc. The center of the debate is a multi-use facility.......the Superdome. It has a big roof, thus it is enclosed. It hosts basketball games, football games, religious events, car shows, actual conventions and concerts. Once again, it should be mentioned that the dome is not owned by the NFL or the New Orleans Saints. It is a public building that draws people and their wallets into the region.

    I can tell you from direct experience that the Sugar Bowl makes a buttload of money for the region.......most fans are there for at least three days in a hotel.........eating at restaurants besides the Mickey D's.....and spending money on lots and lots of booze.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • hippiemom wrote:
    There's always college and, better yet, high school ball. More fun to watch anyway, who needs the NFL?

    I love college football, maybe even more then the NFL but I could never stop watching the Big Boys.
    There's no I in team, but there's me.

    "0035 EVENFLOW PSYCHOS

    "I'm George Bush and my son's an asshole" 08/03/2000

    Don't stop wen you're tired, stop when you're done
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    my2hands wrote:
    you are saying a hockey team leaving ruined hartford economically? you have to be kidding

    no, i'm not kidding. i'm telling you the truth - that the whalers were one of the only reasons people had to go to downtown hartford and spend money. when they left for the carolinas, that was 40 fewer nights out of the year that the city could attract visitors to the downtown area.

    hartford has always had a lot of problems, and the whalers leaving the city was the nail in the coffin. on the average night, more people head to the downtown area of the suburb of west hartford that downtown hartford. before the whalers left, there was a reason for businesses such as restaurants, etc., to expect a lot of people to be in the area around the civic center. now there is no reason for people to be downtown after 5pm, and therefore the majority of new businesses are opening in the surrounding towns - not downtown.
  • OneLoveOneLove Posts: 563
    my2hands wrote:
    i am not saying you leave it in disrepair, i am saying that the Federal Government should not have to pay for almost the entire reconstruction project when there are more pressing human issues to address


    Seriously Man, what more do you need than someone from new Orleans telling you that there are much bigger problems there.....

    It must be nice to be so grandeous from your tree in... Deleware was it?

    You obviously have a lot of energy, or simply an axe to grind with the NFL for some reason. Why not put your energy where your mouth is, actually do something that will make a difference. If you took 5 minutes of your time to post some links to charities that are supporting the recovery in New Orleans, you would have made a positive change by now. I am sure folks would take the time to donate what they could.

    Instead, you try and promote a boycott of the NFL. Well thats great, but I think there are alot of fans living in or displaced from the New Orleans area who will be tuning in again this year, especially to watch the Saints play back at home, where they should be.
  • my2hands wrote:
    After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

    I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


    The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

    WHO IS WITH ME?

    sorry, not with you. I love football.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    my2hands wrote:
    i call bullshit!

    i live 30 minutes from the Philly sports complex and i have been to a fair share of events... everyone hops off of the I-95 ramp, gets drunk in the parking lot, goes to the game and buys $4 hotdogs...then when the game is over they get back in their cars and hop back on the I-95 ramp and leave the city, without spening a dime in the actual city

    same with the NY/Nj complex... it is an off-ramp, and that is it...when the event is over everyone leaves

    You paid for parking so thanks for the contribution. And I guess the Yankees and Red Sox didn't bring any revenue into Philly this year either. I mean just think, Philly wage tax applied to both of those payrolls for the amount of games they played here this year, plus hotel tax, and whatever was spent on food and beverage.... yeah no revenue for Philly though. Sporting events don't bring any revenue into cities, do they???
    This is your notice that there is a problem with your signature. Please remove it.

    Admin

    Social awareness does not equal political activism!

    5/23/2011- An utter embarrassment... ticketing failures too many to list.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    my2hands wrote:
    After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

    I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


    The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

    WHO IS WITH ME?

    I usually agree with what you have to say. But we all knew that this day was coming before the season started. So I have to ask:

    Will we all be getting a bye when we have to play you in the NFL pool that you started because you are deleting your team? :)

    By the way. How did that week one loss taste? ;)

    Just trying to keep it real.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • my2hands wrote:
    After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

    I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


    The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

    WHO IS WITH ME?

    LMAO!! Why should anyone other then themselves be responsible for standing on their own two feet...I've spent much time watching Spike Lee's take on the Levee's, have been reading much information on what went on, helped Katrina Evacuee's here in Denver, and all's I can think "the government should have been there to help these people get temporary shelter, food, emergency funds, but beyond that, thats as far as it should go." Sure people have lived there all their lives, and know nothign else, but as far as I'm concerned, these people all knew the danger of their location, it was their choice to live in an area where flooding, hurricanes, etc are a mojaor concern! The government is not responsible for building these peoples houses, I can't beleive people think this is the governments responsibility.
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    denverfan wrote:
    LMAO!! Why should anyone other then themselves be responsible for standing on their own two feet...I've spent much time watching Spike Lee's take on the Levee's, have been reading much information on what went on, helped Katrina Evacuee's here in Denver, and all's I can think "the government should have been there to help these people get temporary shelter, food, emergency funds, but beyond that, thats as far as it should go." Sure people have lived there all their lives, and know nothign else, but as far as I'm concerned, these people all knew the danger of their location, it was their choice to live in an area where flooding, hurricanes, etc are a mojaor concern! The government is not responsible for building these peoples houses, I can't beleive people think this is the governments responsibility.


    I agree that people knew they were living below sea level in a hurricane zone. no one forced them to live there. but the government does have a responsiblity to help its citizens in time of disaster. to what extreme is debatable, but something has to be done from them
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    denverfan wrote:
    LMAO!! Why should anyone other then themselves be responsible for standing on their own two feet...I've spent much time watching Spike Lee's take on the Levee's, have been reading much information on what went on, helped Katrina Evacuee's here in Denver, and all's I can think "the government should have been there to help these people get temporary shelter, food, emergency funds, but beyond that, thats as far as it should go." Sure people have lived there all their lives, and know nothign else, but as far as I'm concerned, these people all knew the danger of their location, it was their choice to live in an area where flooding, hurricanes, etc are a mojaor concern! The government is not responsible for building these peoples houses, I can't beleive people think this is the governments responsibility.
    The levees were designed by the government - and then improperly built. If a contractor built your house, and it collapsed because the foundation was shit, shouldn't the contractor be held responsible?
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    simple..take it from the players salaries

    the money they make is absolutely ridiculous
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    lol theres no chance in hell of me not watching football....
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    even flow? wrote:
    I usually agree with what you have to say. But we all knew that this day was coming before the season started. So I have to ask:

    Will we all be getting a bye when we have to play you in the NFL pool that you started because you are deleting your team? :)

    By the way. How did that week one loss taste? ;)

    Just trying to keep it real.


    1: i will see you on the rebound in the league

    2: elway is a fucking bum :)

    3:i will be finishing what i started, it doesnt contribute financialy to the NFl so i fel no remorse kicking your ass in fantasy football :)
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    my2hands wrote:
    1: i will see you on the rebound in the league

    2: elway is a fucking bum :)

    3:i will be finishing what i started, it doesnt contribute financialy to the NFl so i fel no remorse kicking your ass in fantasy football :)


    Glad I got that cleared up with you. :D

    Everybody loves Elway.

    2-1 with the worst amount of points in the league. :eek:
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • RainDog wrote:
    The levees were designed by the government - and then improperly built. If a contractor built your house, and it collapsed because the foundation was shit, shouldn't the contractor be held responsible?
    For the amount of up to but not exceeding 10 years here in the state of CO (concerning the foundation/contractor point which is ludacris); hey, these people "KNEW THE LEVEES WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"

    What the fuck? it only takes a few people to say hey, fix this fucking thing (levee's) to start a movement...It's laziness on the account of all...Move the FUCK OUT OF NO!!!! ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!! And this next time I wont volunteer weeks and weeks of help and employment to these people...YOUR ASKING FOR IT!!!!!!!!

    This was one of the biggest storms ever...do you really think any levee system would have stood up to this storm?
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • my2hands wrote:
    After learning that the Superdome repairs cost approx. $175 million, and that FEMA (aka me and your tax $) paid $160 million towards that, and the NFL contributed ONLY $15 million, i have decided to never watch another NFL event. I think it is flat out fucking disgusting that the NFL only kicked in less that 10% of the $ needed, and FEMA gave $160 million when houses are still not being built? I persoanlly think they should have paid the entire bill, because they are such a succesful business. I mean $175 million is chump change for that league and its EXTREMELY wealthy owners. Not to mention all the tax $ they have used to build their state of the art stadiums. Not to mention the extreme salaries these guys are making ($10 million a year for throwing a football when teachers in this country can barely make it day to day)

    I know it is tough for some to do, i have grown up watching and playing football all of my life. Sunday's in my home were reserved for football, I watch monday night footabll like most everyone else, and I of course party it up for the super bowl like the rest of the country. But, i can only take so much greed, and i have had enough, no more of my money for these greedy fucks. I am through.


    The Washington Redskins franchise is currently valued at OVER $1 BILLION DOLLARS? you cant tell me that federal tax $ had to go to the stadium when houses are still not being built?

    WHO IS WITH ME?
    and another thing, FEMA should have rebuilt this fucker, cause' when it happens again, everyone will run their assess off to the superdome!!!! Think about it! If you owned the saints and the superdome and FEMA took over occupency to shelter those who could not get out, dont you think FEMA would be responsible for the building during the time of it's tenancy??? I know every lease I ever sign to my rentors states this very thing about 100 times
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    denverfan wrote:
    and another thing, FEMA should have rebuilt this fucker, cause' when it happens again, everyone will run their assess off to the superdome!!!! Think about it! If you owned the saints and the superdome and FEMA took over occupency to shelter those who could not get out, dont you think FEMA would be responsible for the building during the time of it's tenancy??? I know every lease I ever sign to my rentors states this very thing about 100 times


    But what did you think about that big win the other night against NE?
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even flow? wrote:
    But what did you think about that big win the other night against NE?


    you mean ATL? great game, great night for the city. partly thanks to FEMA
  • even flow? wrote:
    But what did you think about that big win the other night against NE?

    FUCKING RAD!
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you mean ATL? great game, great night for the city. partly thanks to FEMA


    No. I was asking denver man what he thought of the orange and blues massive win the other night. See that is what I like about the NFL. A week three game can mean a whole lot to the grand scheme of things. :) Since this is a NFL thread. I thought I would inject some pigskin talk.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    denverfan wrote:
    For the amount of up to but not exceeding 10 years here in the state of CO (concerning the foundation/contractor point which is ludacris); hey, these people "KNEW THE LEVEES WERE NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"

    What the fuck? it only takes a few people to say hey, fix this fucking thing (levee's) to start a movement...It's laziness on the account of all...Move the FUCK OUT OF NO!!!! ITS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!! And this next time I wont volunteer weeks and weeks of help and employment to these people...YOUR ASKING FOR IT!!!!!!!!

    This was one of the biggest storms ever...do you really think any levee system would have stood up to this storm?
    People have been saying it. Unfortunately they fall under the jurisdiction of the Army Corps of Engineers, who didn't really do anything about it.

    And yes, I think the levee system would have performed better if built correctly.

    But it's good to hear that you care. Bye-bye now.
  • im gonna stick with what has worked for me for 40 years.....

    im boycotting new orleans...........
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • RainDog wrote:
    People have been saying it. Unfortunately they fall under the jurisdiction of the Army Corps of Engineers, who didn't really do anything about it.

    And yes, I think the levee system would have performed better if built correctly.

    But it's good to hear that you care. Bye-bye now.

    Yeah right, it would have been far too much to ask to the citizens of NO to ban together and start a movement to get the levee's rebuilt...alls it would have taken was these people saying, we're not giving you our tax dollars until this thing is taken care of! You dont think the GUVMENT would have moved their asses! Their all lazy!
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    denverfan wrote:
    Yeah right, it would have been far too much to ask to the citizens of NO to ban together and start a movement to get the levee's rebuilt...alls it would have taken was these people saying, we're not giving you our tax dollars until this thing is taken care of! You dont think the GUVMENT would have moved their asses! Their all lazy!
    Whatever. You know, Colorado floods quite a bit I hear. And that GUVMENT you speak of even broke down and used OUR tax dollars to build you guys a damn. Perhaps you shouldn't be living in such a fucked up place yourself.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    even flow? wrote:
    But what did you think about that big win the other night against NE?

    That was a beautiful.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    Whatever. You know, Colorado floods quite a bit I hear. And that GUVMENT you speak of even broke down and used OUR tax dollars to build you guys a damn. Perhaps you shouldn't be living in such a fucked up place yourself.

    The biggest difference is that they spent their money on the dam instead of spending it on...I can't really figure that part out.

    This is not the fault of the average New Orleans resident. It's more just what has become normal in Louisiana government.
  • RainDog wrote:
    Whatever. You know, Colorado floods quite a bit I hear. And that GUVMENT you speak of even broke down and used OUR tax dollars to build you guys a damn. Perhaps you shouldn't be living in such a fucked up place yourself.
    I live in CO for many reasons, and yes one of them is fact that I sit atop the US! No Floods here!
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
Sign In or Register to comment.