The 2008 Democratic ticket will be Obama/Edwards
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my2hands
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and they will be sworn in on 1-20-09 as the President and Vice-President of the U.S.A.
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware
... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...
Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware

Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
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my2hands wrote:and they will be sworn in on 1-20-09 as the President and Vice-President of the U.S.A.
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...
Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
if you're right about the ticket; we can look forward to another republican government for another 4 years. the democrats are not offering a candidate capable of beating a republican ticket.0 -
onelongsong wrote:if you're right about the ticket; we can look forward to another republican government for another 4 years. the democrats are not offering a candidate capable of beating a republican ticket.
The only Republican capable of winning the presidency will not even make it past the primaries, Rudy Guiliani. Both parties are offering nothing as far as candidates go, what a shocker."When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul0 -
While I do like the fact that the Democratic side looks more like America and is more diverse than the republicans, focusing on that diversity does more harm than good. And in all honesty, I can't find one thing about Hilary (in being a woman) that is different than any other male Washington insider that has ever ran for president.
Domestically, nothing really much will change if either side is elected, but as far as foreign policy, I an convinced that just about anyone from the democratic side will be a vast improvement over any republican at this point.My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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my2hands wrote:this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware
... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...
If a leader is making intelligent decisions their skintone or sex doesn't matter. And if they're making poor decision their skintone and sex doesn't matter. And unless I've missed something I'm pretty sure that skintone and sex do not play a part in being a better or worse decision maker.
Isn't it kind of racist and sexist to think that the skintone or sex of a leader will make a difference?“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
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surferdude wrote:Isn't it kind of racist and sexist to think that the skintone or sex of a leader will make a difference?
yes of course that is racist... and i never said anything different... i am just pointing out that women and minorities are BREAKING through that racism and sexism to reach the highest levels of our government
pr perhaps you missed the last few hundred years? :rolleyes:0 -
my2hands wrote:yes of course that is racist... and i never said anything different... i am just pointing out that women and minorities are BREAKING through that racism and sexism to reach the highest levels of our government
pr perhaps you missed the last few hundred years? :rolleyes:“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley0 -
I wouldnt be suprised if it turns out to be an Edwards/Obama ticket. Can't see any dark horses on the democratic side.
I wouldnt be suprised if Huckabee replaces Romney and Giuliani as frontrunner. The religious freaks are falling in love with him. He's too much of a social conservative for me, but generally those issues arent that important to me and at least he seems somewhat intelligent with the economy and foreign affairs.0 -
MrSmith wrote:I wouldnt be suprised if it turns out to be an Edwards/Obama ticket. Can't see any dark horses on the democratic side.
I wouldnt be suprised if Huckabee replaces Romney and Giuliani as frontrunner. The religious freaks are falling in love with him. He's too much of a social conservative for me, but generally those issues arent that important to me and at least he seems somewhat intelligent with the economy and foreign affairs.
Yeah, I am pretty much opposites with Huckabee on all of the major issues, but I would actually be more comfortable with him as a President than Giuliani or Romney.My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln0 -
i would love to see Obama run against Ron Paul.
I think it would make for some of the strangest most honest debate you have ever seen.
I forsee Obama getting confused trying to pick out a debate strategy against Dr. Paul.
Would make for some great humor in the race,
and some great dialogue for the country since i get the feeling Obama is honest enough to confront Dr. Paul candidly on most of the issues.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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surferdude wrote:This is where I get confused. I've been taught that all people are equal. If that's true, why should I care that a representative is black, latino or female. Are you saying that people aren't equal? If so, what's the pecking order?
If a leader is making intelligent decisions their skintone or sex doesn't matter. And if they're making poor decision their skintone and sex doesn't matter. And unless I've missed something I'm pretty sure that skintone and sex do not play a part in being a better or worse decision maker.
Isn't it kind of racist and sexist to think that the skintone or sex of a leader will make a difference?
in a perfect world, this would hold true. but you are showing a certain naiveté if you think that image doesn't affect perception. that's not racism or sexism, it's common sense. if the person or persons representing a country look(s)more like the people making up the majority of that country, that's a powerful message, not only to the country itself but to the rest of the world as well."Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:i would love to see Obama run against Ron Paul.
I think it would make for some of the strangest most honest debate you have ever seen.
I forsee Obama getting confused trying to pick out a debate strategy against Dr. Paul.
Would make for some great humor in the race,
and some great dialogue for the country since i get the feeling Obama is honest enough to confront Dr. Paul candidly on most of the issues.
sweetie, the only thing Mr Paul will ever be president of is his own fan club. after ousting YOU, of course."Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/70 -
sweetpotato wrote:sweetie, the only thing Mr Paul will ever be president of is his own fan club. after ousting YOU, of course.
classic!0 -
sweetpotato wrote:sweetie, the only thing Mr Paul will ever be president of is his own fan club. after ousting YOU, of course.
if the polls aren't rigged, i think he has a very valid chance.
Rudy seems to have a lack of REAL support on the ground.
I have traveled through 4 states in the past 2 months on several occassions, and everytime i see Ron Paul signs ALL over town (i was just in Orlando, and RPaul signs are RAMPANT down there) ... on the flip side, signs for other candidates (in EITHER party) are 100% missing. NONE.
What does that say?
Is it 100% proof of anything?
No.
Does it indicate that Ron Paul may have more support than what other candidates truly possess when it comes to motivated voters\supporters at a local level?
I think it is a fair indication.
If Rudy and Romney have all these supporters, where are they!?!
Are they just quietly sitting at home, not donating $, not putting up signs, not joining meetup groups, not attending the rallies ... waiting to go to the polls, confident that their candidate will win the primaries, campaigning be damned?
What i mean is,
why are Ron Paul supporters so visible EVERYWHERE in action, but the other candidates support ONLY seems to come from campaign $ and mainstream media coverage received? And increasingly these candidates have SHRINKING contributions while Paul is about to break 10 million by months end with a huge surge on the 16th of Dec?
How many Giuliani or Romney bumper stickers have you seen?
I haven't seen ANY. Why not? Because he doesn't seem to really have any support localy. Corporations are forking over the $ but the people remain silent.
Last i checked coporations still cant vote, only people can! lol
So WHERE ARE THE OTHER CANDIDATES CONSTITUENTS?
Are they SO confident that they dont need to get out and stump?
I find that idea a bit far fetched.
did you SEE this video?
He isn't sounding so fringe anymore.
"more signs on the ground than any other candidate", "a real chance if he concentrates his efforts" ???
IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, the numbers are showing that roughly 500 BILLION in adjustable rate mortgages will reset ... foreclosures are expected to DOUBLE again in the next quarter. Things are getting REALY BAD for the average american, the blue collar worker, and the lower-middle class family.
As that happens, quotes like this from JEFFERSON will seem disturbingly relevant:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." -- Thomas Jefferson
and there is ONE candidate that understands that message, who can act on it, and who can bring that message to the people.
The prophecies and nightmares of our founding fathers are coming to pass, and the people will come around.
Once millions actualy DO WAKE UP HOMELESS, you will see the people seek REAL answers, answers involving tough questions, and answers that NO OTHER CANDIDATE is willing to offer.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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The problem is if Paul starts doing well the republican machine will go into action and crush him like they did with McCain in 2000.0
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MrSmith wrote:The problem is if Paul starts doing well the republican machine will go into action and crush him like they did with McCain in 2000.
This is 2008 my friend, not 2000.
The republican machine of today more resembles a junk yard jalopy than the skullcrushing Gravedigger of 2000.
The base has shrunk, is demoralized and at odds with the message most of its party is shouting.
You cant deceive a people who no longer are willing to be deceived.
Did you see some of the early debates where paul was still a fringe candidate? He would get a question about foreign policy and receive overwhelming applause and fervrent cheers from nearly the entire audience ...
that is a message that the MSM and the GOP will not be able to overcome.
TRUTH IS POWERFUL!If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?0 -
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im voting for hilary
I want bill back in the white house chasing the interns
plus they live in my town and it will help my property value!0 -
you know what is really sad is that McCain is no where to be seen. i like teh guyPeople demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
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my2hands wrote:and they will be sworn in on 1-20-09 as the President and Vice-President of the U.S.A.
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...
Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
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