To the people who believe 911 was an inside job...

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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    Its not personal to every other American? Of course Georgie didnt plant them on the planes. He's just a puppet.

    this is silly, but...who flew the planes?
    or is there someone controlling both the us and al quaida, and they both don't know about it?
    I really need a serious answer to this?
    not some dodgy stuff...

    m.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    BamaPJFan wrote:
    I'm a patriot
    congratulations
  • BamaPJFan
    BamaPJFan Posts: 410
    _outlaw wrote:
    congratulations

    Too bad many Americans aren't.
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    Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09


  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    more than 20 posts and not one has answered my question...
    really I couldn't wait to get home and get this thread started, that's how curious I was about an answer...

    you don't have to pick any of the answers I gave above...you can come up with something else...would be even nicer:)

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    more than 20 posts and not one has answered my question...
    really I couldn't wait to get home and get this thread started, that's how curious I was about an answer...

    you don't have to pick any of the answers I gave above...you can come up with something else...would be even nicer:)

    m.
    Pilots flew the planes. The "terrorists" took it over. Their CIA training did them a lot of good.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    nobody wrote:
    ...and this is not a trick question!!!

    Who do you believe flew those planes crashing into the WTC?

    ...the actual pilots? (what was their reward?)
    ...CIA agents? (reward?)
    ...Auto-Pilot? (where did the pilots go?)
    ...empty plaines? (dead passengers?)
    ...steered by radiowave-transmission (from the ground on? pilots again?)
    ...Al-Quaida supporters who were tricked into believing it was A-Q behind it?
    ...A-Q supporters with A-Q instructing them, but A-Q working with the admin?
    ........???

    please enlighten me on the current/most popular conspiracy oppinion on that?
    cause even if I'm told a hundred times that the buildings were blown up after the attack, there were still those planes, no?

    m.
    I believe very strongly that 9/11 was an inside job, at least to the point where the U.S. was complacent. With that in mind, I'd say your last option is the easiest to believe. But I think it's very possible that it's much deeper and much more corrupt.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    Pilots flew the planes. The "terrorists" took it over. Their CIA training did them a lot of good.

    so you believe that the CIA agents commited a suicide attack?
    believe me or not, this is not mocking...I just want to get things straight!

    m.
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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    I believe very strongly that 9/11 was an inside job, at least to the point where the U.S. was complacent. With that in mind, I'd say your last option is the easiest to believe. But I think it's very possible that it's much deeper and much more corrupt.

    again: just making clear...you believe that the US and Al-Quida could possibly have been on it together?
    and the people who flew the planes only knew the A-Q story behind it, and thus were led to believe that they actually attacked the US Admin?
    is there anything you would like to add?

    m.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    BamaPJFan wrote:
    I have every right to post what I did above. 911 is very personal to me and I'm a patriot who just got back from visiting the Flight 93 Memorial. I'm sick of people trying to blame 911 on this current administration. I didn't vote for George Bush either time, but I certainly don't think that he planted terrorists on those jets back in 2001.
    you broke the forum rules by calling anyone that believes in 9/11 conspiracy complete fools. That was the point.
    911 is personal to me too, and I'm not even American....it changed the WORLD, yes? I'm sure it's personal to those in Afghanistan and Iraq who have had their lives changed (read: ended or ruined) by the things the Bush admin has done with the emotional momentum from that day. Being a 'patriot', or the fact that you looked at some plaque in a field gives your opinion no more validity that anyone elses'.

    btw - patriots question and criticize their government....sounds like you are ignoring a lot of questions/criticism that remain unanswered/unadressed...
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Drowned Out wrote:
    you broke the forum rules by calling anyone that believes in 9/11 conspiracy complete fools.

    Sometimes, just sometimes, Captain Obvious has to put on his tights and make an appearance. It's just like Fox News. If we allow stupidity to go unchallenged, it will spread, like a cancer, and consume what's left of our society.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • BamaPJFan
    BamaPJFan Posts: 410
    Drowned Out wrote:
    you broke the forum rules by calling anyone that believes in 9/11 conspiracy complete fools. That was the point.
    911 is personal to me too, and I'm not even American....it changed the WORLD, yes? I'm sure it's personal to those in Afghanistan and Iraq who have had their lives changed (read: ended or ruined) by the things the Bush admin has done with the emotional momentum from that day. Being a 'patriot', or the fact that you looked at some plaque in a field gives your opinion no more validity that anyone elses'.

    btw - patriots question and criticize their government....sounds like you are ignoring a lot of questions/criticism that remain unanswered/unadressed...

    The sacred field in Shanksville is certainly much more than a "plaque in a field". It pays respects to some awesome heroes... one who happened to be a German citizen and one who was a Japanese citizen. The fact that you're not an American apparently doesn't give you the same perspective that it gives someone who is an American.

    I criticize my government all of the time. Especially over pocket book issues. I don't ignore anything associated with 911. I fully believe that it wasn't a conspiracy.... bottomline. If other folks want to waste their time trying to find a conspiracy out of 911, then knock yourself out.
    United Center (Chicago): 8/24/09
    Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09


  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    nobody wrote:
    so you believe that the CIA agents commited a suicide attack?
    believe me or not, this is not mocking...I just want to get things straight!

    m.
    Whether they were agents or not is up for discussion. But I believe the CIA was involved in training them. Bin Laden was an agent though. His code name is/was Tim Osman. Google it.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Yipes.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Nevermind wrote:
    Bin Laden was an agent though. His code name is/was Tim Osman.

    Do you have ANY non-tinfoil hat evidence to back this up? Was this before, during or after the mujahadien?

    Now, if you'd said his code name was Tim Bierman, I might've believed you :)
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    Whether they were agents or not is up for discussion. But I believe the CIA was involved in training them. Bin Laden was an agent though. His code name is/was Tim Osman. Google it.

    this question is central to anyone who believes that the US was actively involved in the attack (not the ones who believe the US just let it happen!!!)

    Because...how would the US coerce/reward anyone who would fly the planes into the buildings FOR THEM. money? promise of heaven? threat of death to their families?
    cause obviously the motive couldn't have been sheer hate of the us, right??

    m.
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  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    godpt3 wrote:
    Do you have ANY non-tinfoil hat evidence to back this up? Was this before, during or after the mujahadien?

    Now, if you'd said his code name was Tim Bierman, I might've believed you :)
    Was in 1986. From what Ive seen.
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    Whether they were agents or not is up for discussion. But I believe the CIA was involved in training them. Bin Laden was an agent though. His code name is/was Tim Osman. Google it.

    whether or not bin laden was an cia agent is not up for question here (in a direct sense)...
    he could well have been an agent, for example when the us was active in Afghanistan against the soviets...or do you have actually seen his membership status and it said 2001?
    as I said...let's not digress...I've posed a simple question...and so far only you have voiced an opinion...although only yesterday there have been many more people who said the US blew those buildings up...

    m.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Nevermind wrote:
    Was in 1986. From what Ive seen.

    So there's no chance this has changed in 20 years, eh?
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • nobody
    nobody Posts: 353
    Nevermind wrote:
    Was in 1986. From what Ive seen.

    see my above post...
    it's not a secret he was working with the US at the time of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan...

    Donald Rumsfeld shook Sadam's hand...yet he was hanged a couple of years later...
    Don't want to live up to Godwin's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law
    but Hitler had a contract with Stalin that regulated the partition of Poland between the SU and Germany...yet only a couple of years later Hitler waged war against the SU and 16 million soviet people died in it...(I think here the analogy is valid...so don't shun me because I mentioned Hitler;))
    does that mean Stalin was "in" on it???


    m.
    Godwin's Law:
    "As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
  • Nevermind
    Nevermind Posts: 1,006
    slightofjeff wrote:
    So there's no chance this has changed in 20 years, eh?
    No.....

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