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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and what about what they did? and continue to do? no comment on that?
    ...
    I have another question for you...
    Was/Is the Pentagon a viable Military Target for Al Qaeda? Meaning, was/is it okay for them to target that building?
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    According to Bush, there were WMDs and looming mushroom clouds too, and we were going to get Osama dead or alive, and blah blah blah. You don't honestly believe a word he says anymore, do you?


    I wanted to believe him with all the WMD stuff. why would I not? they know more then I do. looking back he was getting that info from others who turned out wrong. do I blame bush for that? not entirely, but the buck stops at him, so yes I blame bush for the mess in iraq.

    I do believe bush is looking out for americans and does not want to see another attack on our country. has he made some bad mistakes? absoulutely.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I have another question for you...
    Was/Is the Pentagon a viable Military Target for Al Qaeda? Meaning, was/is it okay for them to target that building?


    not ok for them to target any building/troops/people whatever. what did you expect me to say?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I wanted to believe him with all the WMD stuff. why would I not? they know more then I do. looking back he was getting that info from others who turned out wrong. do I blame bush for that? not entirely, but the buck stops at him, so yes I blame bush for the mess in iraq.

    I do believe bush is looking out for americans and does not want to see another attack on our country. has he made some bad mistakes? absoulutely.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and what about what they did? and continue to do? no comment on that?
    I bet I've said this a dozen times at least on this board, but I will say it again, just for you.

    No, I do not approve of terrorists blowing people to bits ... but come on, you knew that already, didn't you? I don't approve of radical Islam. Hell, I don't approve of religion in general. I don't approve of bombing in general. Does that just about cover it?

    I expect terrorists to behave like terrorists. It doesn't surprise me when they do, so I rarely comment on it. I do NOT expect the United States to behave like terrorists, and it surprised me at the beginning (although sadly, it surprises me almost not at all anymore). What is being done by the U.S. is being done in MY name and with MY money, so you're damn right I'm going to comment.

    Yes, Al Qaeda is bad, I think we can all agree on that, but didn't your mother teach you that two wrongs don't make a right?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    not ok for them to target any building/troops/people whatever. what did you expect me to say?
    ...
    Then... what about the military/industrial buildings in Iraq that we bombed?
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    and what about what they did? and continue to do? no comment on that?
    I'll comment. We're fighting a war. I know we toss that word around like it's no big deal - war on drugs, war on terror, war on high prices - but the truth is, in Iraq right now, we're fighting a real war. Like, the real war type war. The kind where people die every day all day. If you don't like that, perhaps you shouldn't support them.

    I'll choose sides; I'll openly admit that I prefer the U.S. to Iraq. But these surgical strikes and these nancy boy tactics we use are simply not going to cut it. When you fight a real war type war, you have to let your enemy know that you are the last word on aggression. To think that we could just move in with a small force and oust a government - and everyone would be happy and grateful - is beyond naive. If you are not ready to flatten a country, and I mean flatten a country - civilians included - you are not ready to engage in war.
  • RainDog wrote:
    To think that we could just move in with a small force and oust a government - and everyone would be happy and grateful - is beyond naive. If you are not ready to flatten a country, and I mean flatten a country - civilians included - you are not ready to engage in war.


    Umm... who is "Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld"??

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