The 2008 Democratic ticket will be Obama/Edwards
my2hands
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and they will be sworn in on 1-20-09 as the President and Vice-President of the U.S.A.
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware
... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...
Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
Write it down.
Gauranteed.
my2hands has made his official prediction :cool:
this is one exciting time in America... at least on the Democrat's side... a black man... a woman... a latino... a Senator from Delaware
... outspoken peace candidates that are ahead of their time...Of course the Republicans are coming to the party with the same old white men they usually come with... perhaps they dont realize that the majority of the country is either a woman or a minority... oh well, too bad for them and their 18th century agenda...
waddya folks think? either side?... and dont just say who you support... because the guy i am voting for has no chance it appears (Dennis Kucinich)
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if you're right about the ticket; we can look forward to another republican government for another 4 years. the democrats are not offering a candidate capable of beating a republican ticket.
The only Republican capable of winning the presidency will not even make it past the primaries, Rudy Guiliani. Both parties are offering nothing as far as candidates go, what a shocker.
Domestically, nothing really much will change if either side is elected, but as far as foreign policy, I an convinced that just about anyone from the democratic side will be a vast improvement over any republican at this point.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
If a leader is making intelligent decisions their skintone or sex doesn't matter. And if they're making poor decision their skintone and sex doesn't matter. And unless I've missed something I'm pretty sure that skintone and sex do not play a part in being a better or worse decision maker.
Isn't it kind of racist and sexist to think that the skintone or sex of a leader will make a difference?
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
yes of course that is racist... and i never said anything different... i am just pointing out that women and minorities are BREAKING through that racism and sexism to reach the highest levels of our government
pr perhaps you missed the last few hundred years? :rolleyes:
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I wouldnt be suprised if Huckabee replaces Romney and Giuliani as frontrunner. The religious freaks are falling in love with him. He's too much of a social conservative for me, but generally those issues arent that important to me and at least he seems somewhat intelligent with the economy and foreign affairs.
Yeah, I am pretty much opposites with Huckabee on all of the major issues, but I would actually be more comfortable with him as a President than Giuliani or Romney.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I think it would make for some of the strangest most honest debate you have ever seen.
I forsee Obama getting confused trying to pick out a debate strategy against Dr. Paul.
Would make for some great humor in the race,
and some great dialogue for the country since i get the feeling Obama is honest enough to confront Dr. Paul candidly on most of the issues.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
in a perfect world, this would hold true. but you are showing a certain naiveté if you think that image doesn't affect perception. that's not racism or sexism, it's common sense. if the person or persons representing a country look(s)more like the people making up the majority of that country, that's a powerful message, not only to the country itself but to the rest of the world as well.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
sweetie, the only thing Mr Paul will ever be president of is his own fan club. after ousting YOU, of course.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
classic!
if the polls aren't rigged, i think he has a very valid chance.
Rudy seems to have a lack of REAL support on the ground.
I have traveled through 4 states in the past 2 months on several occassions, and everytime i see Ron Paul signs ALL over town (i was just in Orlando, and RPaul signs are RAMPANT down there) ... on the flip side, signs for other candidates (in EITHER party) are 100% missing. NONE.
What does that say?
Is it 100% proof of anything?
No.
Does it indicate that Ron Paul may have more support than what other candidates truly possess when it comes to motivated voters\supporters at a local level?
I think it is a fair indication.
If Rudy and Romney have all these supporters, where are they!?!
Are they just quietly sitting at home, not donating $, not putting up signs, not joining meetup groups, not attending the rallies ... waiting to go to the polls, confident that their candidate will win the primaries, campaigning be damned?
What i mean is,
why are Ron Paul supporters so visible EVERYWHERE in action, but the other candidates support ONLY seems to come from campaign $ and mainstream media coverage received? And increasingly these candidates have SHRINKING contributions while Paul is about to break 10 million by months end with a huge surge on the 16th of Dec?
How many Giuliani or Romney bumper stickers have you seen?
I haven't seen ANY. Why not? Because he doesn't seem to really have any support localy. Corporations are forking over the $ but the people remain silent.
Last i checked coporations still cant vote, only people can! lol
So WHERE ARE THE OTHER CANDIDATES CONSTITUENTS?
Are they SO confident that they dont need to get out and stump?
I find that idea a bit far fetched.
did you SEE this video?
He isn't sounding so fringe anymore.
"more signs on the ground than any other candidate", "a real chance if he concentrates his efforts" ???
IN THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, the numbers are showing that roughly 500 BILLION in adjustable rate mortgages will reset ... foreclosures are expected to DOUBLE again in the next quarter. Things are getting REALY BAD for the average american, the blue collar worker, and the lower-middle class family.
As that happens, quotes like this from JEFFERSON will seem disturbingly relevant:
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." -- Thomas Jefferson
and there is ONE candidate that understands that message, who can act on it, and who can bring that message to the people.
The prophecies and nightmares of our founding fathers are coming to pass, and the people will come around.
Once millions actualy DO WAKE UP HOMELESS, you will see the people seek REAL answers, answers involving tough questions, and answers that NO OTHER CANDIDATE is willing to offer.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
This is 2008 my friend, not 2000.
The republican machine of today more resembles a junk yard jalopy than the skullcrushing Gravedigger of 2000.
The base has shrunk, is demoralized and at odds with the message most of its party is shouting.
You cant deceive a people who no longer are willing to be deceived.
Did you see some of the early debates where paul was still a fringe candidate? He would get a question about foreign policy and receive overwhelming applause and fervrent cheers from nearly the entire audience ...
that is a message that the MSM and the GOP will not be able to overcome.
TRUTH IS POWERFUL!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I want bill back in the white house chasing the interns
plus they live in my town and it will help my property value!
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
:eek:
Will Obama be obligated to provide Oprah with a cabinet post?
I would love a Obama/Mark Warner ticket. That's a winning combo there, but that won't happen.
Drifting, as much as I'd like to think that Paul had a chance on the Republican side there isn't any. His supporters are really passionate which is why you see the signs, but amongst the base of the Republican side of things he's a no name. Sadly, people vote on names and not issues.
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why the face?
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Do you mean 2000 "Maverick" John McCain or 2004-08 "Sell Your Soul to Bush" McCain?
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the Maverick of 2000 version. i don't know what happen to him.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Why would you care if he is nowhere to be found if he is nothing like he was in 2000 when you liked him.
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although, if by some strange reason ron paul was to actually outsmart the vote-riggers somehow and win the presidency, i'd imagine he'd be taken out the second he moves to abolish the federal reserve. history tells us that presidents who cross the international bankers seem to attract assassins: jackson, lincoln, garfield, kennedy.. how dare the president of the u.s. keep private banks from controlling our money supply!
Okay, you don't like any mainstream candidates, that's very indie of you. I don't think though that if ANY of the mainstreamers win that "we're in deep trouble".
I agree w/ a lot of what Ron Paul says, but how anyone on the left can support him w/ his gun control policy is a mind fuck to me.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
First I've heard of that. That would be an amazing endorsement for the Obama camp.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
What is 'the left's obsession with gun control.
Are there realy people out there so misguided as to think "the right of THE PEOPLE to bear arms" is a "collective" right and not a INDIVIDUAL right?
And don't give me this crap about a militia.
Just because you throw out the bath water doesnt mean you throw out the baby too.
We are supposed to have
a. no standing armies in times of peace
b. STATE militias, not a federal army
therefore, given that NEITHER of those holds true no more (regardless of the fact that the constitution insists that they should), we ABOSLUTELY need INDIVIDUAL gun ownership rights ...
In the absense of STATE run militias ... armies run by, in the best interest of, and held accountable ONLY to the state and its people (but run under resriction of the constitution) .. in the ABSENSE of such protection of peoples rights, individual gun ownership becomes even MORE important.
In case some folks missed the message of our founding fathers, it was DO NOT TRUST YOUR GOVERNMENT.
Trust only in your individual rights and duties, and lay claim to them by WHATEVER means necessary.
Be that dumping tea in a harbor, or offing some redcoat as he rides through your town ... but be not afraid of confrontation and armed revolt ... and NEVER surrender your INALIENABLE rights!
CERTAINLY not to the fucking federal government.
So again,
who are these people on the left that believe such things?
The products of a federaly regulated educational authority?
If I opened it now would you not understand?