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Open wrote:Actually, he doesnt look dumb, just speaking the truth. Someone who's responsible for all these deaths deserves a big FU. I dont care if that person is dem or rep.
Thank you. I dont care if it was a dem or rep. they would still get the same FU! Killing is not the answer. Its the easiest but not the right choice. It will take a bigger man to put the guns down. and also what ever happen to that guy.........waht was his name???????? Oh Bin thats his name...... wasnt he the one that order the attacks on 911??????? I guess he is bunking up with Bush at the white house.I'll be back0 -
jlew24asu wrote:again, did american military intentionally attack civillians? the answer is no.
does el queda intentionally attack civillians? yes
I have a question for you...
I works at a major corporation that builds defense and weapons systems... I am not in the military... I am a civilian.
If Al Qaeda attacks my company and I die... am I an innocent civilian or enemy combatant?
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Follow-on... when the U.S. military targeted Hussein's industrial complexes... the ones suspected of weapons research, development and manufacturing... were those workers innocent civilians or enemy combatants?
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What is the difference between me, working here... and the computer geek who was working in Baghdad?Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!0 -
Nothingman54 wrote:Thank you. I dont care if it was a dem or rep. they would still get the same FU! Killing is not the answer. Its the easiest but not the right choice. It will take a bigger man to put the guns down. and also what ever happen to that guy.........waht was his name???????? Oh Bin thats his name...... wasnt he the one that order the attacks on 911??????? I guess he is bunking up with Bush at the white house.
your getting close. calm the fuck down and speak like a human being and maybe people will listen to what you have to say0 -
jlew24asu wrote:again, did american military intentionally attack civillians? the answer is no.
does el queda intentionally attack civillians? yes0 -
jlew24asu wrote:you are contradicting yourself. you dont want to stay the course but you want to stay and get iraq on their feet.
I believe "staying the course" and getting Iraq back on their feet is one in the same.
Keep in mind, i'm not here to cheerlead bush, I want some honest opinions on what to do NOW. we cant go back and change what happen. bashing bush doesnt solve the problem.0 -
jlew24asu wrote:your getting close. calm the fuck down and speak like a human being and maybe people will listen to what you have to say
You really think highly of yourself????? I dont beat around the bush I will tell it like it is and you will never win this argument with me.I'll be back0 -
RainDog wrote:If you intentionally start a war where, no matter how hard you try, you know civillians will be killed then, yeah, you kind of intentionally attack civillians. It's called war - and long gone are the days when wars are fought by opposing lines on an open field.
kind of huh? so who is worse Americans for starting the war or el queda filling a car with bombs and setting it off in a public market?
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jlew24asu wrote:again, did american military intentionally attack civillians? the answer is no.
does el queda intentionally attack civillians? yes"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 19630 -
jlew24asu wrote:kind of huh? so who is worse Americans for starting the war or el queda filling a car with bombs and setting it off in a public market?
this conversation is going no where
Americans are worse for starting the war. Cause and effect. We invaded their country and now all hell has broken loose.I'll be back0 -
Nothingman54 wrote:Americans are worse for starting the war. Cause and effect. We invaded their country and now all hell has broken loose.
so since america started the war, filling a car with bombs and setting it off in a public market is justified?0 -
jsand wrote:Whether they would have been bombing and killing if we hadn't gone into Iraq is irrelevant, in my opinion. I still place the blame squarely on those engaged in the bombing and killing. That's the difference (one of many) between you and I.0
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hippiemom wrote:You saw what we did to Baghdad. Either the administration was unaware that millions of civilians live in Baghdad (which, now that I think of it, wouldn't be all that surprising in light of the many other things this administration apparently does not know), or we targeted civilians. Perhaps we didn't go in with the thought of "Hey, lets go kill us some innocent bystanders!" but with the weapons that were used there was no doubt that many civilians would be injured or killed. And we did it anyway ... deliberately, even though no one in Iraq had attacked us or threatened to.
well according to bush, not me, there was a significant threat.0 -
jlew24asu wrote:kind of huh? so who is worse Americans for starting the war or el queda filling a car with bombs and setting it off in a public market?
this conversation is going no where"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 19630 -
Nothingman54 wrote:Americans are worse for starting the war. Cause and effect. We invaded their country and now all hell has broken loose.0
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hippiemom wrote:We started the war, thereby creating the conditions that have enabled Al Qaeda and the like to terrorize the civilian population. Comparing a world superpower to a band of fanatic thugs is sort of silly, so I'm not going to say which is "better" or "worse," but I will say that what we did was pretty damn bad.
and what about what they did? and continue to do? no comment on that?0 -
jlew24asu wrote:well according to bush, not me, there was a significant threat."Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 19630
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jsand wrote:Couldn't agree with you more. Now that that's established, who is to blame for that shift? Who hides behind civilians in this new warfare? Clue: it's not the US.0
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Bush created this mess when he invaded Iraq. He created the breeding ground. Its his fault for all the deaths! Deaths of soliders and inocent people. He is the reason! CAUSE AND EFFECT!I'll be back0
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