Fire brought down WTC 7

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

In a nutshell Israel (mossad) wanted America to know what it was like to live with terrorists.

So many big player dual citizens (Israel/US) in US politics many who have written about a catastrophic event which would be needed to steer America in a bold new direction as outlined in PNAC. they wanted a new pearl harbor was I believe the exact term.

The deeper you look it becomes quite clear that it's not a stretch of the imagination by any means to think something like this was devised to impose fear, and start global conflict based on an agenda.

We've alredy been lied to more than the human mind can comprehend, and there; s no sign of it letting up anytime soon.

And it's ALL based on 9/11. 9/11 was the seed to turn the world on it's ear and do whatever according to PNAC, and it all ties back into Israel, over and over again.

so whilst you find it difficult to believe that a building could fall in unison as a result of fires and that many specialists and scientists have come to this conclusion, i'm expected to believe that Israeli secret agents work in cohesion with the US to allow 3000 people to die just so the US could enter a war in Iraq about oil... see i'm kinda struggling with that... fact based scientific findings versus shadowy secret underworlds allowing 3000 of their own citizens to die in order to start a war... wouldnt it have been a fuckload easier just to have the US embassy somewhere bombed and then pin it on Saddam... far easier to do than somehow get Saudis to go through weeks of training, fly into a billion dollar buildings, kill 3000+ people, and ironically create a shitload of heat about conspiracies.

it just dont add up...

Jenga!!

LiteTheMatch wrote:

Pay attention to the tone of this article. "The Mystery is Solved" ( We can all relax now, the government has figured out how it all happend. Here, watch this, shut up. Here's American Gladiators. Here's 56 channels of it. Watch these pitutary retards smash their fucking skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom. Here, watch this, shut up.)


Oh yea, and by the way, another mystery has been solved. We can stop protesting the war because the news told us that "Iraq has weapons of mass destruction. Here are the images of where nuclear weapons are being made"

Clearly you're just crazy and spend all your spare time looking for things that just aren't there in between Bigfoot meet ups...

they found Bigfoot and closed the case on 9/11 all in a matter of days.,

it's really just absolutely incredible...

UFO's will be found soon is my guess...

Feds: Fires took down building next to twin towers

GAITHERSBURG, Md. - Federal investigators said Thursday they have solved a mystery of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks: the collapse of World Trade Center building 7, a source of long-running conspiracy theories.
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The 47-story trapezoid-shaped building sat north of the World Trade Center towers, across Vesey Street in lower Manhattan. On Sept. 11, it was set on fire by falling debris from the burning towers, but skeptics have long argued that fire and debris alone should not have brought down such a big steel-and-concrete structure.

Scientists with the National Institute of Standards and Technology say their three-year investigation of the collapse determined the demise of WTC 7 was actually the first time in the world a fire caused the total failure of a skyscraper.

"The reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," said Dr. Shyam Sunder, the lead investigator on the NIST team.

Investigators also concluded that the collapse of the nearby towers broke the city water main, leaving the sprinkler system in the bottom half of the building without water.

The building has been the subject of a wide range of conspiracy theories for the last seven years, partly because the collapse occurred about seven hours after the twin towers came down. That fueled suspicion that someone intentionally blew up the building in a controlled demolition.

Critics like Mike Berger of the group 9/11 Truth said he wasn't buying the government's explanation.

"Their explanation simply isn't sufficient. We're being lied to," he said, arguing that there is other evidence suggesting explosives were used on the building.

Sunder said his team investigated the possibility that an explosion inside the building brought it down, but found there was no large boom or other noise that would have occurred with such a detonation. Investigators also created a giant computer model of the collapse, based partly on news footage from CBS News, that they say shows internal column failure brought down the building.

Investigators also ruled out the possibility that the collapse was caused by fires from a substantial amount of diesel fuel that was stored in the building, most of it for generators for the city's emergency operations command center.

The 77-page report concluded that the fatal blow to the building came when the 13th floor collapsed, weakening a critical steel support column that led to catastrophic failure.

"When this critical column buckled due to lack of floor supports, it was the first domino in the chain," said Sunder.

The NIST investigators issued more than a dozen building recommendations as a result of their inquiry, most of which repeat earlier recommendations from their investigation into the collapse of the two large towers.

In both instances, investigators concluded that extreme heat caused some steel beams to lose strength, causing further failures throughout the buildings until the entire structure succumbed.

The recommendations include building skyscrapers with stronger connections and framing systems to resist the effects of thermal expansion, and structural systems designed to prevent damage to one part of a building from spreading to other parts.

A spokeswoman for the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, developer Larry Silverstein, praised the government's work.

"Hopefully this thorough report puts to rest the various 9/11 conspiracy theories, which dishonor the men and women who lost their lives on that terrible day," said Silverstein spokeswoman Dara McQuillen.

In discussing the findings, the investigator Sunder acknowledged that some may still not be convinced, but insisted the science behind their findings is "incredibly conclusive."

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

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Sucks for the CIA, FBI, and SEC though. They got the shit end of the fate stick i guess?

:cool:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center#Collapse

World Trade Center 7 housed SEC files relating to numerous Wall Street investigations, as well as other federal investigative files. All the files for approximately 3,000 to 4,000 SEC cases were destroyed. While some were backed up in other places, others were not, especially those classified as confidential.[49] Files relating Citigroup to the WorldCom scandal were lost.

spyguy wrote:

why do you keep mentioning the bigfoot shit? it was a couple of wackjobs making a claim who had nothing to do with the government ?

I'm with you on this one. I'm just DYING to hear the tie between the two. I guess Roland is going to claim those two nut jobs who put the whole Bigfoot hoax together are either Mossad agents or CIA