If the 9/11 Conspiracy theories are ever proven?

onelongsong · August 2007

mookie9999 wrote:

Not true. As much as I may disagree with the conspiracy theorists, even if they bought any explanation of the events of 9/11 and were nowhere to be found, every media outlet and most politicians would continue to bring up the events which in turn would make the people relive the experience over and over, if they so choose to be effected by it. I don't fault the CT's for wanting answers as well as for having a VERY active imaginatio. I also will not, nor cannot blame them for anyone reliving the events again and again.

i was referring to what happened to the victims that came to mourn their dead on the 5th anniversary; and those witnesses that are continually harassed by being told they are liars. the CTs that appeared on camera were young kids with no experience. the makers of loose change admit they altered video. they made a fortune on their film and are in the process of releasing a third version which presents different "facts". it's a new spin on an old story to make another few million dollars.
i'm all for making a profit but not at the expense of injured people. i include the CTs that fall into all this because they are injured with mental illness. (ptsd).

JamMastaE · August 2007

onelongsong wrote:

conspiracy theorists suffer from a form of PTSD. they can't believe what they saw; so their mind spins explainations of what they saw. until they get some psycological help they'll never accept any answer. but; sometimes things happen just as you see them.
when i was 18 i was buying a handgun and the bloke and a couple friends drove out to my farm. i loaded the gun and looked for something to shoot at. a piece of wood or anything. i saw a small bird about the size of a dove just over 1/4 mile away. i pointed out the bird; and fired. i can make that shot with a rifle but nobody can make that shot with a handgun. after squeezing the trigger there was a poof of feathers and the bird lay dead. the shot itself is impossible. but i did hit the bird. a 40 acre block is 1/4 mile by 1/4 mile so the distance is known and not estimated.
the point here is: something that couldn't happen, did. i never thought i'd hit that bird.
people say oswald couldn't have shot jfk but modern forensics has proven that it couldn't have happened any other way. yet a nation in shock couldn't believe what happened right before their eyes and spent almost 40 years searching for the truth. in the end; it happened exactly as they saw it happen.
9/11 put a lot of people in shock which effected them mentally. it's a shame those people have to hurt those who lost loved ones and make them relive that experience over and over.

conspiracy theorists suffer from a form of PTSD? you get that from the history channel? the only thing conspiracy theorists suffer from is frustration. the frustration of trying to warn the sheeple of impending doom.

the people that suffer the most are the ordinary citizens who are controlled by fear and lies. the people who are responsible for the wickedness have their "experts" tell you that conspiracy theorists are nut jobs,which is only an attempt to distance you further from the truth and in many cases it works.and then there are those who are blessed to be able to see through the dis-information and no amount of lies will ever change that.

and where the fuck did you hear that "modern forensics has proven that it couldn't have happened any other way"?
that is a total lie.if you look at the "magic bullet theory" and think that those cartoon forensics are what happened it's no wonder you don't think 9-11 was an inside job.because you will swallow an bullshit they tell you as long as it's an "expert" that's lying to you.

onelongsong · August 2007

JamMastaE wrote:

conspiracy theorists suffer from a form of PTSD? you get that from the history channel? the only thing conspiracy theorists suffer from is frustration. the frustration of trying to warn the sheeple of impending doom.

the people that suffer the most are the ordinary citizens who are controlled by fear and lies. the people who are responsible for the wickedness have their "experts" tell you that conspiracy theorists are nut jobs,which is only an attempt to distance you further from the truth and in many cases it works.and then there are those who are blessed to be able to see through the dis-information and no amount of lies will ever change that.

and where the fuck did you hear that "modern forensics has proven that it couldn't have happened any other way"?
that is a total lie.if you look at the "magic bullet theory" and think that those cartoon forensics are what happened it's no wonder you don't think 9-11 was an inside job.because you will swallow an bullshit they tell you as long as it's an "expert" that's lying to you.

with you being so qualified and an expert in so many fields; i don't know how i could've doubted you. of course you're absolutely right.
scientists don't know shit compared to you.

mookie9999 · August 2007

JamMastaE wrote:

...because you will swallow an bullshit they tell you as long as it's an "expert" that's lying to you.

That's right. None of your "experts" have been lying or proven wrong yet. Oh wait, they have. Just because it comes off of the lips of someone who disagrees with your intent does not equate to being a lie. Although I might just be loopy as I think I might have inhaled some chemtrails today.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

pronunciation and dialect is mundane, i agree... the actual name of the fucking body of water isnt.... it'd be like calling El Paso.. 'The Paso'... thats what it means but its name is El Paso.. likewise for Loch Ness, its the proper scottish name for a lake... and since this lake is in scotland it is a Loch... no potato potaato for this one...

if its so mundane then stop commenting on it... or, like the class buffoon at school, do you have that dying need to be heard? :rolleyes:

dude ...lighten up ...it's a body of water...your'e going to bust a fucking vein in your forehead...

Ahnimus · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

its not mundane.. its our language, our heritage.. hardly fucking mundane

If it's not Scottish... it's crap!

dunkman · August 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

dude ...lighten up ...it's a body of water...your'e going to bust a fucking vein in your forehead...

and you can fuck off to The Paso... turn right at Lost Angels

onelongsong · August 2007

mookie9999 wrote:

That's right. None of your "experts" have been lying or proven wrong yet. Oh wait, they have. Just because it comes off of the lips of someone who disagrees with your intent does not equate to being a lie. Although I might just be loopy as I think I might have inhaled some chemtrails today.

and that's the whole thing in a nutshell. not one conspiracy nutter has produced one thread of credible evidence. if they ever do it'll be all over the media. so far they've only produced doctored pictures and wild accuzations.
if you want to challenge the experts; the burden of proof is on you and you need to come to the table with evidence. the experts did the work and proved what they believe happened. bring something credible and people may listen.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

JamMastaE wrote:

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http://www.aliendave.com/files/Photos/Chem/Spray_plane_150x.jpg

http://www.acurse.com/huntimages/Plane.jpg

http://www.stargods.org/FrontLinkChemtrail.jpg

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http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/images/auburnlogo/auburnmegasprayerMvc-833s.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/images/auburnlogo/auburnmegasprayerMvc-833s.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/auburn20024.htm&h=175&w=477&sz=7&hl=en&start=186&um=1&tbnid=bbS6DXH58YFWwM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPLANES%2BSPRAYING%2BCHEMTRAILS%26start%3D180%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

http://chembuster.us/images/louisvillechemtrails.jpg

yeah these looks like contrails,not!

http://www.mundodesconocido.com/webs/Chemtrails/60-img.jpg

http://djyandbi.canalblog.com/images/contrails.JPG

oh,i hate vanilla ice!

I'm just going to say I'm undecided still, but some of those pics are pretty fucked up looking...

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

and you can fuck off to The Paso... turn right at Lost Angels

Sure...right after you blow my bagpipes...lol

freedomboy · August 2007

The people responsible should be shot on sight.

It won't mean anything to the average citizen, what will mean something to them is what the government then does about it.

Nothing.

Pj_Gurl wrote:

What should happen to the persons responsible?

What will this mean to the people who for now, believe there was no conspiracy?

What will change for the people who died that day and for their families? ...

Byrnzie · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

and you can fuck off to The Paso... turn right at Lost Angels

That actually sounds better.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

Dunk...are you trying to wax my caber?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Caber_2.jpg

dunkman · August 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Dunk...are you trying to wax my caber?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Caber_2.jpg

exactly!!!... see thats not a pole... its a caber... now i feel like we're getting somewhere

dinnae greet Roland, wi aw ken yer a glaikit, crabbit, eejit o' a bawbag.

*watches as Roland googles all those words*

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

exactly!!!... see thats not a pole... its a caber... now i feel like we're getting somewhere

dinnae greet Roland, wi aw ken yer a glaikit, crabbit, eejit o' a bawbag.

*watches as Roland googles all those words*

What pipe you're smoking...smoke it...

I ain't googing shit...

69charger · August 2007

JamMastaE wrote:

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http://www.aliendave.com/files/Photos/Chem/Spray_plane_150x.jpg

http://www.acurse.com/huntimages/Plane.jpg

http://www.stargods.org/FrontLinkChemtrail.jpg

http://www.citizensforthetruth.com/images/chemtrails/chem02/spray%20plane%20plane%20tale%20not%20the%20engines.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.airapparent.ca/assets/discovery_exposed.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.airapparent.ca/&h=329&w=215&sz=16&hl=en&start=167&um=1&tbnid=lMx42Oq1tLOzEM:&tbnh=119&tbnw=78&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPLANES%2BSPRAYING%2BCHEMTRAILS%26start%3D162%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

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http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/images/auburnlogo/auburnmegasprayerMvc-833s.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/images/auburnlogo/auburnmegasprayerMvc-833s.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/chemtrails/auburn/auburn20024.htm&h=175&w=477&sz=7&hl=en&start=186&um=1&tbnid=bbS6DXH58YFWwM:&tbnh=47&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPLANES%2BSPRAYING%2BCHEMTRAILS%26start%3D180%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

http://chembuster.us/images/louisvillechemtrails.jpg

yeah these looks like contrails,not!

http://www.mundodesconocido.com/webs/Chemtrails/60-img.jpg

http://djyandbi.canalblog.com/images/contrails.JPG

oh,i hate vanilla ice!

Which of these pics is in question for you? They all look pretty normal to me. Some more dramatic than others, but all look very normal.

"If there was a problem yo I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it"

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

69charger wrote:

Which of these pics is in question for you? They all look pretty normal to me. Some more dramatic than others, but all look very normal.

"If there was a problem yo I'll solve it
Check out the hook while my DJ revolves it"

Everything except the wide eyed insane stuff and the suffer my gun barrel look...the hunting stuff doesn't phase me at all.

note:
(Vanilla Ice will shrink your penis)

dunkman · August 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

What pipe you're smoking...smoke it...

I ain't googing shit...

i dont know what i did to upset you but now you're just fucking me off... at least try and be humorous when trying to be all cool and dismissive... i've read funnier posts from Stephen Hawking on his "aren't big numbers interesting" thread.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · August 2007

dunkman wrote:

i dont know what i did to upset you but now you're just fucking me off... at least try and be humorous when trying to be all cool and dismissive... i've read funnier posts from Stephen Hawking on his "aren't big numbers interesting" thread.

exactly how I feel about it:

http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/gallery2/g2data/albums/011206/Lead1Face.jpg

lol...

spiral out · August 2007

onelongsong wrote:

9/11 put a lot of people in shock which effected them mentally. it's a shame those people have to hurt those who lost loved ones and make them relive that experience over and over.

Erm i don't think 9/11 put me in shock, sorry, but it just isn't so. So maybe get back to some other theory of why people don't belive the offical story.

In the very least your goverment allowed it to happen "the new pearl harbour". Not sure what expert proved that wasn't the case. Hell are you going to deny they wanted one now.

If the 9/11 Conspiracy theories are ever proven?

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