what year will liberals stop being afraid of conservatives???

El_Kabong
El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
seriously, i keep hearing the same shit i did on '04 about how we have to vote for whoever the democrat is b/c we just can't afford to have whoever the conservative is win (tho in '04 they all said we would be free to vote for whomever we wanted in '08). so, why do you think you won't be so scared in 2012 of the conservative nominee??
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someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Obama wins the next election, runs the country like a typical Democrat, people begin to realize that the fact he is half-black does not translate into Hancock-style super powers to effect change, and then its back to square one ... The conservative phobia won't dissipate, though.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Obama wins the next election, runs the country like a typical Democrat, people begin to realize that the fact he is half-black does not translate into Hancock-style super powers to effect change, and then its back to square one ... The conservative phobia won't dissipate, though.
    agreed.

    though I wouldn't be surprised if McCain wins this election.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    _outlaw wrote:
    agreed.

    though I wouldn't be surprised if McCain wins this election.

    Yeah,
    especially after that "incident" Arianna Huffington was talking about the other day on CNN.

    Anderson Cooper asked her about Obama vs. McCain, and she said at the end of the day it would boil down to national security concerns. That there would be an event ... not necessarily in America, but somewhere in the world ... that would remind the public of national security.

    No shit, huh?

    I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket,
    but something around the DNC is looking promising.

    If not, we still have that alleged Israeli nuclear device plot that Carnaby was chasing.

    Hmm.
    :(
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Yeah,
    especially after that "incident" Arianna Huffington was talking about the other day on CNN.

    Anderson Cooper asked her about Obama vs. McCain, and she said at the end of the day it would boil down to national security concerns. That there would be an event ... not necessarily in America, but somewhere in the world ... that would remind the public of national security.
    exactly!!

    War with Iran?

    It could be anything, but something is totally going to happen in the next few months.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Getting sidetracked a bit, I suppose, but I just can't see McCain winning. There are a lot of people with huge concerns about Obama, and rightly so, but at the end of the day, I see him as Kennedy to McCain's Nixon -- or, at the very least, Clinton to McCain's Dole.

    Elections in this country are still driven primarily by personality. Obama seems "nice" and "smart" and "cool" and "hip" -- and those qualities tend to win out over "old curmudgeon who reminds you of the guy who used to chase you off his lawn when you were a kid."

    A shitty economy never, ever works in favor of the incumbent party, either.

    I do agree, though, that some sort of national security event would tilt the scales to McCain's favor in a hurry.

    As it stands, I see Obama winning the election, spending four years reminding everyone what they disliked about the Democrats and then the Republicans will be back in the White House in four years, when they've found a *real* candidate.

    And that might be what's best for the country anyway. Or maybe that's just my silly pipe dream.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    slightofjeff wrote:
    And that might be what's best for the country anyway.
    What is best for this country will never happen.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    _outlaw wrote:
    What is best for this country will never happen.

    Touche.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    slightofjeff wrote:
    As it stands, I see Obama winning the election, spending four years reminding everyone what they disliked about the Democrats and then the Republicans will be back in the White House in four years, when they've found a *real* candidate.

    And that might be what's best for the country anyway. Or maybe that's just my silly pipe dream.

    I still think a Democratic president with a fiscally responsible (one can dream, right?) republican congress is the best combination for our country.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I still think a Democratic president with a fiscally responsible (one can dream, right?) republican congress is the best combination for our country.

    I guess it would depend who that president was. I don't think Obama is it. Seems a tad too naive to me.
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Touche.
    ahh! I don't think you're using that right!

    ;)
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  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    What I don't get is that the Republicans hated the Clinton years which were the most prosperous for every single person in my standard Middle Class family.

    I think they hated that he was so successful as a leader and pretended that they hated him for getting some ass in the office.

    For gosh sakes my dad was without a job for almost the entire second term of Bush's presidency. Thank the lord he finally got another one.

    That's why we are welcoming another 8 years of a democrat in the Oval Office...hopefully.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    slightofjeff wrote:

    Elections in this country are still driven primarily by personality. Obama seems "nice" and "smart" and "cool" and "hip" -- and those qualities tend to win out over "old curmudgeon who reminds you of the guy who used to chase you off his lawn when you were a kid."

    Hey! We've got Matt Gonzalez!! What more could you ask for?

    :)
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Hey! We've got Matt Gonzalez!! What more could you ask for?

    :)

    Matt Gonzalez? Does he pitch for the Braves? ;)
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    ahh! I don't think you're using that right!

    ;)

    Double touche.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Matt Gonzalez? Does he pitch for the Braves? ;)

    That would be a pretty cool bonus! I grew up loving the Braves! :D
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Its Evolution Baby wrote:
    What I don't get is that the Republicans hated the Clinton years which were the most prosperous for every single person in my standard Middle Class family. .

    I think most of us realize that the economy is cyclical, and has very little to do with the man in the Oval Office. But if it did ... people tend to forget that we were headed toward a recession at the tail end of the Clinton administration which (remarkably) didn't hit full bore until like seven years later -- and this despite the economic disaster that was 9/11.

    If we're going to do the "were you better off eight years ago" thing ... the answer for everyone in MY standard middle class family would be no. We're better off now. Every single one of us.

    But I do know this: We are all hanging on to our stimulus checks, just in case Barack decides we're all "The Rich" and asks for it back ;)
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Hey! We've got Matt Gonzalez!! What more could you ask for?

    :)

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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    That would be a pretty cool bonus! I grew up loving the Braves! :D

    I think he's a lefty :)
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    VictoryGin wrote:
    a chance


    then give them one :)
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I think he's a lefty :)

    :D
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