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  • Posts: 7,117
    jsand wrote:
    What "truth" have I ignored?
    The fact that Iraq had NOTHING to do with terrorism before we invaded their country.

    That attacking Iraq has made this world a less safe place to be.

    That those mistakes were all Bush's fault.

    Don't mistake the war on terror with the war on Iraq.

    That appointing Michael Brown as the FEMA director costs people lives in New Orleans.

    That they lied when they said nobody ever had any idea that the levees in New Orleans were in danger (or something like that).

    When they lied after 9/11 in saying that they never had any idea that this could happen.

    Shall I go on?
  • Posts: 7,117
    jsand wrote:
    I guess that makes me a dissenter which, according to people like you, means I'm a true patriot. Yay for me.
    I have never claimed that you weren't a patriot. I have never once accused anyone of that from this country. That is the GOP throwing that one around haphazardly.

    I can tell by your (IMO, misguided) passion for this subject, that you are a patriot.
  • Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    Bashing him for legitmate reasons is more than fine by me. I have issues with many things that he has done. That being said, calling him the little devil and equating him with Hitler is pathetic and ignores the truth.

    Here is a classic example your words from the Iraqi civilians thread....that fact that you dont blame America for turning Iraq into the gruesome place it is now is ignoring the truth.

    "I disagree with the premise of your question. It's not an occupying army that's doing the killing. Again, its Iraqi versus Iraqi sectarian violence.

    And to answer inmytree's question whether 43,000 Iraqis would be dead without the US there - maybe, maybe not. That doesn't answer whether America is RESPONSIBLE for it. I tend to place blame on the ones doing the bombing."
  • Posts: 646
    Open wrote:
    Here is a classic example your words from the Iraqi civilians thread....that fact that you dont blame America for turning Iraq into the gruesome place it is now is ignoring the truth.

    "I disagree with the premise of your question. It's not an occupying army that's doing the killing. Again, its Iraqi versus Iraqi sectarian violence.

    And to answer inmytree's question whether 43,000 Iraqis would be dead without the US there - maybe, maybe not. That doesn't answer whether America is RESPONSIBLE for it. I tend to place blame on the ones doing the bombing."

    Truer words hath never been spoken. I don't understand why you posted those entries. I stand by what I said.
  • Posts: 3,326
    jsand wrote:
    Bashing him for legitmate reasons is more than fine by me. I have issues with many things that he has done. That being said, calling him the little devil and equating him with Hitler is pathetic and ignores the truth.
    Equating him with Hitler is preposterous, but calling him a little devil is funny :D
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    Truer words hath never been spoken. I don't understand why you posted those entries. I stand by what I said.

    You asked how u ignore the truth and by above comment you're demonstrating how you are.

    Your pathetic excuse for a pres himself; says we're fighting them there so we dont fight them here. How much more clear can it be that we're resposible for the deaths in Iraq. You can set fire to someone's house claiming that the fire killed the people inside, but you're not blaming the person who started the fire.
  • Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    hippiemom wrote:
    Equating him with Hitler is preposterous, but calling him a little devil is funny :D

    who said anything about hitler?? i wouldn't compare bush to hitler. hitler was a genius(an evil one). bush is a cartoon character(a dumb one).
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • Posts: 646
    Open wrote:
    You asked how u ignore the truth and by above comment you're demonstrating how you are.

    Your pathetic excuse for a pres himself; says we're fighting them there so we dont fight them here. How much more clear can it be that we're resposible for the deaths in Iraq. You can set fire to someone's house claiming that the fire killed the people inside, but you're not blaming the person who started the fire.

    So you think that the people committing these atrocities don't have minds? They cannot be equated with fire - they are people, just like you and me. Everyone has free will. They, alone, choose to do what they do. How about placing blame where it belongs?
  • Posts: 12,225
    jsand wrote:
    Tired of the hate-Bush-and-bash-every-single-fucking-thing-he-does leftwingers? Yup. Pretty damn tired of it.
    ...
    Let's go to the video tape...
    Sat there in a daze when he learned we were under attack... not so good.
    Put up a strong front a couple of days afterwards... good.
    Went after Al Qaeda, Usama Bin Laden and his Taliban hosts in Afghanistan... good.
    Shifted focus from the task in Afghanistan towards Iraq... not so good.
    Used fear of 'mushroom clouds' over America to scare us... not so good.
    Thinking that we are stupid enough to think that an Arab is an Arab and a Terrorist is a Terrorist, so Usama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussien are the same person... not so good (except for the dumb people in America who chose to eat that shit).
    Create a rift with our NATO Allies... not so good.
    Divide our nation at a time when we need to be united... not so good.
    Sought Military advice from Jesus... instead of his Dad... not so good.
    Put together a Coalition of the Bribed and Coerced... not so good.
    Invaded Iraq... not so good.
    Ended 'Combat Operations', therefore, changing te rules of engagement when there was still a fucking war going on... not so good.
    Tries to divert our attention away from Iraq with nonsense such as Gay Marriage... not so good (unless you are a numb nut that thinks two dudes getting married is worse than young Marines getting their legs blown off).
    Had no clue that Katrina was a disaster (needs to watch the news or pick up a fuckng newspaper once in a while)... not so good.
    Mike Brown and Harriet Meirs. Don't give your drinking buddies and former pieces of ass high ranking positions in our government... not so good.
    Failure to admit mistakes... not so good (to Bush supporters... he is not Jesus).
    Sets aside thousands of acres in the Pacific as a wildlife preserve... good.
    500 Billion tax dollars in Iraq... not so good.
    ...
    Feel free to add your points... good or not so good. The above are mine.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 646
    aBoxOfFear wrote:
    who said anything about hitler?? i wouldn't compare bush to hitler. hitler was a genius(an evil one). bush is a cartoon character(a dumb one).

    Did I say that you personally did that? No. I am speaking in general terms. Many do compare Bush with Hitler.
  • Posts: 12,225
    hippiemom wrote:
    Equating him with Hitler is preposterous, but calling him a little devil is funny :D
    ...
    Comparing Bush to Hitler is an insult to Hitler.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 792
    jsand wrote:
    So you think that the people committing these atrocities don't have minds? They cannot be equated with fire - they are people, just like you and me. Everyone has free will. They, alone, choose to do what they do. How about placing blame where it belongs?

    Those people werent there till we went there. How hard is that to comprehend? Again a great demonstration of how truth is ignored.
  • Posts: 646
    Open wrote:
    Those people werent there till we went there. How hard is that to comprehend? Again a great demonstration of how truth is ignored.

    What you just said completely ignores the truth. How were those people not there? Did the US ship them in? Stop trying to insult me and start stating specific facts that demonstrate your point.
  • Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Comparing Bush to Hitler is an insult to Hitler.

    before you make such an ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment you should remember that hitler purposely killed 6 million innocent jewish people and would have killed many given the chance. dont reply telling me bush would do the same.
  • Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    jsand wrote:
    What you just said completely ignores the truth. How were those people not there? Did the US ship them in? Stop trying to insult me and start stating specific facts that demonstrate your point.

    those people went there AFTER the american military invaded the country and started dropping bombs everywhere. ok?? *patting you on the head* :)
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • Posts: 646
    aBoxOfFear wrote:
    those people went there AFTER the american military invaded the country and started dropping bombs everywhere. ok?? *patting you on the head* :)

    Where did they come from? *punching you in the stomach*
  • Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    before you make such an ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment you should remember that hitler purposely killed 6 million innocent jewish people and would have killed many given the chance. dont reply telling me bush would do the same.
    It all depends on what criteria we're using for our comparison. Bush is clearly the nicer guy of the two, no question about that, but if we were talking about, say, brain power, I'd have to put my money on Hitler.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    jlew24asu wrote:
    before you make such an ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment you should remember that hitler purposely killed 6 million innocent jewish people and would have killed many given the chance. dont reply telling me bush would do the same.

    actually, i wouldn't doubt it if bush, at one time or another, said the classic "we should just nuke the entire middle east and turn it into a parking lot". i can see him or his drinking buddies saying that.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self
  • Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    before you make such an ignorant, insulting, idiotic comment you should remember that hitler purposely killed 6 million innocent jewish people and would have killed many given the chance. dont reply telling me bush would do the same.
    ...
    I'm supposed to think about your sorry ass 'feeling' before saying something... who the fuck put you in charge of the censor button?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
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    I'm supposed to think about your sorry ass 'feeling' before saying something... who the fuck put you in charge of the censor button?


    talk like that will get u banned

    God put me in charge. sorry you disapprove

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