The U.S. has the biggest baddest military ever, fuck yeah!

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    mexico could easily invade arizona and texas. I like those states.

    your joking right. your advocating for having the worlds strongest military to prevent mexico from invading us?

    when you really think about it, the self defense thing loses weight quickly. considering no one is a threat to invade us, and their really is no good reason to invade us. just as no one has invaded the erupoean countries with minimal military.

    if we are the best country, then we lead by example. the current example we are setting is militarization and pre-emtpive war, littering the planet with weapons of unspeakable devastating power. we should be doing the exact opposite, leading this planet into a new era of awareness and progress.
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    my2hands wrote:
    your joking right. your advocating for having the worlds strongest military to prevent mexico from invading us?

    when you really think about it, the self defense thing loses weight quickly. considering no one is a threat to invade us, and their really is no good reason to invade us. just as no one has invaded the erupoean countries with minimal military.

    if we are the best country, then we lead by example. the current example we are setting is militarization and pre-emtpive war, littering the planet with weapons of unspeakable devastating power. we should be doing the exact opposite, leading this planet into a new era of awareness and progress.

    no one is a threat to invade us???? That's a joke, right?? Start dismantling the naval and air force which the US has put together and I'm sure that there will be plenty of countries lining up to try to create instability and fear in this country.... hell some are already trying even with all the military might we have.
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    When you look at the big wars its quite simple to see that its not armies that win wars, it's the people, bought in, quickly taught the necessary very simple skills by the regulars. No-one had or has the number of people in their army that was killed in WW2. It seems to me sizable professional armies serve only one purpose, the fear of not dominating, and to me this is as weak as it gets.

    I say with all seriousness, lets use our money to bring education and health to the World, and use charity to build funds for wars, then we will quickly see who supports war and how inevitable it is. Give us life, sell us war, not the other way around.

    If ever a war NEEDS fighting then there are plenty of strong people of courage who will step forward and give whatever it takes, money/life for that. I strongly doubt it would be the same people who salivate watching others blood spilled
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    chromiam wrote:
    no one is a threat to invade us???? That's a joke, right?? Start dismantling the naval and air force which the US has put together and I'm sure that there will be plenty of countries lining up to try to create instability and fear in this country.... hell some are already trying even with all the military might we have.

    Why would they invade? for natural resources? money? what would they be giving their life to obtain? the Simpsons? there is one reason why anybody hates america, and its certainly not jealousy, stop kidding yourself man, its sad.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    your joking right. your advocating for having the worlds strongest military to prevent mexico from invading us?
    i'm not advocating being the strongest. but I certainly would rather be the best, then average.
    my2hands wrote:
    when you really think about it, the self defense thing loses weight quickly. considering no one is a threat to invade us, and their really is no good reason to invade us. just as no one has invaded the erupoean countries with minimal military.
    mexico or canada isnt a threat to us because of our military strength. and since when does a country need a "good" reason to invade? remember the alamo ring a bell? I'm not saying mexico would invade us but without a defense system we would be vulnerable.
    my2hands wrote:
    if we are the best country, then we lead by example. the current example we are setting is militarization and pre-emtpive war, littering the planet with weapons of unspeakable devastating power. we should be doing the exact opposite, leading this planet into a new era of awareness and progress.
    I agree. but the world is a fucked up place. no matter how we lead, countries will always go to war with each other. I happen to like ron paul's approach with less foreign policy. although how much are we leading by example if we sit back and allow other countries destroy each other.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Specifics wrote:
    Why would they invade? for natural resources? money? what would they be giving their life to obtain? the Simpsons? there is one reason why anybody hates america, and its certainly not jealousy, stop kidding yourself man, its sad.
    countries dont invade each other because of jealousy. they do it for power and control. although many countries are jealous of us. why do so many people come here for the "american dream". not everyone hates america as much as you.
  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    jlew24asu wrote:
    countries dont invade each other because of jealousy. they do it for power and control. although many countries are jealous of us. why do so many people come here for the "american dream". not everyone hates america as much as you.

    People move all over the world, for the "fill in the blank dream". I know many more that move to New Zealand which has unbelievable natural beauty, a miniscule military, and no history whatsoever of invasion. I know many many more that move to Australia which is mostly a barren, arid, shit-hole (no offence sheila:p), Spain, France, i know many many many that come to Britain. Do i need to go on?

    Why would people be more jealous of america than a lot of other countries?
    and what power and control is to be gained from invading america?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Specifics wrote:
    People move all over the world, for the "fill in the blank dream". I know many more that move to New Zealand which has unbelievable natural beauty, a miniscule military, and no history whatsoever of invasion. I know many many more that move to Australia which is mostly a barren, arid, shit-hole (no offence sheila:p), Spain, France, i know many many many that come to Britain. Do i need to go on?
    no you dont. I'd love for you to shut the fuck up. but you're wrong, more people come to america for an oppurtunity then all the of countries you mentioned combined.
    Specifics wrote:
    Why would people be more jealous of america than a lot of other countries?
    because we are the richest most successful country in the world. I know you hate that fact, sorry tini wini.
    Specifics wrote:
    and what power and control is to be gained from invading america?
    mexico fought a war to control texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War.
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Try to imagine what this planet would look like if nobody had ever developed nuclear arms. In my opinion it would be a complete mess. The only reason the Cold War stayed cold was the threat of nuclear conflict. We'd probably be entering World War 4 right about now if it wasn't for nuclear weapons and the fear they inflict. For some reason most people have forgotten just how violent the first half of the 20th century was. You could argue that the last 60 years have been the most peaceful in human history. That's amazing when you think about what's taken place these last six decades. Shrinking natural resources, overpopulation and a long list of lunatic leaders. A large reason for this peace is the US military and the fear it's created around the world. I look at the first Gulf War as a perfect example of this. We basically destroyed an Iraqi military that was supposed to be formidable in about a week. Don't you think that other countries took notice of this? Of course they did. Us being the force we are has deterred more confilcts than most people realize. It's a shame the idiots in power have completely misused this power the last 5 years. Because if used properly our military is the greatest peace keeping force on the planet.
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no you dont. I'd love for you to shut the fuck up. but you're wrong, more people come to america for an oppurtunity then all the of countries you mentioned combined.

    because we are the richest most successful country in the world. I know you hate that fact, sorry tini wini.

    mexico fought a war to control texas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War.

    Oh dear man.
    No class, no sense, no balls.

    you respect this shit above any other because your hard-wired anthem filled head has clearly been way too easy to control. Many others like a sense of history and class in their surroundings and natural beauty. I'm positive you can find this in a fair part of america too. Where do most of the people you talk about emigrate from?

    Why did mexico want Texas?
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    why can't we even contain a small country like iraq then?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sweet adeline wrote:
    why can't we even contain a small country like iraq then?
    Iraq is not small. and our military is built for winning wars not building countries.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    sweet adeline wrote:
    why can't we even contain a small country like iraq then?


    The public wants a nice clean war. You should reduce the place to a parking lot. :)
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    even flow? wrote:
    The public wants a nice clean war. You should reduce the place to a parking lot. :)

    mission accomplished.
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    sweet adeline wrote:
    why can't we even contain a small country like iraq then?

    Because no military is capable of operating in the middle of a Civil War. Like I said, if used PROPERLY our military is a great asset. Don't blame the US military for fighting a war that can't be won. Blame the idiots who put them in that position.
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    jlew24asu wrote:
    Iraq is not small. and our military is built for winning wars not building countries.

    have we won the war then? what does that necessarily mean?
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    sweet adeline wrote:
    mission accomplished.


    Then you land on an aircraft carrier and declare the above statement. Not a moment too early followed by an ooops. ;)
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sweet adeline wrote:
    have we won the war then? what does that necessarily mean?
    won the war? at this point I dont know what mission of this war. was it to defeat saddam? then yes we won the war. is it to build a democracy in the middle east? then we failed miserably.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    won the war? at this point I dont know what mission of this war. was it to defeat saddam? then yes we won the war. is it to build a democracy in the middle east? then we failed miserably.


    Don't forget about not finding the WMD. That had some egg on some people's faces. Remember how Saddam had missile silos on the go in Canada and Mexico and the US's fate was almost in his hands. Yeah, those stories were sweet.
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  • Specifics
    Specifics Posts: 417
    even flow? wrote:
    Don't forget about not finding the WMD. That had some egg on some people's faces. Remember how Saddam had missile silos on the go in Canada and Mexico and the US's fate was almost in his hands. Yeah, those stories were sweet.

    What stories are them, dude(tte)? is that for real?

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